^^^ You are WAY over-thinking this subject.

The link below is an excellent HSF thermal efficiency/capacity database. How any HSF performs in your PC case with your PC hardware can only be determined from actual testing in your PC case though the better HSFs still tend to perform well in any PC case they can fit in. They are all typically within a couple degrees C - so any of them will serve you well.

As far as aesthetics is conceren that is subjective and 100% your call. Buy What Makes YOU Happy.

 

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^^^ You are WAY over-thinking this subject.

The link below is an excellent HSF thermal efficiency/capacity database. How any HSF performs in your PC case with your PC hardware can only be determined from actual testing in your PC case though the better HSFs still tend to perform well in any PC case they can fit in. They are all typically within a couple degrees C - so any of them will serve you well.
As far as aesthetics is conceren that is subjective and 100% your call. Buy What Makes YOU Happy.

I have to over think this. I don't have much money. The cooler I buy now should last forever.

Oh speaking of forever...... there's another plus side for the Noctua.... as they have "adapters" so that you can use the coolers in future builds. Both the C14 and D14 can be used for socket 2011.

OH... and where is your... "Link Below"?

 

No thoughts? Anyone? After a few more video's i'm now leaning towards the Thermalright true black.

 

Best bang for the buck IMO is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO(newest version)

PS I have an NH-D14 now but previously had the Hyper

 

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Best bang for the buck IMO is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO(newest version)
PS I have an NH-D14 now but previously had the Hyper

I second this. Hyper is a very good cooler and It's great for its price. I don't personally own it tho.

 

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I have to over think this. I don't have much money. The cooler I buy now should last forever.
Oh speaking of forever...... there's another plus side for the Noctua.... as they have "adapters" so that you can use the coolers in future builds. Both the C14 and D14 can be used for socket 2011.
OH... and where is your... "Link Below"?

not even sure why you are over thinking this... you know noctua is the better choice in the long run so for a "should last forever" point of view, there is really no contest... noctua will provide mounting hardware for future sockets. as long as the industry stays with the ATX specification, there is no need to worry about the D14 becoming obsolete. I wouldn't look at the C14 either since it is designed for low profile chassis like a SFF case. and for that you do give up some cooling performance for it. Unless you absolutely know you will be moving to a SFF rig in the future, there is no point in getting the lower performing C14.

 

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not even sure why you are over thinking this... you know noctua is the better choice in the long run so for a "should last forever" point of view, there is really no contest... noctua will provide mounting hardware for future sockets. as long as the industry stays with the ATX specification, there is no need to worry about the D14 becoming obsolete. I wouldn't look at the C14 either since it is designed for low profile chassis like a SFF case. and for that you do give up some cooling performance for it. Unless you absolutely know you will be moving to a SFF rig in the future, there is no point in getting the lower performing C14.

The reason why the C14 is there is because It cools not only the cpu but also the stuff around it. So more of a general motherboard cooling solution as well. My mobo doesn't have any of those fancy heatsinks modern motherboards now have. And sooner or later my motherboard is going to be obsolete. So I would like to make this one last forever as well.

There isn't that much guarantee that just getting adapters for future sockets will make the sink last me forever really... it is just a plus really for one to two builds more. But eventually when that time comes, using a cooler that was designed for older processors wouldn't be good even if they do make adapters for it.

As I said in the initial quote, I'm looking for aesthetics and performance sweet spot. And as I described it, the thermalright coolers are like prostitutes that come cheaper and slutty but needs added cash to perform, and the noctua coolers come expensive already but with the performance already there and not much room for adding stuff and not so slutty in my opinion.

 

I reccomend looking into my cooler, the spire thermax eclipse ii

its a very good cooler and keeps up with the NH-D14, and its dark nickel plated, looks awesome, so maybe a good addition to your black white theme

I dont know what kind of beast CPU you are going to cool, but i have my 1100t 6 core overclocked to 4.23 GHZ with 5-10 celcius to spare, this cooler is a absolute beast and comes with 2 fans, both 2200 RPM, so push pull is a option without any more costs.
so I definetly suggest you take a look at that cooler
comparison

I bought mine for 40 euro's as I currently live in the nederlands so it is a good bang for your buck cooler if you ask me.

hope I helped you, or at least showed you that there are other awesome coolers on the market

 

For you budget you may also take a look at the NH-U12P SE2. It was recommend too me. It's a great cooler and the prize is also good. However it's not the best performer. You may take a look at the Prolimatech Genesis and Prolimatech Megahelms. They are simply the best and the Prolimatech Genesis is a hybrid tower and top cooler and it cools both the cpu and the chipset. But Noctua is good because of the package (and the service). If your budget is tight and you are new to building a box I can recommend the Noctua NH-12UP SE2.

1. http://www.hardwareoverclock.com/Prolimatech_Genesis_Dual_Orangeline_Edition-5.htm,

 

we dont like buying things twice or three/four times, either. as you'll prolly find out,
most suggestions are pretty dead on. 90% of the members have already asked the
same question and have found out that the budget coolers can either tide you over
in performance until you deem a higher-end cooler is necessary. everybodys input
was dervied the same as you. what air-cooler am i going to buy and why?
and in most cases a budget cooler can get you 10°-15° decrease in temperatures
over a stock CPU bulk air-cooler, but if you need more, then save for the high-end
unit so you only have to buy once.

we can spend your money faster than you can, so it is up to you to decide whether
you can function on a budget cooler or your a candidate for a high-end air-cooler.

airdeano

 

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I second this. Hyper is a very good cooler and It's great for its price. I don't personally own it tho.

I had both the cooler masters the 1st version then the evo
ran them with the 2 blade masters on pwm was very good at 4.7
even blade masters on the evo, took the new version fan off and substituted
Can't really say the NH-D14 now is "better" in the sense of temps thou the "quality" is better
ie: mount hardware etc

 

which model 140mm is included with the Ven-X deal?

Bear in mind that the Ven-X doesn't even have enough surface area to utilize the entirety of a 140mm, so you'd be compromising the air velocity and pressure of a 120 for a 140 that blows relatively more of its air around the heatsink rather than through it.

 

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which model 140mm is included with the Ven-X deal?
Bear in mind that the Ven-X doesn't even have enough surface area to utilize the entirety of a 140mm, so you'd be compromising the air velocity and pressure of a 120 for a 140 that blows relatively more of its air around the heatsink rather than through it.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17921923

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17921590

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17921779

here are the links, the silver arrow..... hmmm... i think it's overpriced if you compare it with the noctua NH-D14 but i included it none the less.

 

If I were you, I'll go with the noctua since adding it up, the noctua is cheaper because it already comes with 2 fans.

There are also multiple sellers in tpc, and some of them don't list all their products. It might also be helpful to go to the store themselves.

Aside from that, the fans also have high markup prices(such as the corsair). The Philippine SRP of the fan is 710 and the price in tpc is about 900?

 

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If I were you, I'll go with the noctua since adding it up, the noctua is cheaper because it already comes with 2 fans.
There are also multiple sellers in tpc, and some of them don't list all their products. It might also be helpful to go to the store themselves.
Aside from that, the fans also have high markup prices(such as the corsair). The Philippine SRP of the fan is 710 and the price in tpc is about 900?

Weeeelll... there are some that are really expensive so I have to choose the cheapest retailer.

The benefit of getting a thermalright instead of a noctua for me is that I can get it sooner for a lower price. And then get a fan later... and then later... get another fan.

Noctua I have to shell out all 3250 in one go.

 

totally overthinking. look, i understand you don't have a lot of money. nor do i. enter hyper 212+/evo. problem solved. so what, you don't get 100-200mhz more on your overclock. doesn't matter. 100-200mhz is so insignificant you won't be able to perceive any difference.

 

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17905210

I think I'm gonna go with the rest. The Hyper 212 Evo is one of the best. I have it's sibling, the TX3 Evo and it provides cool enough temps in comparison to the Philippine weather. That's about 40C idle and 60~C load.

 

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totally overthinking. look, i understand you don't have a lot of money. nor do i. enter hyper 212+/evo. problem solved. so what, you don't get 100-200mhz more on your overclock. doesn't matter. 100-200mhz is so insignificant you won't be able to perceive any difference.

He can buy the NH-U12P SE2 either. It comes with 2 fans. Or the spire thermax eclipse ii with 5 heatpipes. when I have my old Dell 8600 laptop it was a 2.0 ghz cpu and a 1080p monitor and I could barely watch youtube. I then bought the 2.1 ghz cpu and replace my old cpu and it makes a different. I could watch youtube videos. So it really depends on what he needs.