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is 1.66v a safe dram voltage of an i7

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I know that as long as you keep QPI/Dram core voltage with in .5V of your Dram Bus voltage then 1.66v is okay for a dram bus voltage on an i7 system. Also I have been told that you should have memory on the higher end of quality to do this. This seems to be well accepted in the OC community, but it also seems to be one of those things that is just accepted by experience of others, no one has blown up their i7 yet because they used a dram bus voltage of 1.66. My dram bus voltage is set to 1.66.

My question is that has this ever been confirmed on a technical site of any kind by a reputable source? I have spent two hours seaching the net for a source that could be considered industry accepted. On another flight sim forum that I belong to a person is telling someone else if he goes to 1.66 he runs a high risk of damaging his i7. Other people have said that is not the case, but this person just says show me in writing where Intel, Asus or anyone else has said that it is okay. Does anyone know of a source and can you give me a link if you do? I am not talking about a link to a response in a forum where someone said that it was okay. I need a link to someplace like Guru3D, Asus, EVGA, Mushkin, whatever just some place to shut this guy up.
 
#4 ·
1.66 is plenty fine.
 
#6 ·
Make sure to keep your Uncore voltage within .5v or the chip will degrade.
 
#7 ·
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Originally Posted by melterx12 View Post
dram voltage will not damage your CPU no matter what its set to. Dram voltage goes to your RAM so i dont see how it can harm an i7.

The stock voltage for ddr3 ram is 1.65 so setting it to 1.66 shouldnt harm it at all.
Not true. The i7s have an integrated memory controller. You can ruin a processor with too much dram voltage.
 
#8 ·
Whats the max DRAM vt you guys have ran?
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Make sure to keep your Uncore voltage within .5v or the chip will degrade.
Yep.

And Intel states the safe QPI voltage is 1.35v, so theoretically 1.85v on the DRAM is even okay
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I find it hilarious when people see a red value in the bios and then panic.

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Originally Posted by melterx12 View Post
dram voltage will not damage your CPU no matter what its set to. Dram voltage goes to your RAM so i dont see how it can harm an i7.

The stock voltage for ddr3 ram is 1.65 so setting it to 1.66 shouldnt harm it at all.
wrong and wrong

JEDEC standard for DDR3 voltage is 1.5v and the CPU has an IMC.
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Make sure to keep your Uncore voltage within .5v or the chip will degrade.
This

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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
Yep.

And Intel states the safe QPI voltage is 1.35v, so theoretically 1.85v on the DRAM is even okay
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I find it hilarious when people see a red value in the bios and then panic.
but only if the QPI voltage is at 1.35v (I'm just being a nit-picky
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#11 ·
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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
Yep.

And Intel states the safe QPI voltage is 1.35v, so theoretically 1.85v on the DRAM is even okay
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Yeah, but I personally wouldn't run at that for 24/7.
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#13 ·
DRAM voltage on i7s is relatively safe up to 1.85v as long as the VTT voltage is at least within .5 volts of vdimm voltage.
 
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Originally Posted by DataMatrix View Post
Uncore voltage you mean.
no.. i mean vtt qpi voltage.
 
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Originally Posted by manolith View Post
no.. i mean vtt qpi voltage.
I think we are talking about the same voltage setting. However the terminology uncore voltage is more correct. QPI describes connections to off-chip devices (I/O hub etc) not the IMC. QPI connects the devices in high speed but it does nothing more. Setting an uncore voltage doesn't necessarily change the QPI bus voltage.

Example:
DRAM voltage = voltage supplied to the memory sticks.
Uncore voltage = voltage applied to IMC (and other uncore controllers on-chip).

A voltage difference of more than 0.5 between the uncore and DRAM will damage the IMC.

Consider the uncore being the northbridge (hence it's frequency and voltage), IOH/ICH being two different southbridges and the QPI just being the FSB.
Also, you must remember that increasing the uncore frequency doesn't mean more throughput on the QPI bus (which could end up in a bottleneck if you REALLY push it). Increasing the frequency on FSB-style CPUs did this however.

Makes it easier to understand then.
 
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Originally Posted by mejobloggs View Post
Interesting...

My ram says it's default 1.65v so I assumed it was ok:
WP160UX4G9|2x2 GB|1600 Mhz|9-9-9-28|1.65V

And I believe my uncore voltage is default at 1.1v (not at home so can't check)

Does that mean I should be raising my uncore voltage to 1.2v or so to be safe?

Non-overclocked i5-750
Up that uncore quickly! Set it to 1.25v and you should well within the threshold.