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#1,021 ·
Hello, been reading in the background but figured I'd make an account and add some numbers for the 9070 non-XT.

GPU / AIB / Model: 9070 Sapphire NITRO+
Stock TBP Power Limit: 240W (270W OC)
GPU Memory Temperature: 60-70 general use, 80 gaming
GPU Core to Hot Spot Delta: 1-5 general use, 20 gaming
Radeon Tuning Auto-OC Freq Offset: +102 MHz
ASIC % from HWInfo: N/A
SMU FW version from HWInfo: 0.104.63

Steel Nomad:
Stock: 6200
Auto OC: (+102MHz) 6400
Manual OC: 6900 (+10%, -100Mv, 2800 FT) - 82 Memory Temperature

GPU clocks can (and do) exceed the advertised 2700MHz when gaming at stock configuration, pushing above 3000MHz in a few games.
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I didn't use that 3rd party 12v on top of the box in the end. I bought it in case the Sapphire 12v was too rigid to bend.
 
Discussion starter · #1,022 ·
Newbie2009 said:
Anyone else notice in games rather than benchmarks, increasing the memory speeds reduces the GPU boost clock?
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I checked this a little ways back using memtest. Just a difference of ~5-7 watts going to SOC/VRAM impacts the core speed for my card quite drastically: https://www.overclock.net/posts/29438276/

If you pay attention to averages for core voltage/power and VRAM power, you can see differences pending on how hard the VRAM controller is loaded.

This is why you can end up with different offset voltages for different games/benches/etc.
 
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Discussion starter · #1,023 ·
Thanks for sharing.
ns0130 said:
GPU clocks can (and do) exceed the advertised 2700MHz when gaming at stock configuration, pushing above 3000MHz in a few games.
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I've seen my card boost over 3GHz at +10% power; only 242W for my card. Sustained clocks are ~2650-2800, which varies with the load on the card. More load to VRAM reduces core boosting.
 
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Discussion starter · #1,024 ·
dimkatsv said:
Now what would be neat to check, is "do LED's and fans impact clocks" because they also theoretically should count towards TBP.
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Just scored an open-box 9070 Nitro+ for €664 shipped.

Fans/shroud/LED strip are very easy to remove so, I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
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#1,025 ·
witcher_3 said:
Currys, UK has the top of the line 9070 xt for £750, free next day delivery. If someone is interested.

If you check all the Steel Nomad record scores, the gigabyte is most of the top 100 list.


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Giga XT Gaming OC at £570 was the deal, hopefully people get it, someone posted on HUKD. Sadly I missed it, had vouchers would have worked out £541.
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#1,026 ·
Roboyto said:
Fans/shroud/LED strip are very easy to remove so, I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
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Well, technically you can just disable LED's with Trixx. (Which i have done, i am glad that Sapphire Trix is portable by default, and installation only an option. Kudos to Sapphire!)

But fans are bit trickier. Won't GPU act up if there is no fan header detected?
 
#1,027 ·
No problem. :)
I've seen my card boost over 3GHz at +10% power; only 242W for my card. Sustained clocks are ~2650-2800, which varies with the load on the card.
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I see, so the 240W mark must be the tipping point for 3GHz when needed. My sustained clocks are about the same. I tested my VRAM at 2900MHz and managed to sustain 2700MHz on the GPU but overall performance reduced by over 10%. I'm not well-versed on these things so I couldn't tell you why but those were the numbers.
 
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Discussion starter · #1,029 · (Edited)
dimkatsv said:
But fans are bit trickier. Won't GPU act up if there is no fan header detected?
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Perhaps. I am going to find out...have 3 of these coming to rig up if it runs w/o them plugged in.

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Edit: Just thought of this. I have put a waterblock on many cards over the years, and I don't ever recall this being an issue.

Last card was 5700XT though. I was planning to do 6900XT Red Devil, but it never happened.
 
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Discussion starter · #1,030 · (Edited)
ns0130 said:
I tested my VRAM at 2900MHz
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The memory is ECC. When you push it too hard, and it starts doing error correction, it is trying to send data multiple times; at least I think that's how this works lol.

The card won't necessarily crash if the clock is too high, you will however see performance regression. I don't think I've seen anyone here with a card capable of much over 2800 on the VRAM. @nilssohn card seems pretty solid at a little over that mark.

If you take a look in the OP, there's some info and links to discussions we've already had about this phenomenon. You can use Vulkan MemTest to get a pretty solid idea of what maximum VRAM clocks would most likely be universally stable across all games/benches since it pushes the memory/controller to the brink.

Not all games/benches necessarily work it that hard, so, theoretically, you can further tune additionally for individual use cases if you so desired.
 
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#1,031 ·
Roboyto said:
The memory is ECC. When you push it too hard, and it starts doing error correction, it is trying to send data multiple times; at least I think that's how this works lol.

The card won't necessarily crash if the clock is too high, you will however see performance regression. I don't think I've seen anyone here with a card capable of much over 2800 on the VRAM. @nilssohn card seems pretty solid at a little over that mark.

If you take a look in the OP, there's some info and links to discussions we've already had about this phenomenon. You can use Vulkan MemTest to get a pretty solid idea of what maximum VRAM clocks would most likely be universally stable across all games/benches since it pushes the memory/controller to the brink.

Not all games/benches necessarily work it that hard, so, theoretically, you can further tune additionally for individual use cases if you so desired.
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I see, 2800MHz appears to be my limit also. I'll do further testing and share anything interesting that I come across. Thanks for the info!
 
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Roboyto said:
The memory is ECC.
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Are you sure? Obviously there has to be some kind of error correction – otherwise we would encounter at least driver crashes. But is it ECC? On GDDR6 consumer cards?

Roboyto said:
I don't think I've seen anyone here with a card capable of much over 2800 on the VRAM.
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Maybe ask @RedF ;)
 
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nilssohn said:
Are you sure?
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I stand corrected.

For consumer-grade graphics cards like the AMD Radeon RX 7000 and RX 9000 series, they typically do not use ECC (Error-Correcting Code) GDDR6 memory modules. The memory used in these consumer graphics cards is usually non-ECC GDDR6, which does not have built-in error correction.

Memory Subsystem and ECC in Consumer GPUs

  1. Non-ECC Memory: The majority of consumer-grade GPUs, including those from the RX 7000 and RX 9000 series, rely on non-ECC GDDR6 memory. This memory is optimized for performance and cost-efficiency, but it lacks the ability to automatically correct errors that might occur in the memory.
  2. Error Handling: While consumer GPUs don’t use ECC memory, some level of error detection and correction may occur at the software or hardware level in the GPU's memory controller. However, this doesn't provide the same level of robustness as true ECC memory, which can detect and correct single-bit errors or detect double-bit errors.
  3. ECC Memory in GPUs: ECC GDDR6 memory is typically found in professional-grade or workstation graphics cards, such as the NVIDIA Quadro or AMD Radeon Pro series. These cards are aimed at markets where data integrity is crucial, like scientific computing, financial simulations, or CAD work.
Why Not ECC in Consumer Cards?

  • Cost: ECC memory is more expensive, and it adds to the cost of production for the GPUs. Consumer-grade cards are designed to be cost-effective, focusing on high performance and mass-market appeal.
  • Target Audience: Consumer-grade GPUs are designed for gaming and general-purpose use, where occasional memory errors (if they occur) are less likely to result in significant issues. Professional and workstation markets, on the other hand, require high reliability and data integrity, making ECC memory more important.
Conclusion

The memory sub-system in AMD's RX 7000 and RX 9000 series cards does not use ECC GDDR6 memory. While some form of error detection may exist in the hardware, true ECC error correction is generally not part of the memory architecture in these consumer GPUs. ECC memory is typically reserved for professional or enterprise-level graphics solutions.
 
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#1,034 ·
Roboyto said:
Perhaps. I am going to find out...have 3 of these coming to rig up if it runs w/o them plugged in.

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Edit: Just thought of this. I have put a waterblock on many cards over the years, and I don't ever recall this being an issue.

Last card was 5700XT though. I was planning to do 6900XT Red Devil, but it never happened.
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No issue on my blocked 6800 XT Red Devil.
 
#1,035 ·
There is also On-die ECC for higher speed G6. Also you do not want ECC in gaming cards because its will kill performance.
 
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Discussion starter · #1,036 ·
M3TAl said:
No issue on my blocked 6800 XT Red Devil.
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I'm thinking it will be fine.

Should have the card here tomorrow, but Arctic fans won't be here until mon/tues.
 
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#1,038 ·
Question…. I did not realize that the gigabyte 9070xt comes with 3 pci connectors. I thought it had two and i bought a corsair rm750x power supply and it only has two pcie and two cpu outlets on psu. The cpu is a 13600kf so should i only plug one cpu power cable in and then use the remaining 3 slots for the gpu or can a guy not mix the slots on psu or it doesnt matter? Ive never ran into this before lol
 
#1,039 ·
Just buy another Corsair CP-8920143 and connect it to one of the 6pin outlets on the right.

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Seeing that you also have 12v-2x6 I wonder if you could not use a CP-8920284 cable to connect the GPU.

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The cable is even included.
 
Discussion starter · #1,040 ·
9070 Nitro is here. She thiccc compared to the Reaper 😅.

Speed Way stock run and then straight to a quick/dirty @ -100mV / 2800 FT / +10%

Stock: 5820
Tune: 6301

That ~80 points higher than my best run with the Reaper. Shows promise already. I was thinking it may have been returned due to poor OC-ability, but maybe not.

Much more testing to do.
 
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