You see the most complaints about Asus because it has the biggest user base(at least on this forum look at Asus threads vs MSI and other manufactures threads). All ddr5 MB manufacture have similar issues.

Go with z790 MB if you go ddr5, they do better running higher clocks than z690 ddr5 MB. I think something like a Hero should run 2x32 at 6000 to 6400 fairly easy.

Look at the Gskill QVL list, not that I trust QVL list but I would put more faith into it than the manufactures. F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK - QVL - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Or their ram configurator for a MB your interested in RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

 

You see the most complaints about Asus because it has the biggest user base(at least on this forum look at Asus threads vs MSI and other manufactures threads). All ddr5 MB manufacture have similar issues.

Go with z790 MB if you go ddr5, they do better running higher clocks than z690 ddr5 MB. I think something like a Hero should run 2x32 at 6000 to 6400 fairly easy.

I'm fine with that, the money difference isn't a big deal breaker, but I read multiple reports of Asus Z790 not even POSTing with DDR5 6000, that's why I'm asking here. Of course you could be right in that they sell more boards, but I wanted to get this community's take on the situation. I'd be fine with a 6000 kit, I'd like to get the fastest setup I can at this time without RMA-ing half of the build later to downgrade to DDR4, if that makes sense.

 

Are you planning on overclokcing much? Hero doesn't make much sense if you don't.

Most Z790 boards can do 1DPC 2R at 6800+, so I don't see why 6000 would be an issue. AMD has a weaker IMC, so they are stuck at 6200-6400 due to cpu constraints. ntel has boards going up to 7800+ but you will need to manually set them up as those are crazy OC values. XMP just means the settings have been tested by the manufacturer, that does not mean it is just plug-and-play on any board.

DDR4 is not a downgrade, DDR5 is not at a point yet where it performs any better. This is the biggest miss on the current AMD AM5 boards, especially since their IMC is so far behind even of that of Intel.

 

To give you an idea, I'm still on a overclocked 4790K on a Hero VII board, so I'm so far behind the curve that I'd probably be happy with a newer toaster. But on a serious note, I'm trying to build a video editing rig that can also play some games, and since I haven't spent money on build in a very long time, I'm ok to try to go after the latest and greatest at this point. The reason I was looking at the Hero board specifically is that it has Thunderbolt connections on the back and I like Asus' Aura out of all the RGB software I've seen. Since they don't make a DDR4 version, that's what pushed me to DDR5. If everything could remain stable, I would definitely tinker with overclocking the 13900K, after all what's the point of a K processor otherwise?

If I go DDR4, I think the MSI Tomahawk is looking promising, but that is currently my backup. I think with DDR4 the 13900K can handle 4x16 without noticeable problems compared to 2x32, correct? I'm asking since I'd be looking at two fast 2x16 kits at that point probably.

I also realize XMP doesn't necessarily mean plug-and-play, but I'm trying to see if I can still achieve that.

 

Plenty of people running DDR4 64 Gb over 4000 Mhz G1 on this forum.

4x16 is only realistically doable with Micron Rev B as it is SR, but this ram is no longer made.

2x32 Gb decent DDR4 is very difficult to find new, again Micron Rev B was and still remains the best ram for either 4x16 or 2x32.

If you don't already have it, you are going to struggle to find it. DDR5 2x32 6400 is BETTER than DDR4 2x32 3600.

DDR4 2x32 / 4x16 4000+ is better than most 64 Gb DDR5 configurations, as it is extremely difficult to get 7000+ DDR5 with 2x32 or 4x16.

So unless you can find 64 Gb DDR4 that can push 4000+ low timings, you are much better off going for DDR5 2x32 6400.

 

Again, my preference would be to go DDR5, I just got scared by the reports I found, some on Reddit (yeah, I know...) and some on dedicated forums. If the consensus here is that I can get a Z790 Hero board and should be able to XMP that G.Skill 6400 (or 6000) memory, then I'm willing to roll that dice. But if the consensus is that I'll struggle to get it running on XMP, I'd like to know.

You say DD4 is hard to find, but wouldn't this fit my bill, for example? G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C18D-64GTZR - Newegg.com

 

I hope your not talking about the people trying to run 4x16 on ddr5 6000+ and using them as examples. Because the z690/z790 are daisy chain and will struggle with 4 dim vs 2. This has been known for a long time about daisy chain vs t topology.

2x32 will be easier to run on ddr4 or ddr5 z690/z790.

I cant say I have seen people having issues running ddr5 past 6000 on z790 MBs. There might be some but it is not common.

 

.I hope your not talking about the people trying to run 4x16 on ddr5 6000+ and using them as examples. Because the z690/z790 are daisy chain and will struggle with 4 dim vs 2. This has been known for a long time about daisy chain vs t topology.

2x32 will be easier to run on ddr4 or ddr5 z690/z790.

I cant say I have seen people having issues running ddr5 past 6000 on z790 MBs. There might be some but it is not common.

That's a valid point, and I've been trying to make sure I'm not looking at the 4x configurations, but here is one thread of a guy claiming failure with DDR5 6400 2x32:

I've seen a few others, some on tom's hardware forum, and one other I can't find.

 

I thought you were talking about people post in the Asus z790 thread about running ddr5 past 6000. Like I said if I went off the whole internet I could find people who have issues with everything.

Edit from what i have seen in general Asus, MSI and Gigabyte are all doing pretty good with z790 ddr5. Not many run 2x32 so feedback about that is limited.

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Some colleagues and I have had no issues getting 7800mhz ddr5 on z790 hero with 13900k.

Asus have best bios, best ongoing support, actual bios engineers you can tag in this forum and they will respond, biggest userbase so therefore most resources avaiable.

If you don't midn paying Asus tax, then its an easy recommend.

 

Right, that's basically why I'm an Asus fanboy. Although I didn't realize their commitment to the users to the degree you described, it always did feel like their products have the most care and polish. So I'm glad the community here agrees.

 

X61 was able to clock 2x32 to 7200 instead of 6600 by switching to asus z790 apex (from msi pro z790-p)

A poor guy couldn't even get 2x32 stable at 6400 (msi z790-A, 13700K)

So while 2x32 has can go a lot higher stable with intel this is far from guaranteed.

 

why would you spend all this money on Z790 & 13900K & 6400 DDR5 and use iGPU?!
QuickSync isnt all that you know, most low end GPU will piss over Intel QuickSync on video encoding / decoding

 

I don't think you understand what I was saying. Software like DaVinci Resolve can use both the iGPU and the dGPU a the same time for various operations. For example, the iGPU allows for butter-smooth timeline navigation with specific codecs.

 

6400 MHz DDR5 on a Z690 Strix E here. It will run this speed with XMP (I've never had any POST issues with either this kit or the 5600 kit that preceded it), but I have timings set manually.

 

6400 MHz DDR5 on a Z690 Strix E here. It will run this speed with XMP (I've never had any POST issues with either this kit or the 5600 kit that preceded it), but I have timings set manually.

Right, but that's 2x16, I was asking about 2x32. Fortunately since then I got the 6400 2x32 GB kit to run in XMP 1 and 2, and it seems stable. I haven't tried to push it harder yet, but that's the next step.

 

Yes, Z790 Hero Maximus, I can't select XMP or XMP2 with my 6600s, I have to manually lower it to 6000, for Corsair 64-bit 4x16 RAM
So I bought 600 MHz too much for nothing.
They don't pass the test with XMP, manually maxing out at 6000 is all good.

 

Yes, Z790 Hero Maximus, I can't select XMP or XMP2 with my 6600s, I have to manually lower it to 6000, for Corsair 64-bit 4x16 RAM

Running two 32GB of 64GB (total) GSkill's on my Z790 Steel Legend.

They are set at 6400Mhz speed, no deviation whatsoever running them on XMP setting (from GSkill).

Never had any problems when using any memory sets from that Manufacturer, my personal favourite in the World today.

 

Yes, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, I can't select XMP or XMP2 with my 6600, I have to manually lower it to 6000, for SWQL for Corsair 64Mhz 4x16 RAM
So I bought 600 MHz too much for nothing.
They don't pass the test with XMP, manually maxing out at 6000 is all good.

 

Good for you, you're lucky. Corsair SVQL, a very good brand of 4x16, doesn't work for me. I have to stop at 6000 instead of XMP at 6600 by default.

I also wasted money on TEAM DDR5 64GB sets. Both of them wouldn't run at their 6400Mhz designated speed. Instead, I was forced to noble them down to 6000Mhz. So yes, even I get screwed by some memory manufacturers with their bogus claims.

GSkill never lies when it states the actual speed on their packaging. Hence, my instant fanboy love for this manufacturer. They have never failed me ever, and I've been buying GSkill for over a decade.

But, I don't have Steel Legend.

Substandard compared to an Asus Board simply because they have the world's best BIOS. Truly jealous despite having another manufacturer's board.

Only bought it because it supports 8 Sata connections for cheap and their IO plate provides extras that I use on my desktop.

It's an Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero.

Damn fine bit of kit there . YOU need to get some GSkill's, and you will enjoy the performance and reliability.

Never go cheap on memory because you will pay in other ways.......