Do to the larger cache on the 5800x3D faster memory doesn't make as big of a difference. And it wont really be able take advantage of 4000+ Mhz sticks. 3600mhz CL14 is basically the max those chips can do. But i don't think it is really worth the investment. I think putting the money towards a newer AM5 platform like a 7800X3D/9800X3D would be a better option if you are looking to improve performance.

I would try tweaking the ram you already got. You might be able to get 3400/3600 out of them.

 

Thanks! Appreciate the intel.

I've been thinking AM5 as well, just dreading a rebuild... might try to buy a pre-built minus the GPU!

 

I got both systems right now: overclocked 5800x3d and 9800x3d. Can run benchmarks (benchmate?) if you want.
5800x3d/4090 doing pretty well though: I scored 31 467 in Time Spy that's 3750/C14 memory (from 3600/C16 B-Die)

 

I have yet to do comprehensive testing on the subject. But I have recently switched my memory out. I was running 4x8GB 3600cl18 Samsung C-die. I upgraded to what I guess you could call a mid tier B-Die (3200 CL14 1.35V) Acer Predator Vesta.

These are tests I did on Thursday night. Nothing too comprehensive. The first two are at the 3200CL14 XMP. I did see a bump moving to 3600. That being said my best CPU score with my Vega 64 was 12147 (NOT PICTURED) and that was with the 3600 C-dies. So dropping to 3600 CL14 from 3600 cl18 so far hasn't done much for CPU scores. I will be trying to see if I can push to 4000MHz CL 16 or lower.

 

I don't think so. Games generally don't use more than 16 gigs of memory afaik

[edit NO!
This does not and never did imply I am advocating building a 16 gb machine today! Reading comprehension is a thing just like the earth being round, and if you think this means I advocate building a 16gb machine today you failed. You want to attack me think of something else. Ideally something that isn't B.S., though that may be asking too much]

 

I don't think so. Games generally don't use more than 16 gigs of memory afaik

There are games that use more than 16GB. Not many but they are there. I would say 32GB these days should be the minimum amount of memory for any gaming rig that ISN'T a budget / entry level Gamer.

 

To do that you’ve got to have a bunch of mods loaded. games are generally written for consoles and the consoles only have 16gb so games don’t normally use more. To do so you’ve ususally got to step outside of “designed” use.
As for memory speed whether you can even run faster memory is a factor of your motherboard and cpu. I got some faster memory and learned It may not actually run because even though my motherboard can handle it my cpu may not :/. AMD ddr4 has an effective limit of 3766 because of infinity fabric stepping. Intel Has memory issues if you don’t have a k chip and sometimes even then.

 

As said before. There are games that will use 16GB of ram or more. There is no reason to be building a 16GB gaming machine anymore unless you are on the TIGHTEST of budgets. Telling people that 16GB is alright can pretty much be written off as bad advice. It's not enough in 2025 anymore. 2016 yeah sure. We aren't on consoles we are on PCs. Pushing games to the limits is literally the reason why pc gaming exists in the first place. To be better than consol gaming. To be able to run games well beyond the levels that some 800 dollar box under the TV can do.

 

my best results on 5800X3D were 3600mhz ram good timings with IF at 1800mhz

32GB is plenty, I have seen my system use go above 15-16GB a few times but never close to using the whole 32

 

Really bad advice. Consoles have nothing to do with pc gaming.

 

Needed to be a reply.

 

So more BS. Im an injection drug user now? See i associate things dealing with him to the deeply stupid belly itching pseudo logic like I've been seeing. Its very unusual for this forum. You see it all the time on political sites though. So in my eye the pure stupidity associates them, because one doesn't normally see it here. Seems i did in fact ask too much.

Ok whatever then. Go to another site where you can spread your flawed technical knowledge on subjects that are clearly above your understanding. You clearly know very little to nothing about PC gaming and how it works so maybe you should just humble yourself and just learn from those that have decades of experience in the PC industry. You are the only one that is running around trying to pass off 16GB as being acceptable for PC gaming when everyone in this thread has told you it's not.

And instead of accepting that in this case you are INFACT wrong you are trying to sprout off some Trump derangement syndrome political rubbish to try and somehow prove that you are in fact somehow enlightened beyond all others and the one that is correct in this particular part of the PC gaming industry. Your leaps of logic defy explanation and I honestly think this conversation has run its course. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and I bid you good day sir.

 

Im thinking the exact opposite. The one spreading flawed stuff is you with the reading comprehension problem (I’ve had reading comprehension problems as well here but at least i catch myself and stop when i realize I've done it. )

I get that the standard behavior of trumper shills is “if you see someone not toeing the line attempt to drive them off the internet by any means necessary” as I’ve seen it before. I understand it goes the other way too, creating a sort of tribalism on the internet. I personally ignore it. I dont give two about internet tribalism or who controls what. If i see the GOP or DEM making a massive mistake i will not avoid referencing it out of fear. I will talk about the thing the site is there to talk about.

So back to the actual thing. This has taken so long to play that the situation actually may have changed slightly. Some tarrifs have changed but some have actually increased. The relavant tarrif has apparently increased from 10% to 125%. This is for gpus an unenforceable level, because it is so high it creates smuggling because while it will work for some stuff, if an object is small and expensive, like gpus it wont work. At this point it is useful to remember why cigarette boats are called cigarette boats.

So we will either see no cards at all (unlikely) or we will see them “used” or filtered through a complying country or smuggled or something.

The issue is because smuggling is in the mix, that there will be black market cards out there which we haven’t dealt with much before. This could be both good and bad. Bad because you are a lot more likely to get a brick-in-a-box, so more attention will need to be paid as to whether a card actually does the thing you paid for it to do but potentially good in that this whole artificial market is held up by patent claims, and if legality goes away patent claims go with them. Both AMD and Nvidia are US based, so ignoring their patents is actually in the interests off other countries. Simply copying one and printing it without paying any license fees costs pennies. black market cards prices may actually be way below current prices.
We’re going to have to see what happens. Its not super predictable though.

Does any of this mean the OP should consider buying larger amount of faster memory? Still no. 32gb is still more than will be used by almost any game for any reason in the immediate or near future, though there are some wild edge cases where so many mods are loaded that are so big more memory may actually help. Its unlikey to happen any time in the near future. I was able to run hundreds of mods within my 32gb limit without hitting swap (or pagefile as microsoft calls it) as for faster memory, whether the OP can even run it will depend on his/her hardware. If its a k chip on a high end board, probably. If its not probably not. My memory is we dont even know whether he’s running amd or intel, and i dont know much about modern amd memory behavior.