[jigzaw]

Bit the bullet and got a FX8370 with Wraith cooler AU$ off. Just placed the turbo multiplier to 22x from 21.5 with core voltage set at 1.3V. i7xxxxK series is a souped-up version but for a 140W socket 2011V3, the FX8370 is not shabby. KeyShot with 55.6 FPS at stock 20x,

 

[jclafi]

My ageing FX-8350 results... Daily overclock .....


AMD FX-8350 (2012 batch)

 

[xmanrigger]

Hey guys, I havent used CPUZ for some time. I logged in and found a completely new format to the site. I also noticed the majority of my submissions are missing. Anyone else have this issue? if so, were you able to find them? Very frustrating as I wanted to reference some nice overclocks I had done so I could use them again for benching, but they seem to have disappeared. Particularly my 5.0+ghz overclocks.

Any ideas? I submitted them as 'xmanrigger'.

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigzaw

Bit the bullet and got a FX8370 with Wraith cooler AU$ off. Just placed the turbo multiplier to 22x from 21.5 with core voltage set at 1.3V. i7xxxxK series is a souped-up version but for a 140W socket 2011V3, the FX8370 is not shabby. KeyShot with 55.6 FPS at stock 20x,

I hardly think any S2011 CPU (X79 or X99) is a 'souped up version' of any AMD CPU. Completely different animal. That is like saying a Chevy Corvette is just a 'souped up version' of a Dodge Neon. Or did I misunderstand your post?

 

[jigzaw]

Yep, you did. I am referring to the i3, i5, i7 1151 series and the premium 2011 socket with its K series. As the i7 socket 1151K has higher ipc than the i7 2011 3.3 and 3.6.

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigzaw

Yep, you did. I am referring to the i3, i5, i7 1151 series and the premium 2011 socket with its K series. As the i7 socket 1151K has higher ipc than the i7 2011 3.3 and 3.6.

Show me a realworld benchmark by any AMD CPU that will beat my 3930K then please. I will happily run it and disprove your theory. Asus Realbench V2 (or any version for that matter) might be a good place to start.

EDIT: Better yet, how about running RealBench and Unique Heaven at same time and post those numbers?

 

[SuperZan]

I'm pretty sure all he's saying is that he got the stock performance of a much more expensive processor at a relative bargain. There's nothing wrong with that, and having owned several Vishera chips as well as the 3930k in the rig on which I'm typing, they're all decent CPU's. Yes, the overclocked 3930k will win synthetics and has more total performance headroom, but for a CPU+cooler+motherboard outlay that comes out to less than I paid for the 3930k when it was new, Vishera is a nice system if you're not going to use twelve threads.

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperZan

I'm pretty sure all he's saying is that he got the stock performance of a much more expensive processor at a relative bargain. There's nothing wrong with that, and having owned several Vishera chips as well as the 3930k in the rig on which I'm typing, they're all decent CPU's. Yes, the overclocked 3930k will win synthetics and has more total performance headroom, but for a CPU+cooler+motherboard outlay that comes out to less than I paid for the 3930k when it was new, Vishera is a nice system if you're not going to use twelve threads.

Yes, more headroom and more raw Horsepower. The 3930K will overclock well and safely on practically any motherboard you can stuff it in as well. There are reasons I paid a premium for this CPU. Longevity was one of them. I originally built this system at the time of the 3930K's initial release. Other than it's S2011x successors, there pretty much aint nothin that will all around, out-perform it even still.

 

[jigzaw]

Ok, this is misunderstood out there. I am not saying that my system beat those processors, what I did imply is that it is not a bad processor at all. For the price range it works for the task at hand. I am contemplating on getting i7-6800K but don't have the resources to do so at the moment but when the workload requires it, this will be my move. But from the looks of it I should aim for a i7-6850K overall for 3D CAD and KeyShot. The 1151 i7-6700K's ipc will out run this 2 socket 2011 on 3D CAD but fall behind KeyShot because of the extra threads. It seems the single core IPC hasn't translated for IPC for all cores running yet without overclocking or other enhancements. So I am trying to average the performance gain and cost that will deliver in the end. So currently the simple upgrade isn't bad.

 

[superstition222]

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmanrigger

Show me a realworld benchmark by any AMD CPU that will beat my 3930K then please.

Not exactly the 3930K but...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1555286/gta-5-is-fx-8350-bottlenecking-my-gtx-970/30#post_25666143

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstition222

Not exactly the 3930K but...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1555286/gta-5-is-fx-8350-bottlenecking-my-gtx-970/30#post_25666143

Bring it on. You got some numbers to post yourself, or just something you found on the net? Back it up. Lets do bench for bench here and post the results. Any clock speed open. 4700mhz is a safe everyday-all day long speed for the 3930K, so why not let us start there. Part of my argument is the 3930K will safely run overclocked relatively high on practically any board it will fit. So whatever speed the CPU is run at, is an irrelevant argument.

Another downfall is the amount of $$$$ AMD die-hard enthusiasts had to spend and how often they have had to uprade their systems with whatever best AMD offering was available from S2011 release (leagues below S2011), and whatever AMD releases up to present, just to try and keep up with later lessor releases from Intel. And to still be under par of a 5 year old CPU. I bet that cost was a hell of a lot more than I spent on original CPU+MOBO. So, was it a premium I paid, or money well spent?

You pick the benchmarks.

 

[Kryton]

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmanrigger

Bring it on. You got some numbers to post yourself, or just something you found on the net? Back it up. Lets do bench for bench here and post the results. Any clock speed open. 4700mhz is a safe everyday-all day long speed for the 3930K, so why not let us start there.

Not a bad idea but we already know how it will end so it's a useless arguement if wanting to say which would come out on top, rather a more useful thing would be for simply comparing the differences between the two.
Quote:

Originally Posted by xmanrigger

Part of my argument is the 3930K will safely run overclocked relatively high on practically any board it will fit. So whatever speed the CPU is run at, is an irrelevant argument.

Do you mean the 3930K here or just any chip in general?
Quote:

Originally Posted by xmanrigger

Another downfall is the amount of $$$$ AMD die-hard enthusiasts had to spend and how often they have had to uprade their systems with whatever best AMD offering was available from S2011 release (leagues below S2011), and whatever AMD releases up to present, just to try and keep up with later lessor releases from Intel. And to still be under par of a 5 year old CPU.

Been running AMD as my DD for years now and didn't have to spend a fortune to make it do what I needed it to, For my useage it isn't about keeping up with Intel at all.
Did a new DD build last spring with the budget to have built at least a 5950X or even better CPU in with a matching OC'ing board if I wanted to but coudn't justify the expense of sinking over $2000+ in just the CPU and board alone to myself. Going instead with an AMD build saved me a ton of $$ and even with extra stuff thrown in was way cheaper - I guess it's if you really want to have the baddest thing on the block then you'd have it with a setup like yours or what I was comtemplating. I'm not racing against Intel or trying to keep up, it's a case of fulfilling my needs and this build has done that with ease.
BTW I do have a few Intel setups here including a 3770K with an ASRock OC Formula here I could run if I want, that clearly would have met the needs I have but it's for a different useage (Benching) than simple daily use. Even after running one of my 1155 setups (2600K with a Asus MIVE) for DD use I didn't see anything that would make me want to go strictly Intel, they actually did about the same for my useage.
Quote:

Originally Posted by xmanrigger

I bet that cost was a hell of a lot more than I spent on original CPU+MOBO. So, was it a premium I paid, or money well spent?

For an Intel it's actually both.

You did pay a premium but at the same time it was money well spent based on long-term viability of the components if nothing else.
In short there is nothing wrong with either one, the wants and needs of the user are what matters and if the user is OK with what they have, that's what matters. At the end of the day they'll both still do the same thing with Intel being faster overall - If that's the need you have then go for it, if not do as you will.
I did.

 

[miklkit]

Hmm. The 3930K is selling for over $600 right now today. Then someone is bragging about it beating a $150 AMD cpu. The question is, is it beating the AMD by 400%? No?

So how much does it beat AMD by? 10% 20% Certainly not 400% For most users most of the time AMD is the better choice. It delivers the best bang for the buck year after year.

You just keep grabbing your ankles there fella.

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by miklkit

Hmm. The 3930K is selling for over $600 right now today. Then someone is bragging about it beating a $150 AMD cpu. The question is, is it beating the AMD by 400%? No?

So how much does it beat AMD by? 10% 20% Certainly not 400% For most users most of the time AMD is the better choice. It delivers the best bang for the buck year after year.

You just keep grabbing your ankles there fella.

It did 5 years ago and will today. Cant say that for AMD.

 

[miklkit]

OIC. You are ok with being raped. Keep on grabbing your ankles. 400% more cost for 10% more performance.

 

[mirzet1976]

Here is my daily clock



Max OC

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirzet1976

Here is my daily clock



Max OC

Hmmmm. DL'd latest CPUZ as I didnt have the above version. Not grabbing my ankles, wagging my dick.







So now, back to Real world. If video encoding or doing any other CPU intensive operation(s) that the average Joe (consumer/pro) is going to be doing, which CPU would you use Miklkit? Higher clock speeds with lower voltage. Oh ya, did I mention anything about performance and the fact this CPU is 5 yrs old and been thru the mill? Hell, my memory isnt even running at full speed.

EDIT: Threw this in for ****sNgiggles RealBench V2.44

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjames61

Why are you in the AMD forum? Please go into the Intel forum and stop antagonizing everyone here. It took you all of a dozen posts to alienate everyone.

To answer:

1) Didnt realize AMD only until I read your post. My apologies.

2) I was called out. I backed up my original comment, which was to correct mis-information.

Again, my apologies. "Cant we all just get along?" LOL

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, could someone please post the CPUZ benchmark results for a FX-9590?

TIA, 'rigger

 

[SuperZan]

You didn't correct any 'misinformation', though. If anything you introduced it. The guy you responded to pointed out that for less money than we paid for our 3930k's alone when they were new, someone can buy a Vishera processor, OC it, and get Intel HEDT STOCK performance. It wasn't an introduction to a direct competition; if anything it was a tacit admission that once overclocked and tuned a Vishera won't beat an Intel HEDT processor in synthetics. That doesn't mean the FX is a bad buy or anything of the sort. The 3930k was a great buy when it was released but I wouldn't advise buying it now given that we're about to be a couple of sockets removed from its prime.

The 3930k is great. I love mine. Everybody knows what it can do and it hardly needed your.. impassioned defence.

I also love my Vishy's and they are great performers for the price.

 

[xmanrigger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperZan

You didn't correct any 'misinformation', though. If anything you introduced it. The guy you responded to pointed out that for less money than we paid for our 3930k's alone when they were new, someone can buy a Vishera processor, OC it, and get Intel HEDT STOCK performance. It wasn't an introduction to a direct competition; if anything it was a tacit admission that once overclocked and tuned a Vishera won't beat an Intel HEDT processor in synthetics. That doesn't mean the FX is a bad buy or anything of the sort. The 3930k was a great buy when it was released but I wouldn't advise buying it now given that we're about to be a couple of sockets removed from its prime.

The 3930k is great. I love mine. Everybody knows what it can do and it hardly needed your.. impassioned defence.

I also love my Vishy's and they are great performers for the price.

I will leave it at this:

OK, I misread. I will admit it. Drunk at time of original post, but not an excuse. I didnt re-read his original comment I replied to, I continued on from where I left off. So again, my bad.

I will agree with you if concidering buying a brand new 3930K. But I would still opt for a used 3930K before I bought any AMD offering. I have seen 3930K used as low as $250.

I still would like to see the numbers from a FX-9590 out of curiosity.

Cheers to my AMD friends........if I have any left here. LOL