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Heads up: CPU can cause artifacts

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#1 ·
I've been told in the past that CPU overclocking doesn't cause artifacts, only GPU overclocking, but apparently not. I just got a Pentium D 805 and found my maximum stable overclock to be 3.24GHz on my current motherboard (it only allows up to a .03 increase in voltage so I can't get any higher). If I run any higher than 3.24, I get artifacts in all 3D applications except for the DXdiag Direct3D tests, and the artifacts become more severe the higher I overclock (system is bootable up to 3.44GHz).

Graphics settings were a stock while I was finding the max CPU overclock, so it wasn't a factor as I now have both overclocked and no artifacts. Just a headsup for people experiencing artifacts if they want to check their CPU settings if all else fails.
 
#3 ·
Agreed. I even doubt the motherboard has a PCI-E lock, and thus you're likely overclocking the PCI-E bus together with the CPU... that's imo the likely cause of your problem. If so, you need to back down severly, since an overclocked PCI-E bus can cause permanent damage to your video card. No more than a 10% overclock is recommended if the PCI-E bus indeed cannot be locked.
 
#5 ·
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Agreed. I even doubt the motherboard has a PCI-E lock, and thus you're likely overclocking the PCI-E bus together with the CPU... that's imo the likely cause of your problem. If so, you need to back down severly, since an overclocked PCI-E bus can cause permanent damage to your video card. No more than a 10% overclock is recommended if the PCI-E bus indeed cannot be locked.
This is AGP bro, sig system
 
#8 ·
In the BIOS. I assume (hope) you overclock in the BIOS. There should be something like an AGP frequency and/or a PCI frequency. The AGP frequency should always be at 66MHz, while the PCI frequency should be at 33MHz. If you don't have those entries, the AGP bus and PCI bus overclock together with the FSB (and thus the CPU).

At stock, your D805 runs at an FSB of 133MHz (or 533MHz Quad Pumped), which results in 2.66GHz (multi is x20). Now, at the speed you manage you get out of it, your FSB is 162MHZ (or 648MHz Quad Pumped), and the AGP bus will run at 81MHz if it cannot be locked. That's too high for most video cards to handle, and if this it's what's happening, you're pretty lucky that artifacting is your only problem. I highly recomment to keep the overclock limited to 10%, or 15% if you don't mind a little risk, since a high AGP bus will cause damage to a video card.
 
#9 ·
at 162 I have no artifacts, at 164 or higher I get artifacts. There are no AGP options in the bios besides voltage, which is set to normal, and yes of course I overclock in the bios. The bios is probably using automatic dividers for the AGP/PCI busses then, since my PCI sound card is also working fine, it was at 170 even

I'm pretty certain it's simply the limitation of CPU voltage, the guys that got it to 4.1 with this stepping had it at 1.52v or so
 
#11 ·
Since it's an ECS mobo with a VIA chipset, I highly doubt it automatically locks.

This has nothing to do with CPU voltages. Based on your description, this is too high an overclock of the AGP bus. PCI generally can handle more, and the first symptom of malfuction on that part will be the network cards. Also, your bus speed for your hard drives is likely clocked too high.

You put yourself at quite a risk.
 
#13 ·
I agree, this has MOBO/chipset writen all over it. Half the people on this forum have played with a PD805 on highly overclockable boards without this issue. Your choice of chipset is up to you, but I wouldn't start a thread named "Heads up: CPU can cause artifacts" based on the results of an overclocked VIA chipset.

Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to sound harsh.
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by Straka View Post
I'm not an expert on chipsets, or overclocking for that matter, try not to crucify me
Sorry if we came accross too rough on you... not our intention
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Your initial reaction is logical, but in this case incorrect (based on the information you gave us).

Just reduce your overclock a bit and enjoy
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Just keep a good eye on artifacts and such, and if you get them again, clock back a bit more even.

ECS makes good products, but isn't targeting the overclocking crowd. Thus, the overclocking capabilities of their boards are limited, and often they simply don't overclock at all.

Good luck with your rig.
 
#16 ·
Its the mobo