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Nice to meet meet you Chipsy, kind of old school myself. Real old.

 

Thought I would kick this new thread off. Just purchased my X870E Taichi yesterday from my local Microcenter and it's still sitting in its box.

Ordered a kit from Amazon - G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 48GB (2x24GB) 5600MT/s (8000) CL40-40-40-89 1.25V - Matte Black (F5-5600J4040D24GX2-TZ5NR).

Not exactly in the QVL bit they say at the bottom not everything is listed. I think it'll be close enough.

Can't do much with all of this for a while as I'm have back surgery for a nerve issue around my lower spine - something like sciatica but different. Anyway, need to wear this back brace for a while and no lifting they said. BTW, that mobo weights a ton. 👍

Post up here how you overclocks went after you recover
I am interested in seeing how these 8000mhz frequencies and beyond affect gaming. I am not exactly a believer in high frequency for AMD as of yet, as I am running 6000mhz but 1:1 on UCLOCK, compared to UCLOCK/2 with anything beyond 6400mhz, and some 6400mhz sticks can't even do 1:1 on UCLOCK
On Intel it made a ton of sense in gaming beyond 7600mhz, as it really uplifted that gaming performance, but Infinity Fabric is still a limit on 7000 and 9000 cpus.

I think AMD is already understanding this, but they need to manufacture new design to sort this, probably not until 10000 or 11000 series, or whatever they call it

What really impressed me about Asrock X670E Taichi and I am sure X870E Taichi is that the power delivery is super clean, 24 phases really do a number on any bad eletricity ripples, and I was able to go to -30 Curve Optimizer even with default Load Line of SOC and default Load Line of VCORE

As soon as I set both to Level 1, it improved stability, and I am between -25 and -20 Curve Optimizer now, it's wonderful in that delivery.

 

I presently have the X670E Taichi with 6000 tops. I'm going to have to run the 870 with my 7950 until the 9950X3D is out, probably after the 1st of the year is what I heard. I watched a video of the X870E with 8000 RAM and it was a screamer. It's going to be interesting.

 

Today I order on Neweeg the Asrock X870E Nova , I choose this model over the Taichi and Hero because the killer price325.00 after 20.00 rebate and the future proof killer VRM with 20+2+1 Phase Power Design, 110A SPS for VCore+SOC and excellent others features that other manufacturers charge you hundreds of dollars more for that ,This board have a excellent distribution for the pcie 5 lines , cant wait to start testing and overclok my cpu and memory to get this 8000 mhz

 

Today I order on Neweeg the Asrock X870E Nova

I like the Nova and also the X870E Taichi lite. Both look good to me but the prices don't make me feel happy.
$480 and $540 CAD respectively.
I am looking forward to you posting cracking 8000 memory on the Nova.

 

good luck with the surgery and motherboard!

 

Post up here how you overclocks went after you recover
I am interested in seeing how these 8000mhz frequencies and beyond affect gaming. I am not exactly a believer in high frequency for AMD as of yet, as I am running 6000mhz but 1:1 on UCLOCK, compared to UCLOCK/2 with anything beyond 6400mhz, and some 6400mhz sticks can't even do 1:1 on UCLOCK
On Intel it made a ton of sense in gaming beyond 7600mhz, as it really uplifted that gaming performance, but Infinity Fabric is still a limit on 7000 and 9000 cpus.

I think AMD is already understanding this, but they need to manufacture new design to sort this, probably not until 10000 or 11000 series, or whatever they call it

What really impressed me about Asrock X670E Taichi and I am sure X870E Taichi is that the power delivery is super clean, 24 phases really do a number on any bad eletricity ripples, and I was able to go to -30 Curve Optimizer even with default Load Line of SOC and default Load Line of VCORE

As soon as I set both to Level 1, it improved stability, and I am between -25 and -20 Curve Optimizer now, it's wonderful in that delivery.

Thought I would kick this new thread off. Just purchased my X870E Taichi yesterday from my local Microcenter and it's still sitting in its box.

Ordered a kit from Amazon - G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 48GB (2x24GB) 5600MT/s (8000) CL40-40-40-89 1.25V - Matte Black (F5-5600J4040D24GX2-TZ5NR).

Not exactly in the QVL bit they say at the bottom not everything is listed. I think it'll be close enough.

Can't do much with all of this for a while as I'm have back surgery for a nerve issue around my lower spine - something like sciatica but different. Anyway, need to wear this back brace for a while and no lifting they said. BTW, that mobo weights a ton. 👍

Just an update:
Surgery went ok and am at home. They won't allow to to bend over or pick anything up that has considerable weight. Coffee cups and laptops are okay. Need to wear this humongous back brace for 6 weeks.

So, the RAM is do here on the 7th. Problem is no CPU. The say the 9950X3D won't be released here in the US until after the 1st of the year. My plan is to use my 7950X until then but I can't lift the dang box for a while and it's heavy when this ole man is up to it. I'll figure it out and get the kid next door to pitch in.

On another note, here's a pretty good review and quite understandable of the 870 that you many enjoy:

 

Nova looks interesting for sure

 

I like the lane layout. You can criticize that you loose the PCIe slot when using all M2s, but honestly for the use-case of these boards, probably the only PCIe slot being used will be the one for the GPU. So this layout makes a lot of sense to me. Also the board "only" has 4 SATA ports, but again, who uses these anymore. I still have a couple of drives, but 4 would be more than enough for a desktop.

 

Hey zzz, just because it's on the QVL doesn't mean it's gonna work. Case in point- I just got a 870 Taichi and 9950x and have been trying to run this DDR5-8200 from TeamGroup which is on the QVL: FFXD548G8200HC38EDC01

Anyway it was pretty unstable when I selected the XMP profile- random crashes when under no load. Then after a few crashes, it wouldn't boot at all.

So I'm gonna be looking for something else. Hope that helps.

 

The XMP profile was made for Intel CPUs - it may or may not work with AMDs. And you can't assume that it's stable. I guess you have to manually set timings for this kit.

 

Hey, got a taichi yesterday, started baseline testing
gskill 48gb 8000 cl 40 kit

 

Hey, got a taichi yesterday, started baseline testing

I would start memory testing with the TM5 1usmus rather than the y-cruncher. For now you're probably testing the processor.

 

Hey zzz, just because it's on the QVL doesn't mean it's gonna work. Case in point- I just got a 870 Taichi and 9950x and have been trying to run this DDR5-8200 from TeamGroup which is on the QVL: FFXD548G8200HC38EDC01

Anyway it was pretty unstable when I selected the XMP profile- random crashes when under no load. Then after a few crashes, it wouldn't boot at all.

So I'm gonna be looking for something else. Hope that helps.

I don't assume anything when it comes to RAM.

Hey zzz, just because it's on the QVL doesn't mean it's gonna work. Case in point- I just got a 870 Taichi and 9950x and have been trying to run this DDR5-8200 from TeamGroup which is on the QVL: FFXD548G8200HC38EDC01

Anyway it was pretty unstable when I selected the XMP profile- random crashes when under no load. Then after a few crashes, it wouldn't boot at all.

So I'm gonna be looking for something else. Hope that helps.

The RAM the I bought is not on the QVL at all, but its specs are consistent with similar brands:

G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 48GB (2x24GB) 5600MT/s CL40-40-40-89 1.25V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Matte Black (F5-5600J4040D24GX2-TZ5NR)

I'm a GSkill fan and have used it in all of projects lately. Even through this kit isn't listed in the current QVL, if you look at the caveat at the bottom of the QVL listing, ASRock says that the QVL is not all Inclusive and they haven't checked everything out there. Anyway, RAM is always a crapshoot and the above specs are close enough to give it a shot. Also, if it doesn't work out I'll go with something else. I know, new builds, new hardware and it's not easy anymore and sometimes you just have to get lucky.

 

I don't assume anything when it comes to RAM.

The RAM the I bought is not on the QVL at all, but its specs are consistent with similar brands:

G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 48GB (2x24GB) 5600MT/s CL40-40-40-89 1.25V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Matte Black (F5-5600J4040D24GX2-TZ5NR)

I'm a GSkill fan and have used it in all of projects lately. Even through this kit isn't listed in the current QVL, if you look at the caveat at the bottom of the QVL listing, ASRock says that the QVL is not all Inclusive and they haven't checked everything out there. Anyway, RAM is always a crapshoot and the above specs are close enough to give it a shot. Also, if it doesn't work out I'll go with something else. I know, new builds, new hardware and it's not easy anymore and sometimes you just have to get lucky.

Quick note:
Even though it's Sunday Amazon delivered the RAM. Too bad they won't let me pick anything up or I'd have something to say. 😗

 

@zzztopzzz how is your new build creation going?

I ordered X870e Taichi, but i can take a bit cheaper x870e Carbon,
but im more thinking about keeping Asrock board as it seems more premium.

 

@zzztopzzz how is your new build creation going?

I ordered X870e Taichi, but i can take a bit cheaper x870e Carbon,
but im more thinking about keeping Asrock board as it seems more premium.

Just stay with Taichi, it is probably the best! I am also thinking between Taichi and Nova. If one would have two memory slots, would be easier the question.

 

Does any of the Asrocks 870e boards have 1x pcie slot? For soundcard.

 

Hey Quaxi, yes, fully agree. But two RAM slots seem to be almost completely vanished.

 

For aesthetics, if you must, one can buy dummy lighted RAM modules fairly cheap. Also, there are articles concerning some electrical interference when RAM slots remaining unpopulated, especially with servers. Worth checking out. Personally, I'm going wait and see how the 48GB 8200 that I have on hand works out and may go for a full 96GB down the road.

 

Pics I've seen of the Nova have the 1x pcie slot at bottom. Sold out at usual places though.

 

I haven't seen the need for 2nd PCIe slot since the SLI/Crossfire days.

 

A question regarding the Nova. What exactly does this mean:
- "1 x Vertical M.2 Socket (Key E), supports type 2230 WiFi/BT PCIe WiFi module"

Can an extra WiFi module be installed here? Or is there a WiFi module attached to this slot and I don't have WiFi, if I use this slot for a DDS drive?

 

The Nova comes with 802.11be Wi-Fi 7 + Bluetooth so WiFi is standard and also has at least 4 M.2 slots. You may want download the ASRock X870E Nova (WiFi) spec sheet. There may be a Nova variety that come without the WiFi option. I know this doesn't answer your question, but as of now, I can't find much on it. The X870E Taichi kit doesn't have that part included.

 

Maybe make it easier.

 

Looking more at the differences the nova looks like the riptide. +the E

 

Actually i already have had Taichi in home.
I wasnt even able to mount it in my Case...
and like 100$ less Nova showed up in store in Poland.

And i took that route.

So i can live without ebclk as it gives almost nothing for me.

Finally have AsRock x870e Nova instead,
and some more money in pocket to upgrade to 9800x3d

 

Placed an order for the Taichi a moment ago and I look forward to joining this esteemed group. I'm hoping that its heralded power conditioning/handling, plus separate load line settings for both CPU and SOC, will give me the upper hand on my 192GB experiment.

 

How about your CPU, GPU, PSU and cooling?

 

BTW, that mobo weights a ton

You weren't kidding. I nearly fumbled the box on the floor after casually pulling it out of the shipping container. Label says it weighed 9.7lb!

Time to start my logical "engine swap".

 

So am probably going to pull the trigger on full Taichi board.
Also found Asrock is sourcing VRM blocks for the Intel version. I would like to watercool the VRMs on the AMD board just because. I need it on AM3+, probably don't nowadays.

But found these discrepancies today.

The intel version of the RGB Taichi is 499. Also 16 models. Z890, I didn't include X870.

 

I have the new NOVA and i like it. Great Board. I have little tweak my ram:

 

Guys I have a problem with my new taichi x870e and my ryzen 9950x.
I have a feeling the CPU is limited in some way. Let me explain better, I come from an Asus x670e HERO, in which the 9950x was installed and I had no problems whatsoever in consuming 300watts at full load and reaching the limit also in terms of temperatures.
This is not possible with this motherboard. Do you know if by any chance there is a hidden function in the bios or something similar? Let me start by saying that before writing I tried everything, both automatic and manual, I also followed guides thinking I was missing something.
Could it be an immature bios? Nothing the CPU goes up to a certain amount and doesn't go higher than that.

 

Guys I have a problem with my new taichi x870e and my ryzen 9950x.

Similarly, I had a 9950X, Gen 5 SSD, GeForce 1030, and 192GB functioning in a ROG STRIX X670E-E. I transferred everything to my newly acquired X870E Taichi yesterday and was met with a series of unusual behaviors. My purchase better be defective, otherwise there's no justification for how poorly this turned out. Not even 24 hours after receiving it, the board is back in its container and in the hands of UPS. Instead of testing and tuning this weekend, I have to wait until the vendor receives my board and dispatches its replacement.

Right off the bat, the "MOS fan" was unnerving. Its motor made a noise that resembled what one might hear when an AIO pump is failing or straining. The noise continued when I removed the AIO wire from the header, so at least my AIO wasn't the problem. The low-pitched "buzzing" characteristic of the MOS fan sound just triggered my brain to think that something isn't right.

When I installed all of the aforementioned components, I did so with the intention of hearing a series of beeps (just to check how well it'd take 192GB up front) more than anything. Instead, while I watched the Dr. Debug go through all of its codes, the board simply shut off. Obviously, I had thermal paste and solid contact with my AIO, but that shutdown sure looked like a thermal runaway.

I decided to go down to 1 DIMM. Same problem. It wasn't until I removed the SSD and the dGPU that I finally got a POST and a solid beep. However, even then, I'd suddenly lose the USB port where my logitech keyboard dongle was inserted. The board detected the JEDEC settings from my DIMM, but was apparently so unstable that I could not even poke through the BIOS settings fast enough before the screen would black out or freeze. One on occasion, I managed to change the RAM speed to 3600 (as that's what the ASUS board liked) but the same weird shutdown behaviour appeared. The voltage and thermal readings all appeared to be nominal before saving and resetting. For this thing not to be able to POST properly with one stick at 3600?!? Wow.

The BIOS on my board was the very first release from July 2024. I had to use the flashback feature to get the latest version installed, because it was just not happening with "Instant Flash". This did not improve the issue with the SSD, however occasionally I could almost POST when the dGPU was installed. With just the CPU and either 1, 2, or 4 DIMMs, and among different DIMMs (one of my 48GB Corsair sticks, and one 16GB 6000MT/s G.Skill) POSTing was maybe a 30% chance.

I plugged the power supply into a watt-meter to try to get an idea of what was going on. When the board would fail to POST, or get halfway and black out/freeze, I'd see the power level hang below 68W. Same thing would happen after attempting an Instant Flash (with the indicator being stuck at 0%). Meanwhile, when it came to those "shutdown" issues, I'd see the power consumption gradually rise from 70W, slowly through 80, 90, 100... and by 130-150W (and often near "00" on the Dr. Debug) that's the moment the board shut off. If I hit the power button again, the shutdown usually repeated. If I shut off the power supply and waited to power up, maybe 2 out of 5 times I could get it to POST or give me some other error response.

The board would either not POST or it would hang at the "Asrock" logo and go no further, if my Crucial T700 SSD was plugged in. Didn't matter what m.2 port.

Now I'm a little bit annoyed, but I'm gonna have to reassemble my ROG Strix X670E-E with the 9950X to make sure I didn't cause harm to the CPU and the other components that the Asrock did not seem to cooperate with.

 

Surely in your case the motherboard had problems. In my case everything works fine. However- I'm going crazy because- I can't get my 9950x on this card to exceed 260 watts. It's absurd. For the rest, compared to the Asus x670 Hero, it is much better in terms of loading times and speed in general. The bios is also easy and understandable. I remember when I got the Asus a few years ago there were only problems for months, then little by little the bios recovered and made the card excellent. Let's hope it happens like this here too. Having a top of the range MB with the legs cut off is not nice.

 

Isn’t possible the contact between the processor and the cooler isn’t so well as previously, so the thermal paste didn’t spread evenly or you use less good paste and therefore the processor reaching it’s thermal limit earlier?

Anyway arrived mine too,

 

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