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Inside diameter of G1/4" Thread

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I saw a question like this posed somewhere else on the net but none of the answers were very clear and all googling has led me nowhere on this question so here goes. What is the inside diameter of a G1/4" thread?

Here's why I'm asking: I just bought the parts for my very first loop and am waiting for them to arrive. On the advice of members of this forum I purchased 7/16ID, 5/8OD tubing and compression fittings. In thinking about the dynamics of piping, I began to wonder if the G1/4" thread side of the compression fitting was smaller than 7/16" which in my mind would impair flow and make the point of buying compression fittings and tubing of 7/16ID size less efficient than say just going with 3/8ID. From other forums and threads I know that G1/4" does not mean that the OD or ID is 1/4" (bit confusing if you ask me). So what is it? I saw one drawing where it showed the inside diameter of a G1/4" as 8mm which would be ~5/16" which would be smaller even than 3/8" in which case it seems even 3/8" would be slightly overkill. On the other hand, looking at this page it seems to me the ID is closer to 11.44mm which would be just slightly larger than 7/16". So could anyone do me a quick favor and measure the inside diameter of one of their G1/4" threads and tell me what it is?

I've seen various arguments stating that even if the diameter is smaller that it doesn't impede overall flow much but this just doesn't seem to pass the common sense test to me. Sure, maybe it doesn't slow it down to the point that it's like having smaller tubing and fittings, but surely it makes a difference? Am I just dumb?

Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your time!
 
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Originally Posted by gumbie
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10mm ID 12mm OD of the thread

Thank you so much for the info! Now is there anyone out there that can explain to me the benefits of having 7/16ID tubing and fittings if all fittings are closed to 3/8ID anyway? Not trying to be a pain, but really, has anyone upgraded their system from 3/8ID to 7/16ID tubing and fittings without changing anything else, and if so could you give us some temp or flow numbers? Or for that matter, someone who's gone from 3/8ID to anything higher since the same problem applies.
 
#8 ·
Right, I get that, but the question remains, do tubing and fittings larger than 3/8ID contribute to increased flow in any meaningful way even if the G1/4" threads limit the flow to just a hair over 3/8ID anyway? In my particular case, I'm using 7/16ID tubing and 7/16ID compression fittings. Is this going to afford me virtually no flow benefits as compared to 3/8ID tubing and compression fittings? If flow is restricted to 3/8ID then why go 7/16ID, 1/2ID or 3/4ID?
 
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Originally Posted by gumbie
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Realistically speaking you wont see any noticeable difference in flow/temps, Tubing is all preference, Some people "Like the Look" so to speak, of different sized tubing.

I think I've been misled then... I was under the impression that larger tubing and fittings contributed to greater flow. I wonder why manufacturers don't produce a more popular standardized larger thread to accommodate up to at least 1/2"ID fittings...
 
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Originally Posted by mdatmo
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At a given mass flow rate the flow velocity will be lower in a tube with a larger diameter. Due to the slower flow there will be less friction. So theoretically a larger diameter tube is beneficial. However the difference between 3/8 and 1/2 (or 7/16) is so small it will not matter at all in terms of real world performance.

Pretty much what i was trying to explain, But could not find the right way to word it
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Originally Posted by Banegio
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The most restrictive part of the loop is the overall limiting factor.

I would think the internal of the waterblock or the radiator more restrictive than the thread?

Yes, I have thought about that as well and I suppose (at least based on numbers I've seen on this forum and others) that's absolutely true. I guess now I just feel a little dismayed that I spent a bit more than I needed to for 7/16ID when it sounds like I could have done just as well with 3/8ID. Oh well... live and learn.