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5mall5nail5 said:
Anyone experience driver crashes? I have an XFX Mercury OC 9070 XT and just in desktop use, the UI will start to chunk up, hesitating a bit, then worse, then worse, then it'll just crash and reboot. I am testing with a negative max boost offset for now though not sure why that'd help in desktop use.
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Check your driver version. M$ is forcing a driver "update" to a pre-release version.

Has been super stable for me unless I push any of the settings too far.

Too little voltage; problems.
Too much frequency offset, positive or negative; problems.
VRAM OC much too high; problems.
 
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barium56 said:
Good luck, I probably will bite the bullet and replace the thermal pads and add some to the backplate... And ofc "repaste" with PTM7950, because that's sadly necessary with the cooler removal.
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Good info here on thermal putty/pads.

I'm about to order some Thermal Grizzly putty for my wife's laptop. Trying to get it to quiet down a bit.

I used TG PTM Sheet which worked great initially...but ended up worse than stock. Current theory is that stock heatsink doesn't provide enough force. This could be exacerbated by thick/stiff pads; those rubbery ones.

Want to swap the pads for putty and see if the PTM will work and stay that way.
 
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Roboyto said:
Check your driver version. M$ is forcing a driver "update" to a pre-release version.

Has been super stable for me unless I push any of the settings too far.

Too little voltage; problems.
Too much frequency offset, positive or negative; problems.
VRAM OC much too high; problems.
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Yeah it did the downgrade thing on me, I DDU'd and I am back to the latest. I ran Furmark but it only hits like 2500-2600 MHz Core. I just loaded BO6 and its hitting like 3.1+ GHz core. Trying to dial that back.
 
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5mall5nail5 said:
Yeah it did the downgrade thing on me, I DDU'd and I am back to the latest. I ran Furmark but it only hits like 2500-2600 MHz Core. I just loaded BO6 and its hitting like 3.1+ GHz core. Trying to dial that back.
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Haven't used Furmark for anything in a while personally.

I'd be more concerned with core clocks in benchmarks and games.
 
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Anyone replaced an XtX with 9070XT?
I'm interested in ZLUDA (SD) peformance.
 
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Roboyto said:

Good info here on thermal putty/pads.

I'm about to order some Thermal Grizzly putty for my wife's laptop. Trying to get it to quiet down a bit.

I used TG PTM Sheet which worked great initially...but ended up worse than stock. Current theory is that stock heatsink doesn't provide enough force. This could be exacerbated by thick/stiff pads; those rubbery ones.

Want to swap the pads for putty and see if the PTM will work and stay that way.
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Haha, I already got into this rabbit hole on my own and got to snarks domain. Thinking about ordering UPSIREN UTP-8 + shims, not sure yet, will prolly still think a while. A Sapphire RX9070XT Pulse disassembly with measurements of every pad would accelerate my decision, but I'll be a while till that happens.
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Roboyto said:
Haven't used Furmark for anything in a while personally.

I'd be more concerned with core clocks in benchmarks and games.
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Yeah so I set -350 MHz on an XTX Mercury OC and it was still hitting 3.1+ GHz in Warzone, then choppy play starts, then my mouse curse looks like a scrambled square, and then it crashes.
 
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barium56 said:
Haha, I already got into this rabbit hole on my own and got to snarks domain. Thinking about ordering UPSIREN UTP-8 + shims, not sure yet, will prolly still think a while. A Sapphire RX9070XT Pulse disassembly with measurements of every pad would accelerate my decision, but I'll be a while till that happens. View attachment 2701127
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Back in the day Fujipoly Ultra Extreme was as good as it got. Things have become more interesting since then :LOL:
 
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5mall5nail5 said:
Yeah so I set -350 MHz on an XTX Mercury OC and it was still hitting 3.1+ GHz in Warzone, then choppy play starts, then my mouse curse looks like a scrambled square, and then it crashes.
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How'd you end up at -350? You try lower values first? Are other settings altered?

Tuning can be a very long, tedious, sometimes boring, process. I've got 100+ screen shots from HWInfo and 3DMark runs over the last 2.5 days.

It took a while, but I've got a really good idea of where I can push all the settings and still maintain stability.
 
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Roboyto said:
How'd you end up at -350? You try lower values first? Are other settings altered?

Tuning can be a very long, tedious, sometimes boring, process. I've got 100+ screen shots from HWInfo and 3DMark runs over the last 2.5 days.

It took a while, but I've got a really good idea of where I can push all the settings and still maintain stability.
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Bro I am not tuning - I am trying to get my GPU to not crash.

I wiped my system its a 285K on Z890 Apex, defaulted BIOS 100% (6400 M/Ts RAM, etc.) and installed the GPU. Reinstalled Windows 11 fresh. Downloaded Adrenaline and installed with network cable unplugged so as to not get Windows Update nonsense. Put all chipset/system drivers in. I was able to play an entire Warzone match (and win!) - but since, it will be hit or miss as to whether or not it'll start to get chunky FPS/dragging windows around the desktop. Adrenaline will report the driver stopped, I click OK on the pop up and the system hard boots.
 
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Discussion starter · #271 ·
5mall5nail5 said:
Yeah so I set -350 MHz on an XTX Mercury OC and it was still hitting 3.1+ GHz in Warzone, then choppy play starts, then my mouse curse looks like a scrambled square, and then it crashes.
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Not psychic unfortunately...bro...so I can only ask questions and make suggestions off of what information I have. All I had to go by was what you posted about -350MHz.

If everything is stock, fresh windows, fresh drivers, fresh chipset, etc.

I'd shut down, pull the card and re-seat it in the slot.

My bro did a BIOS update for his AM4 board, and that helped with benchmark scores. Maybe there's a BIOS update.

As I said before, I haven't had issues outside of pushing the limits of the card.
 
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@5mall5nail5

You don't need to unplug network. There are other ways to stop driver update from happening, but DDU also allows you to set it very easily.

It will have differing text, as my setup it is already disabled.

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I did upsiren UTP8 on a 7900 = identical results to stock pads in the end, 85-90*C VRAM.
Waste of time considering how fiddly and cumbersome the UTP8 is to apply, it's not really sticking to the chip or cooler.
 
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LtMatt said:
The Aorus is using putty on the memory, so if you take it apart expect an increase in memory temps as i found by a few c.
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Could just reshape the factory putty as well so that it gets consistent coverage again.
 
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yt93900 said:
I did upsiren UTP8 on a 7900 = identical results to stock pads in the end, 85-90*C VRAM.
Waste of time considering how fiddly and cumbersome the UTP8 is to apply, it's not really sticking to the chip or cooler.
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That is certainly interesting... What exact model 7900?
 
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Anyone thinking their RX 9070 / RX 9070 XT under Memtest Vulkan is showing big deviation between runs due to thermals can check my ZIP of XTX runs today, organise files by time.

My XTX will pass Memtest Vulkan at 2714MHz for ~8hrs. So 2664MHz is definitely sound, my card has not been repasted/fresh pads in ~2 years.

GPU clock was not changed, the boost is just as AVFS is doing for load in use, power/temp headroom, etc.

First was a GPU UV / RAM OC / PL +15% run which nets ~35k in 3DM TS, this is not kamikaze setup either.

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Next was GPU UV / PL +15%, then PL +15%, then stock. The case air intake sensor gets some back draft air, so only meaningful at start, I have to do something about that.
 
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Roboyto said:
Not psychic unfortunately...bro...so I can only ask questions and make suggestions off of what information I have. All I had to go by was what you posted about -350MHz.

If everything is stock, fresh windows, fresh drivers, fresh chipset, etc.

I'd shut down, pull the card and re-seat it in the slot.

My bro did a BIOS update for his AM4 board, and that helped with benchmark scores. Maybe there's a BIOS update.

As I said before, I haven't had issues outside of pushing the limits of the card.
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Sorry I forgot to summarize the leading steps/status.

I just reseated everything - I pulled a 4090 Strix from this riser without issue, had been running a B580 in the riser without issue, and slotted the 9070 XT and while I was able to play one game of Warzone without issue it was flaky otherwise. I just went into BIOS and set the slot to 4.0 x16 and its seemingly stable and without issue - hitting over 3+ GHz on boost. Weird.


gupsterg said:
@5mall5nail5

You don't need to unplug network. There are other ways to stop driver update from happening, but DDU also allows you to set it very easily.

It will have differing text, as my setup it is already disabled.

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Thanks but there are other drivers I want to prevent getting from WU also - this is a brand new build so there are chipset/bluetooth things still getting layered in but appreciate it.
 
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