[Xaris]

Cooler is definitely fine, worked as expected on the 3700X. He also repasted twice (correction, thrice) already with Kryonaut, so that shouldn't be it either. Cooler also most definitely doesn't have a plastic foil on it. Fans etc are running plus one CR20 run shouldn't saturate the water either.

I don't know then. Sounds like it's overheating not drawing down temps fast enough and then throttling downwards.

That said he can try a few things and even use the 1usmus Power Plan (works for Zen3 just fine):

• Global C-state Control = Enabled
• Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle
• CPPC = Enabled
• CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled
• AMD Cool'n'Quiet = Enabled
• PPC Adjustment = PState 0

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Leave CPB on. Put PBO on Manual, use Motherboard/Auto Limits, use a low offset like +100mhz, and then go into Curve Optimizer to undervolt it, say -15 to all cores as a starting point and see what that takes it.

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Yeah then grab a DAC it is.

I really like my Modi 3+ + Magni and combo though it'll be $200 total. Headphone only though if that's a dealbreaker (I use an USB Mic myself so I don't need an Mic-in jack). If you wanted an cheaper all-in-one DAC/AMP unit with microphone and headphone jack for a good price that has good sound quality, Fulla is quite nice for $99 Schiit Audio: Audio Products Designed and Built in California and a very good budget option. If you want a n even more budget option: Monolith by Monoprice USB DAC - Monoprice.com but I'd rather just spring for the Fulla at that point unless you need the tiny footprint.

Not sure how shipping to EU is.

Depends on audiophile you want to get though, I'm sure you could find some $20 things.

Anything else you could suggest? So that I have more choices to look for

also this is how my cable management looks like because of ducking Silverstone RL06. Can’t place them all behind mobo on the other side but at least it looks cool with all RGB on

 

[Xaris]

Anything else you could suggest? So that I have more choices to look for

also this is how my cable management looks like because of ducking Silverstone RL06. Can’t place them all behind mobo on the other side but at least it looks cool with all RGB on

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Not really, i'm not an expert at all on the stuff, just what I have and know people who've had. It really depends on how deep down the audiophile rabbet hole you wanted to go down and/or if you NEED a mic-in jack or just headphone-out jack, if you wanted an all-in-one unit or a separate DAC/AMP, and what your budget is. I would google Reddit posts, like this kind of stuff Reddit posts about DACs and AMPS.

Looks nice and clean. Mine is an absolute disaster but hey it's out of sight, out of mind.

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Not really, i'm not an expert at all on the stuff, just what I have and know people who've had. It really depends on how deep down the audiophile rabbet hole you wanted to go down and/or if you NEED a mic-in jack or just headphone-out jack, if you wanted an all-in-one unit or a separate DAC/AMP, and what your budget is. I would google Reddit posts, like this kind of stuff Reddit posts about DACs and AMPS.

Looks nice and clean. Mine is an absolute disaster but hey it's out of sight, out of mind.

Thank you for everything. I’m looking for headphone only DAC/AMP. I have USB mic with its own soundcard and settings.

 

[Xaris]

Thank you for everything. I’m looking for headphone only DAC/AMP. I have USB mic with its own soundcard and settings.

Good luck! It's nice to have a good one anyways.

You're probably sick of this, but could you run ZenTimings and paste the result? ZenTimings

I was doing some Googling and it looks like all the stuff I could find was stuff you already tried (i.e. turning PCIE to Gen3) so that's not h. And did you try turning of Spread Spectrum Control?

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Good luck! It's nice to have a good one anyways.

You're probably sick of this, but could you run ZenTimings and paste the result? ZenTimings

I was doing some Googling and it looks like all the stuff I could find was stuff you already tried (i.e. turning PCIE to Gen3) so that's not h. And did you try turning of Spread Spectrum Control?

There we go

Spread Spectrum Control?Haven't heard of it, so probably haven't tried.

 

[Xaris]

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There we go

Spread Spectrum Control?Haven't heard of it, so probably haven't tried.

It's under Tweaker Tab, just below CPU Clock Frequency at the top. I doubt it will fix anything though, the only thing it does is disable some noise in the clock, was just curious.

Uhhh what the... something seems VERY broke there. Why is that coming up with NaN and infinity on the clocks? 1.25V on CCD? 40V on IOD?? Is it running as an Administrator? It should look like this:

Very not looking right. What if you select #1 at the bottom?

Do you have a Trusted Platform Module or something running in the BIOS?

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

It's under Tweaker Tab, just below CPU Clock Frequency at the top. I doubt it will fix anything though, the only thing it does is disable some noise in the clock, was just curious.

Uhhh what the... something seems VERY broke there. Why is that coming up with NaN and infinity on the clocks? 1.25V on CCD? 40V on IOD?? Is it running as an Administrator? It should look like this:
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Very not looking right. What if you select #1 at the bottom?

Don't have #1, only two #0s

Okay. This explains why changing XMP did nothing to sound. Feels like my IF doesn't exist.

Oh boy, i guess its time for another troubleshooting!

 

[Xaris]

Err my bad, it'd be two #0s.... yeah no idea.. I can't find anything about why it wouldn't display that stuff. What about HWINFO64? Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Err my bad, it'd be two #0s.... yeah no idea.. I can't find anything about why it wouldn't display that stuff. What about HWINFO64? Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS
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[Xaris]

Huh okay, I guess that looks fine actually. Well if you got the time on your hands, I could say the very last thing to try would be

Tweaker:

• Turn off Spread Spectrum
• Set CPU Clock to 100.00
• At the very bottom there's a button to set Loadline Calibration, try setting both CPU/VSOC LLC to Normal, or set them both to High.

--> Try that first. See if it does anything

Then:

• Turn off XMP
• Set Memory Multiplier to 36.00
• DRAM Voltage 1.35V
• under Advanced Memory Settings set:

• TCL 16
• tRCDWD/tRCDR/tRP = 20
• TRAS = 40
• tCWL = 16
• Leave all secondary on Auto
• 
  
• Command Rate 1T
• 
  
• ProcODT 53
• RTT_NOM Disabled
• RTT_WR Disabled
• RTT_Park RZQ/5

Settings - AMD OC Menu:

• DDR Frequency -> Set Memory to Manual -> Memory Clock 1800
• Infinity Fabric Frequency - Set Manual to 1800

I think you've already got VSOC and stuff set as before so those seem fine

See if that does anything at all. If it does you can try Manual Timing the rest of them:

Overall though I think it's just a bunk sound controller.

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Huh okay, I guess that looks fine actually. Well if you got the time on your hands, I could say the very last thing to try would be

Tweaker:

• Turn off Spread Spectrum
• Set CPU Clock to 100.00
• At the very bottom there's a button to set Loadline Calibration, try setting both CPU/VSOC LLC to Normal, or set them both to High.

--> Try that first. See if it does anything

Then:

• Turn off XMP
• Set Memory Multiplier to 36.00
• DRAM Voltage 1.35V
• under Advanced Memory Settings set:

• TCL 16
• tRCDWD/tRCDR/tRP = 20
• TRAS = 40
• tCWL = 16
• Leave all secondary on Auto
• 
  
• Command Rate 1T
• 
  
• ProcODT 53
• RTT_NOM Disabled
• RTT_WR Disabled
• RTT_Park RZQ/5

Settings - AMD OC Menu:

• DDR Frequency -> Set Memory to Manual -> Memory Clock 1800
• Infinity Fabric Frequency - Set Manual to 1800

I think you've already got VSOC and stuff set as before so those seem fine

See if that does anything at all. If it does you can try Manual Timing the rest of them:

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Overall though I think it's just a bunk sound controller.

Are these the right timings? RCDR and RCDW especially because everything looks complicated to me ahahah

 

[Dreams-Visions]

welp, been running F31o for a few days now. Rock solid, no stability issues with my 5950X.

I haven't spent any time doing tuning in bios yet. Probably won't until I set up my open loop.

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Huh okay, I guess that looks fine actually. Well if you got the time on your hands, I could say the very last thing to try would be

Tweaker:

• Turn off Spread Spectrum
• Set CPU Clock to 100.00
• At the very bottom there's a button to set Loadline Calibration, try setting both CPU/VSOC LLC to Normal, or set them both to High.

--> Try that first. See if it does anything

Then:

• Turn off XMP
• Set Memory Multiplier to 36.00
• DRAM Voltage 1.35V
• under Advanced Memory Settings set:

• TCL 16
• tRCDWD/tRCDR/tRP = 20
• TRAS = 40
• tCWL = 16
• Leave all secondary on Auto
• 
  
• Command Rate 1T
• 
  
• ProcODT 53
• RTT_NOM Disabled
• RTT_WR Disabled
• RTT_Park RZQ/5

Settings - AMD OC Menu:

• DDR Frequency -> Set Memory to Manual -> Memory Clock 1800
• Infinity Fabric Frequency - Set Manual to 1800

I think you've already got VSOC and stuff set as before so those seem fine

See if that does anything at all. If it does you can try Manual Timing the rest of them:

View attachment 2468713

Overall though I think it's just a bunk sound controller.

This is how it looks now after all those settings tuned.
Sound issues are still there. I will order FX-Audio DAC-X6 tomorrow to have better soundcard than what I currently have...

 

[dr.Rafi]

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It didn’t help. Crackles/popping are still there.

that vddg ccd should be 990 or 1000

 

[Xaris]

that vddg ccd should be 990 or 1000

I mean yeah you can run it at that and it's safe to try it, but if stock timings @ CCD don't fix it at 900, then probably nothing will. On average most people run it at 950mV Zen RAM Overclocking

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

I mean yeah you can run it at that and it's safe to try it, but if stock timings @ CCD don't fix it at 900, then probably nothing will. On average most people run it at 950mV Zen RAM Overclocking

Hm. Did we do something with CPU? It runs 5C hotter (around 70C) than my usual (65C) under heavy load.

 

[hotripper]

welp, been running F31o for a few days now.

Now if AMD could just design a power plan that doesnt have the CPU sawtooth temps, then I wouldnt have to run a custom plan anymore.

 

[Xaris]

Hm. Did we do something with CPU? It runs 5C hotter (around 70C) than my usual (65C) under heavy load.

Not that I can think of, most of it had to do with DRAM. CCD provides some more voltage to the controller but I'm not sure it would have much of an impact. Since none of it fixed the problem anyways, feel free just to do a BIOS reset to defaults.

Also don't forget these settings under Tweaker -> Advanced CPU Settings are generally recommended all around. Maybe they got reset:

• Global C-state Control = Enabled
• Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle
• CPPC = Enabled
• CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled
• AMD Cool'n'Quiet = Enabled
• PPC Adjustment = PState 0

edit: Maybe maybe the changes to Loadline Calibration. Could turn those back to Auto since it didn't fix the problem.

 

[Efraine Rhyder]

Not that I can think of, most of it had to do with DRAM. CCD provides some more voltage to the controller but I'm not sure it would have much of an impact. Since none of it fixed the problem anyways, feel free just to do a BIOS reset to defaults.

Also don't forget these settings under Tweaker -> Advanced CPU Settings are generally recommended all around. Maybe they got reset:

• Global C-state Control = Enabled
• Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle
• CPPC = Enabled
• CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled
• AMD Cool'n'Quiet = Enabled
• PPC Adjustment = PState 0

edit: Maybe maybe the changes to Loadline Calibration. Could turn those back to Auto since it didn't fix the problem.

Alright. I’ll set it up.

got a question - that BIOS image you provided - F31j - my MoBo says it’s invalid got another version to download?