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AMD Radeon RX 9070 / 9070 XT Owner's Thread

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Come one, come all who have purchased a 9070/XT!

Feel free to mention any info you'd like pinned here.

Before you post below asking questions about: troubleshooting, drivers, temperatures, tuning/Undervolt/OC, BIOS Flash/Editing, etc/etc please read this post. It has gotten long, but odds are it will answer most of your questions.

Let's chat about AMD really being back in the game; pun intended. :geek:
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If it's your first time visiting and posting, or not, please share some info that we're compiling!

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GPU / AIB / Model
Stock TBP Power Limit

GPU Memory Temperature
GPU Core to Hot Spot Delta
Radeon Tuning Auto-OC Freq Offset
ASIC % from HWInfo

SMU FW version from HWInfo

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How to find ASIC / SMU FW Version in HWInfo
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Either Choose "Full Mode"
Or, Un-check both"Sensors-Only" and "Summary-Only"

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ASIC %, if listed for your GPU, will be above SMU FW Version
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Owners List w/ VRAM ° & Hot Spot Δ Delta°

Will figure out what other info to track as things progress.

UserAIB9070 / XTModelASICAuto TuneVRAM TempHot Spot Delta
5mall5nail5XFXXTMerc Mag OC
75VetteXFXXTQuicksilver Mag
AussieJuggaloPowerColor9070Red Devil
barium56SapphireXTPulseN/A
BelkovPowerColorXTHellhoundN/A7615
Blaub33r3ASRock9070Steel Legend
b0uncyfr0ASRockXTSteel Legend
BudreeshaXFXXTMerc G. OC82-8421-25
digitalfrostASUSXTPrime OCN/A1039225
dimkatsvSapphireXTNitro+N?A10392-9627-33
DonDizzurpASUSXTTUF OC
fracturedSapphireXTNitro+N/A1037631
GamermanGigabyteXT?
grifersSapphireXTNitro+30
inedenimadamGigabyteXTGaming OC
iowcatalyst2PowerColor9070Red Devil
jasonisopPowerColor9070Red Devil10221
JM PopaleetusPowerColorXTHell Hound1039225
Jonny KGigabyteXTAorus EliteN/A9427-30
JunnehASrockXTSteel Legend
JunnehGigabyteXTGaming OC
kairi_zerobladeSapphireXTNitro+
kiwivdaPowerColorXTRed Devil26
Lare111SapphireXTPulse8625
LtMattGigabyteXTAorus Elite8030+
lurifaksSapphireXTNitro+N/A1039025
majestynlPowerColorXTRed Devil
MakkiSapphireXTNitro+N/A1039030
M3TAIASRockXTSteel Legend
mtbiker033PowerColorXTRed Devil LEN/A7425-27
nepnep_ASRockXTTaichi
nilssohnGigabyteXTGaming OC
ns0130Sapphire9070Nitro+N/A1028020
PROBYN4LYFEPowerColor9070Hell Hound
PROBYN4LYFEPowerColorXTRed Devil
Quad DamageSapphireXTPulse
RedFXFXXTMerc OC10323
RobiatiGigabyteXTOC Gaming
RoboytoPowerColor9070ReaperN/A10288-9515-20
russell664PowerColorXTHell HoundN/A1038230-35
scloutkst2889PowerColorXTReaperN/A10216-20
supergt99Gigabyte9070OC Gaming
SuperMumrikASUSXT
tdimarzioASUSXTPrime OC30-35
thigobrASRockXTTaichiN/A9026
ToguroSRSapphireXTPulse23
ToguroSRSapphireXTNitro+
VelomeSapphireXTPure9026
westcoastjosASUSXTTUF82-8436
yt93900SapphireXTNitro+92-9525-30
ZealotKi11erGigabyteXTAorus Elite

9070 XT Specs per AIB/Model

AIBModelBoostConnectorsDual BIOSPwr LimitsSlot WidthLengthWidth
AcerPredator BiFrost31003 x 8-pin???340 / 374?????????
ASRockTaichi OC310012V-2X6YES340 / 3743330140
ASRockSteel Legend29702 x 8-pinNO310 / 3412.9298131
ASUSTUF OC3060 / 30803 x 8-pinYES330 / 3633.13330140
ASUSPRIME OC3010 / 30303 x 8-pinYES317 / 3492.5312130
GIGABYTEAORUS ELITE31003 x 8-pinYES340 / 3742.95339136
GIGABYTEGAMING OC30603 x 8-pinYES330 / 3632.8288132
PowerColorRed Devil3010 / 30603 x 8-pinYES317 / 349
330 / 363
3.45340132
PowerColorHellhound2970 / 30102 x 8-pinYES304 / 334
317 / 349
2.45327128
PowerColorReaper29702 x 8-pinNO317 / 3492.1289111
SapphireNITRO+306012V-2X6NO330 / 3633.3331128.5
SapphirePURE30102 x 8-pinNO317 / 3493.1320120.25
SapphirePULSE29702 x 8-pinNO304 / 3343.1320120.25
XFXMercury OC Mag.Air31003 x 8-pinYES340 / 3743.5360155
XFXMercury OC31003 x 8-pinYES340 / 3743.5360155
XFXMercury Gaming29702 x 8-pinNO304 / 3343.5360155
XFXQuicksilver Mag.Air29702 x 8-pinYES304 / 3343.5350140
XFXQuicksilver OC29702 x 8-pinNO304 / 3343.5350140
XFXQuick Silver Gaming29702 x 8-pinYES304 / 3343.5350140
XFXSwift OC29702 x 8-pinNO304 / 3343.5325150
AcerNitro OC3100??340 / 3743.3?331129
AcerNitro2970??304 / 3343.3?331129

9070 Specs per AIB/Model

AIBModelBoostConnectorsDual BIOSPwr LimitsSlot WidthLengthHeight
AcerPredator BiFrost27002 x 8-pin???245 / 269?????????
1ASRockSteel Legend27002 x 8-pinNO245 / 2692.9298131
2ASrockChallenger25202 x 8-pinNO220 / 2422?290123
3ASUSTUF OC2650 / 26702 x 8-pinYES240 / 265??3.13330140
4ASUSPRIME OC2590 / 26102 x 8-pinYES220?2.5312130
5GIGABYTEGAMING OC27002 x 8-pinYES2452.8288132
6PowerColorRed Devil2650 / 27002 x 8-pinYES2453.45340132
7PowerColorHellhound2520 / 25902 x 8-pinYES233 / 257??2.45327128
8PowerColorReaper25902 x 8-pinNO220 / 2422.1289111
9SapphireNITRO+270012V-2x6NO245 / 2693.2331128.5
10SapphirePURE27002 x 8-pinNO245 / 2693.1320120.25
11SapphirePULSE25202 x 8-pinNO220 / 2423.1320120.25
12XFXQuicksilver Mag.Air27002 x 8-pin?245??3.5350140
13XFXQuicksilver OC27002 x 8-pin?245??3.5350140
14XFXQuicksilver Gaming27002 x 8-pin?247 / 272??3.5350140
15XFXSwift OC27002 x 8-pinYES245??3.5325150
16AcerNitro OC2700??245 / 2693.3?331129
17AcerNitro25202 x 8-pin?220 / 2423.3?331129

Common Troubleshooting

1) Check Driver Version. Win Update is forcing a pre-release version. More info below.
2) DDU in safe mode (again). DDU can disable all driver updates / or disable LAN/Wi-Fi before rebooting. More info below.
3) Are you using a PCIe riser? Is it 5.0 compatible? If not alter PCIe slot setting in BIOS to 4.0/3.0/etc. There is minimal performance loss with lower setting.
4) While in the BIOS you can try disabling "Fast Boot".
4a)
Disable Fast Boot in Windows.
5) Remove & Re-seat GPU in the slot / check all cables/connections.
6) Are you using daisy-chain PCIe power cables? Could be a problem.
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7) Is your PSU old? Sufficient? We are noticing relatively high "GPU Power Maximum" readings via HWInfo; 400-600+ watts. Higher than what TPU reviews suggest for transient spikes. TPU - 9070 XT Power TPU - 9070 Power

Potentially a reason to move to an ATX 3.0/3.1 PSU if you don't have one. ATX 3.0/3.1 spec calls for ability to provide 200% of PSU peak power in an excursion/burst that lasts 100ÎĽs.

There is a caveat here however. It would be wisest to target a unit with a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 connector even if you're not going to use it. This is because if does not have the new connector, the excursion rating must only be 150%.

Explanation via HWBusters article. HWBusters 2025 PSU
Best Picks List.


Tuning / UV / OC / ETC

You can do so via Radeon Tuning/Software Package or MoreClockTool from Igor's Lab. Links are further down in the post for either. (I don't personally have experience w/ other apps for this purpose.)

First thing to mention that is counterintuitive: + Freq Offset (currently), for the vast majority, doesn't help. See here, here.

No need to adjust the freq offset. Basically you need to be hitting over 3450MHz for it to matter. If anything it might cause crash if u load up gpu with some weird workload that gets the clks high.
In my experience the frequency slider does batshit :poop: on 9070xt.
It will clock when it has room on power/voltage, regardless of setting.
I did some testing here showing how +/- freq offset does little for scores in Speed Way for my 9070.

I have experienced the same. Any value for + Freq Offset for my 9070 Reaper gives ~+30 MHz in clocks at best, but regression in bench scores. Der8auer also experienced the same in his UV/OC Video.

It was also causing my 3DMark results to take REALLY long to load.

With that out of the way, we can get to what will improve performance...


VRAM OC w/ Fast Timings

Most cards here, and in reviews, settle between 2700-2800. This can vary pending game/bench/app. It's ultimately up to silicon lottery tho 🎲🎲.

Pushing too high likely won't cause crashes/instability, but performance will regress! Pay attention to scores/FPS/etc. This is due to error correction when data is being sent multiple times due to errors. If VRAM temps get particularly high, near ~108C TJMax, you could experience VRAM clock throttling.

VRAM power budget is part of total power limit. I did some testing to show increased VRAM clocks can lower boost clocks. Games/Benches/Apps that load VRAM Controller hard(er) typically tolerate a smaller -neg voltage offset & may exhibit lower GPU clock speeds.

Using VulkanMemTest - Max VRAM Stability - From @barium56


Link for VulkanMemTest download further down in the post.

From my experience with 9070 Reaper & 9070 Nitro+ you can find a relatively stable VRAM OC using VulkanMemTest; thanks @barium56 . A very short load with MemTest can tell you almost immediately if you have a good/bad setting. 10-20 MHz can make a 10% difference in bandwidth! (see photos below)

You may have to test longer, but with the 5-minute test you can you can get yourself in the ballpark of what stable settings will be. As always, with tuning/OC, YMMV with silicon lotto.
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I use 2732Mhz as on my sample any higher on memory frequency starts to result in bandwidth speeds slowly dropping as I have Memtest Vulkan running. YMMV.
Negative Voltage Offset

Card will automagically 🧙‍♂️ clock higher.

How low is highly dependent on your GPU & then game/bench/app. Driver will hang/stall/crash/etc if it is too low.

My 9070 Reaper at -100mV gains ~170MHz on average.

50-70mV seems safe for most people under most loads. Beyond that is dependent per GPU and then game/bench/app. My 9070 Reaper appears universally stable at -100mV, and does -150mV in Fire Strike Ultra / Port Royal. It's ultimately up to silicon lottery tho 🎲🎲.

Some XT users have encountered particularly sensitive games where even very small offsets end up unstable. Unsure of the specific cause at this point. Game patches and/or driver updates may sort this out. Just remember that stability in one, or a few, benchmark(s) rarely equates to universal stability for all other games/loads.

Negative voltage offset doesn't seem to reduce power draw. The GPU boosts higher soaking up the extra watts. Lower power draw can definitively be obtained by reducing power limit. A combination of negative voltage offset & reduced power limit can reduce draw and maintain stock performance. You'll have to tinker to find out how your card acts in this regard.

Negative Freq Offset can also lower power draw, but going too low may cause driver hang/stall/crash/etc.


Power Limit

Increasing power limit will also automagically 🧙‍♂️ clock higher.

My 9070 Reaper at +10%, w/ no other changes, gains ~110MHz on average.

All RX 9070/XT power limit in Radeon/MoreClockTool goes from -30% to +10% of TBP (total board power). This value is dependent on which specific model. You can see TBP values in the ^ charts above ^.

RX 9070 reference is 220W. Range is 154W-242W.

RX 9070 XT reference is 304W. Range is 213W-334W.

Higher tier cards increase these values.

VRAM power budget is part of total power limit. I did some testing to show increased VRAM clocks can lower boost clocks. Whether higher VRAM or Core clocks are better for you in a particular game/bench/app, you must find out.


Negative Max Frequency Offset

Once again, counterintuitive, but people are hitting slightly higher frequencies.

Check your bench scores/FPS and see what works best.

You'll know you've pushed to far when you get driver hang/stall/crash/etc.


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Happy tuning folks! May the silicon gods smile upon thee!

Feel free to share any info/bench results.

More information will be added as things unfold.


BIOS Flash/Editing & Increasing Power Limit
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UserGPUFlashed ToPost Link
n/a9070 Hell HoundXT Merc Gaming (304W)here
n/a9070 Hell HoundXT Reaperhere
barium56XT PulseXT Aorus Elitehere
newbie20099070 Sapphire PureXT Aorus Elitehere
otakunorthXT Steel LegendXT Taichihere
Roboyto9070 ReaperXT Reaperhere
supergt999070 Gigabyte OCXT Gigabyte OChere

TechPowerUp 9070 XT BIOS List For Download

BIOS flash is possible in Windows utilizing a CH341A Programmer (hardware) and software such as ASProgrammer or NeoProgrammer. BIOS editing still does not function.

Important note for successful flash: Choose an XT BIOS from a GPU that has same display output. I.E. if your card has 3X HDMI and 1X DP, only select an XT BIOS with the same config.

BIOS flash via CH341A, EVC2 & Shunt Mod info via HardwareLuxx.

Some specifics on CH341A flashing from @barium56 here here.

More specifics on NeoProgammer & CH341A flashing from yours truly here flashing 9070 Reaper to XT Reaper. Also specifc info on new(er) CH341A w/ voltage toggle switch.

9070 ASUS Prime successfully flashed to Prime XT for 317W TBP. More info in DE 🇩🇪 PCGH forum around here.

TechTuber Prime 9070 -> Prime XT Some good lessons in this one. I'd suggest checking out the Luxx & TPU links so you can likely avoid some of the headaches this dude ran into.

Feeling brave? CH341A Flashing For Dummies ® via TechPowerUp forums here.

I recommend using AsProgrammer, as it has the the option to do the 4 needed options to write successfully in one step. The file ending shouldn't matter at all (.bin / .rom). You downloaded a BIOS from techpowerup, right?
Interesting nugget of info from the TPU article on the 9070 -> XT flash:

Update 13:23 UTC: Our resident hardware guru W1zzard has the following explanation for why the card's name does not change. On AMD cards, the revision ID field is used to distinguish between variants of the same GPU. On the RX 9070 Series, the XT models uses "C0" and the non-XT uses "C3." In the past, the AMD BIOS stored the revision ID of the card, and flashing the BIOS would change the value that Windows sees, and thus the model name will change accordingly. With Navi 4x, AMD made a change to their BIOS format, so that the revision ID can no longer be changed, which protects against fake cards, but in this case it means that some properties like power limits, clocks, etc. can swap to values from the BIOS, but all the IDs and unit counts remain fixed.


Linux still has the ability for SPPT Editing

If you are willing to dabble in Linux, then editing Soft Power Play tables is an option to boost power limit. LevelOneTechs Forum w/ link to GitHub.

See Here, Here.


More Technical Info

TDC seems to be the same for all, max 330A GFX and 88A SOC for every 9070(XT).
The max voltage for the 9070 is 1100mV, the XT version allows max 1200mV.
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J4003 on PCBs that have marking, RedF posted here. Gigabyte XT Aorus/Gaming no markings on PCB, so no idea on location, XT Nitro+ / XT Taichi have markings on PCB
Buildzoid / AHCOC - YT - XFX 9070 Swift OC Teardown & PCB


ASRock Steel Legend 9070 XT PCB Shots - Courtesy of @M3TAl

Buildzoid/Actually Hardcore OC - YT Sapphire Nitro+ 12V-2x6

Sapphire Pulse & Pure 9070 XT use same PCB. Here

HardwareLuxx.de 🇩🇪 - Forum compiling PCB/VRM Info

V/F Curve - As logged/calculated by @RedF w/ his XT Merc OC.


M$ Update Forcing Pre-Release Drivers

AMD has stated they have fixed this with 25.3.2 BETA Drivers.

So far while using 25.3.2 on a couple fresh OS installs, I have not experienced the driver being overwritten by WinUpdates.

Several people, including myself, have reported strange issues, performance loss, invalid 3DMark runs, etc.

Check your driver version. M$, in their infinite wisdom, is forcing pre-release drivers via Win Update; Ver. # 24.30.31.02 from 2/12/25. This is happening even if you have windows update disabled through group policy.

Run DDU and reinstall 25.3.1.
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Thanks to @gupsterg for pointing out that DDU has an option to prevent Win Update from doing auto driver installs.

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What's up with high VRAM Temps?

I reached out to PowerColor Tech Support. They stated that VRAM temperature of ~90-95C is normal / safe. See their response here. This aligns with what @Dogzilla07 said previously:
I can't find the datasheets again, the website I looked up before is down, but someone who did check the datasheets, and tests a lot/has access to testing mentioned ~90c is fine indefinitely
Igor's Lab
dug into this as well. His findings align with what we had already been discussing in terms of temperature limits and what can be considered normal operating temps.

With his Nitro+ XT, he ended up replacing VRAM pads with (an undisclosed) putty. Combining that with a marginally higher fan speed target, +150 RPM, saw a reduction of ~6C from the looks of the graph provided in the article. Thus keeping VRAM at ~86C rather than closer to the 95C target (originally) set by Sapphire.

Igor notes that he reached out to Sapphire regarding the card's behavior in stock form. Future Nitro+ models will be released with an updated BIOS w/ slightly higher fans speeds to hit a slightly lower VRAM temp target. They are potentially considering an udpated BIOS for existing cards.

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TLDR: Most reviews, and our experience so far, show VRAM temps from low 80's into the mid-90's. This seems to be par for the course ⛳. I'm also not aware of any reviews that pointed this out as a problem...

See here (translate from Spanish) for article on SK Hynix GDDR6 VRAM spec. Thanks to @barium56 for originally sharing data sheet and @Dogzilla07 for the link to El Chapuzas with further info.

An old SK Hynix data sheet lists 85C max. There was another stating 105C max, but that's oddly no longer available. Additionally, HWInfo's "GPU Memory Thermal Limit" reading would dictate ~108C as the max. ~108C aligns with data pulled from VBIOS of AMD Reference RX 7900 XTX which uses exact same model VRAM. See conversations we've had here, here & here.

Since RX 7000 used the same chips, and there haven't been issues, to my knowledge, this may end up being a moot topic.

Improving High Hot Spot Temperature/Delta

Some users have reported relatively high Core -> Hot Spot temperature differences; 25C-30C+.

@LtMatt improved Hot Spot delta for his AORUS Elite 9070 XT. From 30C+ down to ~20C w/ liquid metal.

Upgrade to LM w/ AORUS Elite 9070 XT
A word of caution to those unaware, and/or faint of heart, liquid metal is electrically conductive. Improper application, or oopsies, can cause shorting/irreparable damage to your hardware.

It is best to use w/ nickel plated heatsinks. You can apply to bare copper, but this usually requires more frequent servicing as it gets absorbed into, and permanently stains, the copper; not removable without sanding. It should never be used with aluminum heatsinks!

Gamers Nexus - Liquid Metal

AMD Official Info/Links:

AMD Official RDNA4 Reveal Video YT
AMD Official Page Radeon RX 9000
Official Page RX 9070 XT

Official Page RX 9070

Drivers / Software:

DDU Page
Radeon Drivers Page
HWInfo Page
GPU-Z Page
MemTest_Vulkan - GitHub Page
RadeonSoftwareSlimmer - GitHub Page
Igor's Lab - MoreClockTool Tutorial

Igor's Lab - MoreClockTool Download

Driver VersionWHQLRelease DateSMU FWTPU Link
25.3.1YES3/6/250.104.6325.3.1
25.3.2BETA3/20/250.104.6325.3.2 BETA
25.4.1BETA4/23/2525.4.1 BETA

Helpful Links:

TPU - RDNA4 / 9070(XT) Technical Deep Dive

TPU - RX 9070 XT Page & List
TPU - RX 9070 Page & List

Reddit Link - RX 9070 XT Google Docs List


3DMark Results Search Page


FSR4:

AMD Official FSR Supported Games List/Page

Hardware Unboxed - YT - @ CES FSR 4 Demo Ratchet & Clank
Hardware Unboxed YT - FSR4 @ 1440P

Computerbase.De - FSR3.1 ~vs~ FSR4 ~vs~ DLSS3/4

Digital Foundry YT - FSR4 ~VS~ DLSS 3/4


Sony Assisted w/ FSR4 Development

OptiScaler& FSR4:

OptiScaler is a tool that lets you replace upscalers in games that already support DLSS2+ / FSR2+ / XeSS, now also supports enabling frame generation (through OptiFG or Nukem's dlssg-to-fsr3).

I have no experience with this application, but just came across it on Reddit. Will appreciate feedback from anyone who tries it!

OptiScaler GitHub Link

OptiScaler VideoCardz Article - Thanks @scloutkst2889 for sharing this info. @scloutkst2889 has reported great results using in CP2077 as video link below suggests.


YT - FSR4 ~vs~ 3.1 Cyber Punk 2077


Reviews:

Adrenaline (Brazil) - 9070 XT AORUS Elite
Clubic (French) - 9070 XT Prime // 9070 Pure
ComputerBase.de (German) 9070 Round-Up (5 cards) - TUF, Pure, Pulse, Hellhound & Quicksilver
CowCotland (French) - 9070 XT Gaming OC
Gamers Nexus - 9070 XT Pulse
GinjFo (French) - 9070 XT Merc RGB
Gizmodo - 9070 Acer Nitro
Guru3D - 9070 Pulse
Guru3D - 9070 QuickSilver OC
Hardware & Co (French) - 9070 XT Red Devil // 9070 Hellhound
HardwareLuxx (German) - 9070 XT: TUF, Red Devil & Nitro+ // 9070: TUF & Hellhound
Hot Hardware - 9070 XT: QuickSilver Mag Air & Reaper // 9070 Gaming OC
PauseHardware (French) - 9070 XT Red Devil

TechPowerUp - 9070 XT Merc OC Mag Air
TechPowerUp - 9070 XT Nitro+
TechPowerUp - 9070 XT Pulse
TechPowerUp - 9070 XT Taichi
TechPowerUp - 9070 Hellhound
TechPowerUp - 9070 TUF OC
TechSpot - (3) RX 9070's - Pure, Hellhound, Quicksilver
TomsHardware - PowerColor 9070 & XT Reaper

Reddit - 9070 (XT) ~vs~ RTX 4000/5000 & RX 7000 - Meta - 14 Review Averages

Linux - Phoronix Linux - 9070 XT Reaper & 9070 Gaming OC


YouTube Video Reviews:

BPS Customs YT - 9070 & XT Steel Legend
Der8auer YT - 9070 XT TUF // 9070 Swift
Eteknix YT - 9070 XT AORUS Elite // 9070 Pulse
Gamers Nexus YT - 9070 Pulse
Gamers Nexus YT - 9070 XT Pulse
Hardware Canucks YT - 9070 & XT Reaper - STEM/AI
Hardware Unboxed YT -
55 Games - 9070 XT ~vs~ 5070 Ti
Hardware Unboxed YT - (3) RX 9070's - Pure, Quicksilver, Hellhound
Hardware Unboxed YT - (5) RX 9070 XT's - Pure, Merc, Taichi, TUF & Nitro+
KitGuru YT - 9070 XT Taichi // 9070 Pulse
Level1Techs - 9070 & XT Prime
Paul's Hardware YT - 9070 & XT Reaper
TPU YT - (5) 9070 XT's & 4 9070's - 9070 XT: Pulse, TUF, Nitro+, Merc & Taichi. // 9070: Steel Legend, Quicksilver, Hellhound & TUF


UV/OC - OCUK YT - RX 9070 XT UV/OC - Pure
UV/OC - Der8auer - RX 9070 XT Red Devil

Frame Times ~VS~ 5070 Ti - JayzTwoCents YT - XFX RX 9070 XT Merc Mag Air / XFX RX 9070 QuickSilver

12VHPWR/12V-2x6 - Buildzoid/Actually Hardcore Overclocking
- Buildzoid/Actually Hardcore OC YT - Sapphire's 12V-2x6
 
#2 ·
Was fortunate enough to be able to snag a 9070 Reaper at EU/Dutch MSRP of €639 from Megekko.

Their site was immediately overloaded when sale went live at 3PM and was down by 3:01. Took it 54 minutes to come back up. Glad I was patient and didn't give up.

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In true PowerColor reference fashion, the card is all business. Fit/Finish are really nice though despite the plain appearance. Shroud is textured plastic. Backplate ist textured metal.

Looking forward to hooking this guy up later today.

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My bro is off work due to recovering from surgery, so he was able to grab a 9070 XT Reaper from Micro Center yesterday. With it stuffed into a NZXT H1 V1, the GPU core maxes at 62C.

Will be very interesting to see what an UV does for this card. I expect temperatures to be exquisite and for it to be absolutely silent.
 
#3 ·
Picked up an Asus Prime OC 9070 XT for $599 at Micro Center. Generally, I am very happy with the Navi 48 performance and it is not far off in raster from my 7900 XTX, much faster in RT, all at 100w less, but, something has me concerned. I am seeing over 30c delta from GPU temp to hotspot temp which is putting my hotspot under full load into the upper 90s. Now, this is with quiet fans and max power, but is anyone else seeing this? I even repasted it with fresh PTM7950 but still seeing 30 to 33c delta which I was definitely not expecting.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Hey guys! From Romania here and managed to grab a Saphire pulse "close to MSRP"(vat and greed here are rampant even with the largest shops). Really impressed with the card, did not think I would end up here and impressed after downgrading once from RTX 4090 to 7900 XTX and now here. Actually this feels like a sidegrade compared to the 7900xtx with the initial tests I did, but with benefits (much better RT, temps and way less power draw).

Temps are sitting in general at 52 core and max 75 hotspot.

Running fast timings, 2700 on memory, -10 on core voltage, +200 on core clock and max power limit of course.

This one will go in my wife's PC after my NiTRO+ version gets here on monday. Nitro+ was not MSRP but from looking at the price I payed, it was like +100 euro VAT, +100 euro Sapphire implementation and +100 euro profit margin for importer + reseller .....fun, not.

Pulse was: 750 EURO
Nitro was: 900 EURO

Gotta love living in Europe sometimes.....not

Prices have went up for the models still available in modest numbers. I have even seen some going for aprox 1200 Euro, now
 
#6 · (Edited)
First time AMD for me for a long time. Got both 9070 and 9070 XT for MSRP. It's not that much of an upgrade for me from RTX 3090 and I loose some VRAM, but given how well I can sell the 3090, I figured why not. Especially for MSRP. Also it's just fun to move to an all-AMD system.

e: Paid 630€ for the 9070 and 690€ for the 9070 XT.

e2: In the past, I had good experience with using the Nvidia Auto-OC function. I would then take the curve and apply undervolting on top with MSI Afterburner. Is there something similar for AMD?
 
#44 ·
Which AIB & models did you get so I can add to owners sheet?
 
#7 ·
Anyone have a list of the power limits for each AIB's SKUs?
 
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I was hoping there would be a thread for these cards. I almost decided to wait this out but ended up going to mircocenter at noon, still a line but it was moving quickly. They sold out of MSRP cards while I was in line but I wanted one of the more custom cards (taichi or red devil). I ended up with the limited edition red devil and it was really well packaged. It runs really nice so far.

 
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Had a 6900 XT Red Devil. Very well packaged and crafted piece of hardware.

How's that fancy key cap that came with the limited edition?
 
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You get the fancy magnetic fans? Those things are super cool...they carry a hefty premium however.
 
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all at 100w less, but, something has me concerned. I am seeing over 30c delta from GPU temp to hotspot temp which is putting my hotspot under full load into the upper 90s.
From what I saw in numerous reviews, this seems somewhat normal for these cards. I'll ask my bro what kind of temps he is seeing with his Reaper XT.

From HUB review: 23, 21, 29, 26 & 24 over GPU core temp.
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If the card is performing well I don't think I would give it that much thought.

I would try messing around with an undervolt and the power limits. The XT is clearly pushed outside of optimal efficiency compared to the 9070.

I'd target around 1.000V and ~3100 MHz and see what happens.

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After downgrading once from RTX 4090 to 7900 XTX and now here. Actually this feels like a sidegrade compared to the 7900xtx with the initial tests I did, but with benefits (much better RT, temps and way less power draw).

Temps are sitting in general at 52 core and max 75 hotspot.

Running fast timings, 2700 on memory, -10 on core voltage, +200 on core clock and max power limit of course.

This one will go in my wife's PC after my NiTRO+ version gets here on monday. Nitro+ was not MSRP but from looking at the price I payed, it was like +100 euro VAT, +100 euro Sapphire implementation and +100 euro profit margin for importer + reseller .....fun, not.

Pulse was: 750 EURO
Nitro was: 900 EURO

Gotta love living in Europe sometimes.....not

Prices have went up for the models still available in modest numbers. I have even seen some going for aprox 1200 Euro, now
That's quite the journey with GPU's recently :D.

Sapphire always delivers with their cards. They have been an outstanding AIB of AMD's for 15-20 years. My first "high-end" GPU was an HD 4890 Vapor-X OC. Vapor chamber back then was a big deal lol.

The Nitro+ cards have always carried a relatively hefty premium over reference cards...so really you only got hosed by the reseller.

The cheapest card now available in The Netherlands is a 9070 Pulse for €759...I feel extremely fortunate to have refreshed Megekko's webpage at the right time to be able to get a card for retail price.


Got a Taichi from newegg at $730
Solid.

First time AMD for me for a long time. Got both 9070 and 9070 XT for MSRP. It's not that much of an upgrade for me from RTX 3090 and I loose some VRAM, but given how well I can sell the 3090, I figured why not. Especially for MSRP. Also it's just fun to move to an all-AMD system.

e: Paid 630€ for the 9070 and 690€ for the 9070 XT.

e2: In the past, I had good experience with using the Nvidia Auto-OC function. I would then take the curve and apply undervolting on top with MSI Afterburner. Is there something similar for AMD?
Welcome back to the AMD camp. I was an AMD guy for quite a while. Randomly ended up with an EVGA 2080 Ti Hydro Copper during Covid, ~$700, because someone returned it at the local PC shop.

I attempted to jump on AM5 right after the platform launched; after 5 glorious years with AM4. It was a complete nightmare. RMA'd (2) faulty CPUs and exchanged several motherboards. I threw in the towel in MAR 2023 and switched back to Intel. My 13700K has been rock solid thanks to undervolting and capping the power limit shortly after setting up the system.

Switching to the Intel system led me to ditch my custom water loop. After ~5 months of taking **** apart and putting it back together, I didn't want to deal with it anymore...back to AMD with a 6900 XT Red Devil. Beast of a card...but it was too loud for me after coming from custom water. Sold that when I found an open-box RTX 4070 for a reasonable price.

About 5 weeks ago I found an open-box RTX 4070 Ti Super for €733; great deal given the market. I scooped that up for my HTPC that the 6700 XT came out of.

I'm having video drop out problems though in that system now. I moved my 4070 over to that system, and the 4070 TiS into my desktop...the problem persists with the HTPC using the 4070. I've been on 4 different driver versions. Next move is reinstalling Windows. And after that trying the card without the PCIe riser cable...which is a pain, but likely necessary.

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In terms of UV/OC for AMD you can take a look at W1zzard's instructions from TPU.

I haven't messed around with my 9070 yet, so I can't comment...but I will have feed back in this regard sooner than later.

I use the TPU V/F charts as a guide. I linked those in the reply to @tdimarzio above. I typically use Radeon for tuning the GPU, so can't comment on AfterBurner w/ AMD. With the 6700 XT I would use HWInfo to monitor actual core voltage under load at stock, and then monitor as you reduce the voltage.
 
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#15 · (Edited)
From what I saw in numerous reviews, this seems somewhat normal for these cards. I'll ask my bro what kind of temps he is seeing with his Reaper XT.

From HUB review: 23, 21, 29, 26 & 24 over GPU core temp.
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If the card is performing well I don't think I would give it that much thought.

I would try messing around with an undervolt and the power limits. The XT is clearly pushed outside of optimal efficiency compared to the 9070.

I'd target around 1.000V and ~3100 MHz and see what happens.
Yep, this is while undervolted. Actually, whether it's stock, undervolted, OC'd or not, I'm seeing 30c to 35c delta. Otherwise, the card runs great and I'm generally happy with it. Getting 32k in timespy, almost 16k is timespy extreme, about 20k in port royal (this it power boosted, undervolted, RAM OC in place) but I really don't like how my hotspot approaches 100c under heavy sustained load while GPU temp is only 65c. It's kind of hard for me to ignore it.

Edit: So, I just tried reducing PL to stock and now core to hotspot delta is more like 27 or 28c, which I guess is close to the Taichi above. I think I'm maybe just expecting too much out of the cooler on this card compared to my XFX Merc 310 which was much more capable.
 
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Memory temps do seem to be relatively high comparatively, although 90C is still under spec. Most GDDR6 is 105C right?

An opportunity for thermal putty upgrade presumably?
 
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+20c is much more like it. I would be completely happy with that

I haven't had good experiences with PowerColor. Had 3 rdna2 navi21 red devils and all had problems.

Had a gigabyte aorus 1080 Ti which was awesome.

The best 5090 you can get is the gigabyte aorus master.

I think this is gigabyte's first foray into AMD cards though.

I like Sapphire but unfortunately I'm limited to max 3 slot width.
 
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Luck of the draw I suppose. PowerColor has typically been solid for me.

The pulse is 3 slots isn't it? I think the XFX Swift is as well.

Gigabyte has been with AMD for some time, they just never seem to be that popular from my perspective.
 
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Appreciate all the info the cards are looking great.
I missed out yesterday at my local MC I'm sick couldn't make it.
Due to a color theme would like a Pulse or Red Devil 9070 XT.
 
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I guess I'm technically an owner - have paid for a XFX Quicksilver Mag 9070 XT :) No idea when it will ship?!

I'm wagering the XFX cards all have similar PCBs, so looking forward to sticking the Mercury OC 340W bios on it as soon as possible :)

9070XT Merc OC.

Two BIOS modules on the back.
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And a neatly labelled EVC2 access. :ROFLMAO:
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Brilliant, I might have to wade into the EVC2 world this generation. I feel like there is probably more on the table with this GPU. Just need AlphaCool to make a block for the XFX now!!
 
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#40 · (Edited)
I managed to get 2 9070xts

1 Asrock steel legend that runs kinda hot. But still within spec (92 hotspot when pushed 90 vrams)

1 GB gaming oc which seems to be a really good sample. Nice hotspot on 79c too. Rams 82c. Will go above 3400mhz

Both undervolt great, much better then RX7k series. Stock performance ( ~3000mhz) for ~ 250 watts.
U dont need a high pl card to hit nice mhz either (32-33s). Hotspot is also moot with undervolt.

I am consistently beating XTX with tuned 9070XT. Great card!
 
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I managed to get 2 9070xts

1 Asrock steel legend that runs kinda hot. But still within spec (92 hotspot when pushed 90 vrams)

1 GB gaming oc which seems to be a really good sample. Nice hotspot on 79c too. Rams 82c. Will go above 3400mhz

Both undervolt great, much better then RX7k series. Stock performance ( ~3000mhz) for ~ 250 watts.
U dont need a high pl card to hit nice mhz either (32-33s). Hotspot is also moot with undervolt.

I am consistently beating XTX with tuned 9070XT. Great card!
Could you look at the ASIC quality and post? Yes, the influence of this is debatable, but it would be interesting.
You can find it in the HWInfo summary:
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Don't seem to be (m)any reviews for Gigabyte Cards. I don't know if I've ever owned a Gigabyte GPU now that I think about it...

Sapphire and PowerColor are always my go to for AMD.

Edit:

My brother's RX 9070 XT Reaper is +20C for hot spot.
Gigabyte are decent also, my RX Vega 64 was a Gigabyte card :) .

From having looked at TPU reviews, the 2 XT cards reviewed so far have same VRM, I reckon most will be that config/VRM components. So differentiating them is cooling solution, power connectors, VBIOS power limit, dual VBIOS, stock boost clock, warranty.

Got this : Radeon RX 9070 XT AORUS ELITE 16GB
Still waiting for the store to get stock.
That's the one I went for. I believe it is likely the best 9700 XT. Perhaps the XFX Mercury with magnetic fans is slightly better, but certainly less attractive.
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I don't know if I'm keeping it, as it was Amazon, easy to cancel/return...

Interested to try XT BIOS on the 9070.

This all feels very reminiscent of the 290/X days. I had a beast of a reference R9 290 with flashed/modded BIOS.

I recognize @ZealotKi11er and @gupsterg from back in those days.
I'd be very surprise if anything like that works on these cards....
 
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I'd be very surprise if anything like that works on these cards....
I'd prefer to be a glass half-full kind of guy in this situation.
 
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If you don't care for any bling, then you can hardly go wrong with Sapphire Pulse. They're all business for a reasonable price.

That bracket is nifty.

The PCIe release button is the one creature comfort I wouldn't mind having since things are crowded with an NH-D15S. I've got to use an automotive trim pry tool to hit the latch on my board (n)(n)
 
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Admittedly, I've been out of the XOC game for some time...is BIOS flashing and editing not a prevalent practice any longer?

Is the power delivery the same on the Pulse? Sapphire doesn't have it listed on their site. TPU says Nitro+ is 10+3.
 
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Admittedly, I've been out of the XOC game for some time...is BIOS flashing and editing not a prevalent practice any longer?
From VEGA HW on GPU checks VBIOS signature, so VBIOS mod was out. Prior gens had VBIOS signature, but driver would check, then AMD would drop the check and VBIOS mod was open.

On Navi2x software power play was still open, but closed off on Navi3x, software power play is very old loop hole. In MSI AB Extend Overclocking Limits used that for many years.

On Navi3x VBIOS mod is dead, putting aside HW checking VBIOS signature, driver could also be checking.

On Navi4x is full UEFI VBIOS as well, no legacy.

Is the power delivery the same on the Pulse? Sapphire doesn't have it listed on their site. TPU says Nitro+ is 10+3.
Checking web, not found PCB yet :( , but @W1zzard has one :) .

Just found a HWINFO screen shot on RX 9070 XT Pulse, link. Reading from here is sticking to 304W, link.

* edit *

I think Pulse and Pure have same PCB, Pure has 317W power limit, seen on product page, plus review here.

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Pulse/cards with 2970MHz boost and 304W is basically reference card, see Computerbase link on Pure and also W1zzards reply here.

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From VEGA HW on GPU checks VBIOS signature, so VBIOS mod was out. Prior gens had VBIOS signature, but driver would check, then AMD would drop the check and VBIOS mod was open.

On Navi2x software power play was still open, but closed off on Navi3x, software power play is very old loop hole. In MSI AB Extend Overclocking Limits used that for many years.

On Navi3x VBIOS mod is dead, putting aside HW checking VBIOS signature, driver could also be checking.

On Navi4x is full UEFI VBIOS as well, no legacy.



Checking web, not found PCB yet :( , but @W1zzard has one :) .

Just found a HWINFO screen shot on RX 9070 XT Pulse, link. Reading from here is sticking to 304W, link.

* edit *

I think Pulse and Pure have same PCB, Pure has 317W power limit, seen on product page, plus review here.

* edit 2 *

Pulse/cards with 2970MHz boost and 304W is basically reference card, see Computerbase link on Pure and also W1zzards reply here.

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Oh dang...So things are very different from the last time I was seriously into messing around.

Thanks for the synopsis.

Guess I'll just have to be happy with tuning the card as is. It's still a meaningful improvement over my vanilla 4070.
 
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13700K @ 2-core 5.8 | 4-core 5.7 | 6-core 5.6 | 8-core 5.5
9070 Reaper

First few runs in 3DMark at stock/auto everything.

Time Spy Extreme keep failing at the CPU test, so I guess I have to examine my UV/OC settings. Considering I entered values once and never touched them again, that's not too bad. System has been rock solid for just shy of 2 years now.

Port Royal - 15,091 @ 69.87 FPS
Steel Nomad - 5,696 @ 56.96 FPS
Speed Way - 5,528 @ 55.29 FPS
Fire Strike Ultra - 14,933 | Graphics 14,952 @ GT1 81.05 / GT2 54.27 | Physics 36,633 @ 116.3 | Combined 7,868 @ 36.60

BenchmarkPeak CoreAvg Core ClockPeak Hot SpotDeltaPeak VRAMPeak Power
Port Royal 57 2345 74 17 92 180
Steel Nomad 56 2324 73 17 90 178
Speed Way 54 2269 68 14 92 182
Fire Strike Ultra 56 2401 72 16 88 182

VRAM temps are definitely up there, but still within spec. System is totally silent as expected.

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I bougt four Sapphires 7800XT Nitro+ for other people last year and the best one had 24C delta. Even moderate OC raised the delta pretty quickly so I guess this is normal. I would want to disassemble one and try my luck with doing the PTM job myself but couldn't.
 
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I haven't had a radeon card in so long, is it better to use the adrenalin software for overclocking/undervolting? I always used MSI for my nvidia cards
 
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Radeon has generally worked pretty well for me. In the past the core voltage adjustment didn't seem to translate directly; which was odd. This was my experience with 6900 XT and 6700 XT. Admittedly I have not had my hands on any RX 7000 products.

This appears to have been changed with RX 9000 however. Since they have changed the tuning to say "Voltage Offset (mV)" and, at least for my 9070, it only goes down to -200.

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I'm in the process of benching in 3DMark. I've honed in on +450 MHz for core clock and just started testing "Fast Timings" before I move to pushing VRAM clocks. Then it will be on to undervolting.
 
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Without exotic cooling and physical modification to the card I don't think that is possible.

Best done by TechPowerUp so far with an air cooler is the XFX Merc OC Mag Air averaging 3,244 MHz.

Will be interesting to see what water can do for these though.