Video card has 24+1 and 24+5 dvi, difference?

micro5797 · May 27, 2014

Every video card that i have had in the past has had the dvi 24+5 pin configuration.
My soon to be (in the mail) video card has two dvi, one with the 24 +5 and the other with only the 24+1 flat pin.

Q1.
What is the difference between these two dvi and why not just have 2 dvi with 24+5?

Gtx 650 ti 2gb
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-3651-KR

If you look at the picture of the back of the card, you will see the pin configuration. The off one is the top one marked #2.

This is also my first card with an Hdmi out, does the audio have something to do with the pin configuration?
Meaning that if i used an adapter from Dvi to Hdmi.

Q2.
I assume that this card will come with its own audio and that i will not have to run a cable from the mobo to the card as with my current Gtx 260?

Q3.
Is it worth me keeping the Gtx 260 to use as a physx card? I don't have the sli bridge on the Gtx 650, nor did i plan on using sli. I will be getting the new borderlands, but for the most part, i don't play a lot of physx games, so far.
Edit: After thinking about it, the 260 has under 200 Cuda cores and the 650 has over 700. I assume the one card would be best, unless someone has a better understanding of this.

I am on a tight budget and upgrading from a gtx 260 (dx10). I got this for $85 or i would have gone with a newer card. I also wanted nvidia as i work with Photoshop and wanted the cuda cores.

XanderTheGoober · May 27, 2014

the one with the plus 5 is able to be adapted to vga, the one with just the 1 cannot.

edit: as for your audio question the hdmi will be able to provide audio no problem, however I have never heard of anyone running audio through dvi, nor do i know if it would even work. if you need audio through your graphics card hdmi cable only would be what i would do, without any adapting to or from dvi.

legoman786 · May 27, 2014

I used to run HDMI through a passive DVI-HDMI adapter. Worked without issues.

XanderTheGoober · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by legoman786

I used to run HDMI through a passive DVI-HDMI adapter. Worked without issues.

Did it work for audio?

Dyson Poindexter · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober

the one with the plus 5 is able to be adapted to vga, the one with just the 1 cannot.

edit: as for your audio question the hdmi will be able to provide audio no problem, however I have never heard of anyone running audio through dvi, nor do i know if it would even work. if you need audio through your graphics card hdmi cable only would be what i would do, without any adapting to or from dvi.

All AMD cards since the 3870 have have a 7.1 channel sound card built in, solely for HDMI audio. Indeed, most are able to output the HDMI audio extensions over the DVI port.

legoman786 · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober

Did it work for audio?

Yes, it did. Had Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, and internal streaming right to the TV.

XanderTheGoober · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by micro5797

Q3.
Is it worth me keeping the Gtx 260 to use as a physx card? I don't have the sli bridge on the Gtx 650, nor did i plan on using sli. I will be getting the new borderlands, but for the most part, i don't play a lot of physx games, so far.
Edit: After thinking about it, the 260 has under 200 Cuda cores and the 650 has over 700. I assume the one card would be best, unless someone has a better understanding of this.

I am on a tight budget and upgrading from a gtx 260 (dx10). I got this for $85 or i would have gone with a newer card. I also wanted nvidia as i work with Photoshop and wanted the cuda cores.

I would try it out using the 260 dedicated to physx, in my opinion you would be better off running just the 650 because typically the 650 and above are plenty sufficient at handling the physx and gaming, but the lowest card i have is a 650ti. Borderlands 2 is awesome with physx so it might be worth a try with the dedicated phys card to see if it makes a difference.

JTHMfreak · May 27, 2014

In terms of keeping the 260 just as a physx card, I would say no. I tried using my old 275 as dedicated physx, and from what I saw was no help in the matter, but this was my own personal exp, also I was pairing the 275 with SLI 670s

XanderTheGoober · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by legoman786

Yes, it did. Had Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, and internal streaming right to the TV.

very nice, i have never had the need for audio through hdmi or dvi. i run either vga or hdmi to my projector and then standard 3.5mm audio jack to my 400W stereo.
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Originally Posted by JTHMfreak

In terms of keeping the 260 just as a physx card, I would say no. I tried using my old 275 as dedicated physx, and from what I saw was no help in the matter, but this was my own personal exp, also I was pairing the 275 with SLI 670s

kinda what i was thinking but as i said i never tested a dedicated card for just physx. glad you commented to answer my unasked question.

Just to reiterate my answers to questions in the original post.
Q1: They have one of each for better compatability with older monitors and i do believe there is more functionality of the dvi-d connector for newer displays, I cannot come up with any specific examples at this time. Someone else feel free to add on to this.
Q2: no you will not need to run any other cables other than the power cable, if it needs one, with the graphics card installed.
Q3: I would have to agree with JTHMfreak about this one, the 650 is probably better off solo. any difference with using the 260 as a dedicated card is probably going to be minuscule and not worth the extra power consumption or space the extra card will be taking up.

JTHMfreak · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober

very nice, i have never had the need for audio through hdmi or dvi. i run either vga or hdmi to my projector and then standard 3.5mm audio jack to my 400W stereo.
kinda what i was thinking but as i said i never tested a dedicated card for just physx. glad you commented to answer my unasked question.

Well, the benchmark I used showed little to no improvement, it was a metro 2033 bench, I could see the 275 having an effect, but from what I recall it was either small or negligable, plus I had to sandwich my 3 cards together which meant less airflow. But for a two card setup I would definitely give it a test.
People on here have said that you would want to have a newer card for physx, that the 2XX series would actually hurt more than help, but if you already have the card, then why not?

XanderTheGoober · May 27, 2014

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Originally Posted by JTHMfreak

Well, the benchmark I used showed little to no improvement, it was a metro 2033 bench, I could see the 275 having an effect, but from what I recall it was either small or negligable, plus I had to sandwich my 3 cards together which meant less airflow. But for a two card setup I would definitely give it a test.
People on here have said that you would want to have a newer card for physx, that the 2XX series would actually hurt more than help, but if you already have the card, then why not?

yeah i noticed no difference using a 650ti for physx while using a 680 lightning for the rest of the demands of the game, testing with Borderlands 2

XanderTheGoober · May 28, 2014

micro5797, have your questions been answered?

micro5797 · May 28, 2014

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Originally Posted by XanderTheGoober

micro5797, have your questions been answered?

Yes they have. Sorry i got home late so i did not reply last night.

Now i know what to expect and will have my cables ready to run to my tv and my monitor from my pc.

XanderTheGoober · May 28, 2014

Good to hear. Good luck!

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