AMD rly only needs 2 CPU's

8350 for highend and $150

4300 for lowend and $75

All the other CPUs need to go.

 

It's okay. It hits the price to performance sweet spot for affordable gaming. It probably won't be bought by the average OCN user. The same could be said for a lot of AMD's CPU lineup.

 

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Originally Posted by d0mini

It's okay. It hits the price to performance sweet spot for affordable gaming. It probably won't be bought by the average OCN user. The same could be said for a lot of AMD's CPU lineup.

Because everyone wants to pay $300 for a cpu to play at 1080P.

 

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Originally Posted by dieanotherday

AMD rly only needs 2 CPU's

8350 for highend and $150

4300 for lowend and $75

All the other CPUs need to go.

Wrong socket.

 

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Originally Posted by drBlahMan

Your thoughts

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To mirror the sentiment from dieanotherday:

AMD has way to many skus for the system builders segment. The under $100 market is already AMDs (intel virtually non existent here). They are scalping their own tickets.

 

Very good CPU for 90% of the gamers out there. I have 860K on my brothers PC and he loves its. Much better then buying a Intel CPU at this price range.

 

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Because everyone wants to pay $300 for a cpu to play at 1080P.

Because the majority of active members on OCN do spend that much and more for various builds. Don't you agree?

Take the entirety of the PC gaming community and sure, $300 is too much for a CPU. Here, it's pretty standard.

 

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Originally Posted by d0mini

Because the majority of active members on OCN do spend that much and more for various builds. Don't you agree?

Take the entirety of the PC gaming community and sure, $300 is too much for a CPU. Here, it's pretty standard.

$80 CPU is set it and forget it. If you to have fast CPU $300 is not bad. Bough my $3770K almost 4 years ago and its still good. $300 CPU these days will last long enough to offset the price.

 

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er

$300 CPU these days will last long enough to offset the price.

I agree. Ultimately it's about how much you're willing to invest in your PC, and how much you value it's lasting potential.

 

Zen can't come early enough. One thing I noticed is AMD staying tight lipped about Zen, does that mean it's going to be badass this time around compared to their past two architectures?

I sure hope so as I really want an AMD all setup just like my first PC.

 

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Zen can't come early enough. One thing I noticed is AMD staying tight lipped about Zen, does that mean it's going to be badass this time around compared to their past two architectures?

I sure hope so as I really want an AMD all setup just like my first PC.

Same here.

 

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Very good CPU for 90% of the gamers out there. I have 860K on my brothers PC and he loves its. Much better then buying a Intel CPU at this price range.

Here's my situation...I replaced my desktop with a mobile workstation. I do not play games like I use to but I still want a gaming rig. I thought about a XBOX One or PS4 but honestly, I still prefer the PC. So here I am thinking about the 880k. I strongly believe I can run this cpu for 2yrs (maybe 3yrs) since I only play 1st person shooters. 40 to 50FPS are good enough for me. When it's time to upgrade, I'll probably donate it to a kid so he or she can have some fun.

Do you think it's a good buy based on how I'm thinking? BTW...This will be my 1st AMD rig

 

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Originally Posted by drBlahMan

Here's my situation...I replaced my desktop with a mobile workstation. I do not play games like I use to but I still want a gaming rig. I thought about a XBOX One or PS4 but honestly, I still prefer the PC. So here I am thinking about the 880k. I strongly believe I can run this cpu for 2yrs (maybe 3yrs) since I only play 1st person shooters. 40 to 50FPS are good enough for me. When it's time to upgrade, I'll probably donate it to a kid so he or she can have some fun.

Do you think it's a good buy based on how I'm thinking? BTW...This will be my 1st AMD rig

Depends really what GPU you get.

 

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Originally Posted by drBlahMan

Here's my situation...I replaced my desktop with a mobile workstation. I do not play games like I use to but I still want a gaming rig. I thought about a XBOX One or PS4 but honestly, I still prefer the PC. So here I am thinking about the 880k. I strongly believe I can run this cpu for 2yrs (maybe 3yrs) since I only play 1st person shooters. 40 to 50FPS are good enough for me. When it's time to upgrade, I'll probably donate it to a kid so he or she can have some fun.

Do you think it's a good buy based on how I'm thinking? BTW...This will be my 1st AMD rig

Depends really what GPU you get.

I have a 7970 GHz edition collecting dust

Thought about buying a 380X but I'm thinking the 7970 should carry me through the summer (maybe the fall) before buying a faster gpu.

Games I have currently...
Dying Light
Crysis series
Bioshock series
Far Cry series
a few CODs
GTA V (only 3rd person game I own)

Although I have a 1440p monitor, I have no problem gaming @ 1080p when necessary.

 

I think a mistake in this review is they needed to compare it to Intels, products that are more in line with the pricing on this chip. They should of added Intels pentium series. Specifically the g3258.

I suspect the athlon x4 would beat that chip in productivity but for gaming, the pentium g3258 is unbeatable for the price. When overclocked, it nips at the heels of a 4770k in alot of games. This Athlon processor has no chance of that.

Add in that the pentium g3258 can be found for 50 dollars, and well it's a much better value for a low cost gaming setup.

 

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I think a mistake in this review is they needed to compare it to Intels, products that are more in line with the pricing on this chip. They should of added Intels pentium series. Specifically the g3258.

I suspect the athlon x4 would beat that chip in productivity but for gaming, the pentium g3258 is unbeatable for the price. When overclocked, it nips at the heels of a 4770k in alot of games. This Athlon processor has no chance of that.

Add in that the pentium g3258 can be found for 50 dollars, and well it's a much better value for a low cost gaming setup.

In your dream G3258 comes close to 4770K in gaming.

@drBlahMan. Get it. My brother PC also has HD 7970

with 860K. Play at 1440p and lower setting. This way the CPU will never hold you back.

 

I won't lie, I really don't even see a true reason for AMD to have sku'ed the 880k or the 7890k. Neither makes true sense in their market segment, it would make more sense for AMD to crush the budget segment at the $60 segment for 880K and the $110 segment with 7890K or just drop some prices on current 870k and 7870K.

I just can't grasp cluttering your own marketshare segment, it's already too saturated in that arena.

Don't get me wrong, I love the budget segments, all I build since SB came out years ago. But how many SKU's do you really need?

 

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I won't lie, I really don't even see a true reason for AMD to have sku'ed the 880k or the 7890k. Neither makes true sense in their market segment, it would make more sense for AMD to crush teh budget segment at the $60 segment for 880K and the $110 segment with 7890K or just drop some prices on current 870k and 7870K.

I just can't grasp cluttering your own marketshare segment, it's already too saturated in that arena.

Don't get me wrong, I love the budget segments, all I build since SB came out years ago. But how many SKU's do you really need?

Eventhough 860K is unlocked I would not OC it even for my brother so I do not have to deal with it. 880K is a nice 300MHz boost in clock and you know its 100% stable.

 

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Eventhough 860K is unlocked I would not OC it even for my brother so I do not have to deal with it. 880K is a nice 300MHz boost in clock and you know its 100% stable.

Meh, built many 760K and 860K past few years for clients, always going minimum 4.2GHz, never an issue not once so far. (knock on some wood, right haha) They all clock great and stable unless you want crazy clocks.

I suppose there are those few that clock bad but I feel that's pretty rare.

 

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er

In your dream G3258 comes close to 4770K in gaming.

@drBlahMan. Get it. My brother PC also has HD 7970

with 860K. Play at 1440p and lower setting. This way the CPU will never hold you back.

Didn't say all games.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70977-intel-pentium-anniversary-edition-g3258/?page=7

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/pentium_20th_anniversary_series_g3258_processor_review,14.html

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_pentium_k_anniversary_g3258_review,14.html

Here they compare a athlon 860k x4 vs the g3258 and the athlon gets blasted.

Some games by 50 to 100%.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/page2.html

 

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Didn't say all games.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70977-intel-pentium-anniversary-edition-g3258/?page=7

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/pentium_20th_anniversary_series_g3258_processor_review,14.html

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_pentium_k_anniversary_g3258_review,14.html

Here they compare a athlon 860k x4 vs the g3258 and the athlon gets blasted.

Some games by 50 to 100%.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu/page2.html

Right no most games do not even run on Dual Core CPUs. Those games you posted these GPUs are within 5-10%. Those are old games. Most are pre 2014. 2015/2016 games are a different story where 4 cores gets fully utilized.

 

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Right no most games do not even run on Dual Core CPUs. Those games you posted these GPUs are within 5-10%. Those are old games. Most are pre 2014. 2015/2016 games are a different story where 4 cores gets fully utilized.

Alot of these games are mainstream games or very popular ones like the GTA V and witcher 3. And the g3258 wins still wins overall by 15%. In that lineup, the g3258 at worst loses by 5 percent in a couple gamers. In others, it crushes by athlon x4. When your talking about some games being 20% faster, it makes a significant difference in game play experience.

There is no reason to suggest this athlon chip.

If you want to mix newer games, the athlon x4 isn't going to cut it either as we have seen with newer game GPU performance tests. Basically in games where the g3258 isn't cutting the mustard, neither is the athlon x4. It's single threaded performance is too weak. And a person is likely going to need a more powerful cpu, where both the AMD and Intel processor needs to be ruled out and it's why people that want budget box gaming machines have to make a concession the the settings they play on and even the games they play.

Add in that the 880k is double the price of the g3258 and it is simply a bad buy.

 

It's a decent value proposition when the system doesn't have an iGPU.

$100 can't even get you an i3 at microcenter...

If you go for a G3258 you need to have overclocking-able hardware and cooler ; platform cost is going to more.

 

Might as well pick one up and give the 860K to my brother.

 

i think the best thing to do is wait for zen or get intel, unless if you guys want a chip for light gaming or multimedia..

the i3 skylake is a bit pricey but they perform very close to i5's(sandy\ivy) in multi threaded games
pentium oc'd will not last long but they have great performance for its price