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#102 ·
dr/owned said:
He's not wrong though. Cascade Lake is basically high core count Kaby Lake. You should easily see a 50% FPS uplift by moving to a current gen CPU. Even at 4K

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The 10980XE core would be comparable to something around Ryzen 2000 series which is the bottom of the charts. And these charts aren't showing 99th percentile FPS which would be even worse the further back you go in CPU generations. If you were at a 10850K or something it'd probably not make a huge difference at 4K but even that is 2 generations newer than Kaby Lake.

TLDR: I'd seriously be looking to spend half as much upgrading cpu/mobo/ram before dumping $2k on a faster gpu.
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7980xe with tuned 4000c15 ddr4 is pushing 220-240fps in Battlefield 2042. WAY faster than old Ryzen 2k
 
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Someone did some pixel counting on the graphs

50 vs 40 Series - Nvidia Benchmark exact numbers : r/nvidia

Those numbers are really weird to me. 5090 is the only one with major spec increase vs predecessor and yet it gains the least of all models in Far Cry and Plague Tale? 5070 with almost no spec increase over 4070 has bigger gain? How?

Maybe that 2-slot cooler on 5090 really is meant to hit thermal limit and then throttle to something stupid like 2400-2500 MHz. This card should have the most gain of all, not the least. We will see once board partner cards drop I guess.

Also interesting what the power limit situation is going to be due to single connector on all cards. Guess 675W is going to be max.
 
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#106 ·
Krzych04650 said:
Someone did some pixel counting on the graphs

50 vs 40 Series - Nvidia Benchmark exact numbers : r/nvidia

Those numbers are really weird to me. 5090 is the only one with major spec increase vs predecessor and yet it gains the least of all models in Far Cry and Plague Tale? 5070 with almost no spec increase over 4070 has bigger gain? How?

Maybe that 2-slot cooler on 5090 really is meant to hit thermal limit and then throttle to something stupid like 2400-2500 MHz. This card should have the most gain of all, not the least. We will see once board partner cards drop I guess.

Also interesting what the power limit situation is going to be due to single connector on all cards. Guess 675W is going to be max.
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Its interesting because 4090 was very memory bound considering it has same memory bw as 3090 Ti. Going 512-bit + G7 should have given it linear scaling. Now what I find interesting is how other GPUs with very little SM increase get the perf number.
 
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#107 ·
zhrooms said:
The performance increase with DLSS 4 is unreal!

This is going to be the worst-selling flagship card, no doubt about it, because few need this much power, especially with them hiking the price by $400. The 5080, at just $1000—literally half the price—sounds so much more appealing. However, I might be one of the few who actually need it, as I'm upgrading from a 34" 21:9 1440p monitor to the new 39" 21:9 4K later this year when they're released, which is about 40% more pixels than 4K 16:9. Driving that resolution with ray tracing, even with DLSS, will definitely struggle in some games. But really, do I need to play ray-traced single-player games at 240 FPS? 120 FPS is already plenty smooth; a 5080 should manage that, but with a 5090, you'd be absolutely sure there'd be no hiccups.
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I hope you’re right. I’m worried it’ll be more in demand than the 4090. It came in at a lower price than expected. Along with a claimed +100% performance jump for RT/PT. And all of this is with reduced clock speeds due to the higher power draw. Meaning potentially good OC headroom.

Definitely going to need to go with an Optimus block for this one. Assuming I’ll even be able to get my hands on a card at launch.

One question I have is whether the memory on it is the same as the 5080/5070 but just downclocked. In terms of how much potential room for overclocking there will be. Possibly could hit 2TBps.
 
#108 ·
HyperMatrix said:
I hope you’re right. I’m worried it’ll be more in demand than the 4090. It came in at a lower price than expected. Along with a claimed +100% performance jump for RT/PT. And all of this is with reduced clock speeds due to the higher power draw. Meaning potentially good OC headroom.

Definitely going to need to go with an Optimus block for this one. Assuming I’ll even be able to get my hands on a card at launch.

One question I have is whether the memory on it is the same as the 5080/5070 but just downclocked. In terms of how much potential room for overclocking there will be. Possibly could hit 2TBps.
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Even if Nvidia increased PT or RT core perf by 2x it is not going to be 2x faster in RT/PT games. 2x RT means a part of RT calculations (what ever they doubled) will run faster. Let say that took 2ms, now takes 1ms but the rest is just 30% faster so 14ms > 10ms so the decrease from 16ms to 11ms so instead of 30% faster its 40% faster in RT enabled game.
 
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#109 ·
ZealotKi11er said:
Even if Nvidia increased PT or RT core perf by 2x it is not going to be 2x faster in RT/PT games. 2x RT means a part of RT calculations (what ever they doubled) will run faster. Let say that took 2ms, now takes 1ms but the rest is just 30% faster so 14ms > 10ms so the decrease from 16ms to 11ms so instead of 30% faster its 40% faster in RT enabled game.
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In theory they also claimed +50% shaders and also got rid of the big memory choke the 4090 had. Along with larger cache. So I’d (maybe foolishly?) expect roughly 2x performance in CP2077 PT mode if unconstrained by power/heat. And that’s without getting into the multi frame gen stuff.

I think the biggest limiting factor on this card is literally the power limit/heat. Drop an unlocked bios on it and wrap it in a block and she’ll sing.
 
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HyperMatrix said:
I hope you’re right. I’m worried it’ll be more in demand than the 4090. It came in at a lower price than expected. Along with a claimed +100% performance jump for RT/PT. And all of this is with reduced clock speeds due to the higher power draw. Meaning potentially good OC headroom.
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I think it's going to be more a supply issue than a demand issue. We're the table scraps when they get bored selling to hyperscalers making billion dollar purchase orders. Like the 285K "selling out" when it only sold a few hundred.
 
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#111 ·
How does one get FE card in Canada? I dont want to get these stupid 4 slot coolers.
 
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ZealotKi11er said:
Even if Nvidia beefed up the PT or RT core power by 2x, it wouldn't make RT/PT games go vroom-vroom twice as fast. Doubling RT means they just turbo-charged a teeny part of the RT math (whatever part they doubled). Imagine that bit was chugging along for 2ms, now it's like, 'Whee!' at 1ms, but the rest of the game is only jogging 30% faster, from 14ms to 10ms. So, instead of shaving off to 8ms for a mega 50% speed-up, you're just cutting down to 11ms, which is like, only a 40% zoom in your RT game. Not exactly the speed of light, huh?
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#113 ·
Waiting to know which card is the quietest. I went with the quietest 4090 and I couldn't be happier
 
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HyperMatrix said:
I hope you’re right. I’m worried it’ll be more in demand than the 4090. It came in at a lower price than expected. Along with a claimed +100% performance jump for RT/PT. And all of this is with reduced clock speeds due to the higher power draw. Meaning potentially good OC headroom.

Definitely going to need to go with an Optimus block for this one. Assuming I’ll even be able to get my hands on a card at launch.

One question I have is whether the memory on it is the same as the 5080/5070 but just downclocked. In terms of how much potential room for overclocking there will be. Possibly could hit 2TBps.
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The notion that RT/PT is 2x as fast as the 4090 makes no sense at all when looking at this chart where they obviously are cheating again with more inserted frames. The increase would actually be much higher for the PT games if that were true.

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#117 ·
GiacomaPredatore said:
Looks like the raw performance uplift is terrible. It's all about AI DLSS nonsense for the 5K series.
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Raster performance is really bad.

The boost clock is holding the card down. I think it´s done on purpose for either heat or planing a future update and charge more.

I dont know why everybody is so happy with the price as well. Like if many people are getting the cards at MRSP ;)
 
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Menko22 said:
Raster performance is really bad.

The boost clock is holding the card down. I think it´s done on purpose for either heat or planing a future update and charge more.

I dont know why everybody is so happy with the price as well. Like if many people are getting the cards at MRSP ;)
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I would expect more performance uplift with the price increase.

yoadknux said:
Why total trash? Are you not using dlss?
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Never, it looks terrible.
DLSS 4 looks to be an improvement, but upscaling and frame generation do not interest me.
 
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