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#21 ·
I would not be confident in a 970 running 1440p at 144hz. I have a 1080ti arriving the same day as the Dell so I'm not too worried but I am upgrading to that from a 970. I don't think I'd go up from 1080p with my 970.
 
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TwoCables said:
He's obviously trying to avoid spending that much. The first monitor he was looking at was $150. The 2nd one was $196. The 3rd one was $359. The 4th was $340. The 4th was the Dell S2716DG because he could get a $120 discount at Best Buy.

Now he's happy that the G2460PG is on sale for $299.99 and the Dell S2716DG is $399.99. They both have G-SYNC and are both known to be very good monitors. What makes your monitor worth spending $150-250 more than he'd spend on these other monitors? Let's be more realistic and respectful of his budget.
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The Dell S2716DG is a decent monitor for a mixed set of usages. Its ergonomic stand, decent brightness, and great gaming features can make it quite enjoyable to use. However, its narrow viewing angle and poor overall picture quality make it less useful in an office or for watching movies.

Unlike the competing Samsung CHG70, the Dell S2716DG does not support HDR.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2716dg

I would go as far as to say the dell is a ok monitor with known image quality issues.

Conclusion
With the AOC G2460PG, gamers of all stripes can enjoy a smooth gaming experience without screen tearing or motion blur, thanks to the monitor's G-Sync circuitry, 144Hz refresh rate, and fast pixel response. The G2460PG delivers mostly accurate colors and solid gray-scale performance, and it's equipped with a handful of convenient features, such as a fully adjustable stand and a USB port with rapid-charge capabilities. It only has one video input, however, and its viewing-angle performance could be better. The BenQ XL2420G is also a 24-inch G-Sync monitor, and it, too, suffers from narrow viewing angles, but it is equipped with multiple video inputs and offers extensive gamer-centric settings, which is why it remains our Editor's Choice midsize gaming monitor.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2477355,00.asp

the AOC seems to also have issues in fact the BenQ XL242OG seems to be a bit better choice.

this is just what I have read from reviews found, I have never owned one of these monitors to truly know.

as I stated I do own a Asus MG279Q monitor, and it is a nice monitor, but if you are insistent on making a argument out of this, I can continue to post reviews of the monitors you seem to be endorsing.
 
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toolmaker03 said:
The Dell S2716DG is a decent monitor for a mixed set of usages. Its ergonomic stand, decent brightness, and great gaming features can make it quite enjoyable to use. However, its narrow viewing angle and poor overall picture quality make it less useful in an office or for watching movies.

Unlike the competing Samsung CHG70, the Dell S2716DG does not support HDR.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2716dg

I would go as far as to say the dell is a ok monitor with known image quality issues.

Conclusion
With the AOC G2460PG, gamers of all stripes can enjoy a smooth gaming experience without screen tearing or motion blur, thanks to the monitor's G-Sync circuitry, 144Hz refresh rate, and fast pixel response. The G2460PG delivers mostly accurate colors and solid gray-scale performance, and it's equipped with a handful of convenient features, such as a fully adjustable stand and a USB port with rapid-charge capabilities. It only has one video input, however, and its viewing-angle performance could be better. The BenQ XL2420G is also a 24-inch G-Sync monitor, and it, too, suffers from narrow viewing angles, but it is equipped with multiple video inputs and offers extensive gamer-centric settings, which is why it remains our Editor's Choice midsize gaming monitor.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2477355,00.asp

the AOC seems to also have issues in fact the BenQ XL242OG seems to be a bit better choice.

this is just what I have read from reviews found, I have never owned one of these monitors to truly know.

as I stated I do own a Asus MG279Q monitor, and it is a nice monitor, but if you are insistent on making a argument out of this, I can continue to post reviews of the monitors you seem to be endorsing.
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And again, it's $546 vs. $300 for the G2460PG or $400 for the S2716DG. I own the AOC G2460PG. I'm using it right now and I have absolutely no problems with it. I repeat: I have absolutely no problems with it. I also owned the ASUS PG248Q and the Acer XB241H, and the G2460PG is much better than both of them. I recommend it completely. I think I would also recommend the S2716DG though based on the fact that every owner of it on here I've seen is very happy with it.

You aren't respecting his budget at all by recommending the MG279Q. Haven't you noticed that he hasn't responded to you yet? Why do you think that is? Maybe it's because he wants to spend $300 or $400, NOT $550! That's why he has been ignoring you. I don't blame him one bit because if you were doing the same thing to me, I'd ignore you too because you're not helping.
 
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TwoCables said:
And again, it's $546 vs. $300 for the G2460PG or $400 for the S2716DG. I own the AOC G2460PG. I'm using it right now and I have absolutely no problems with it. I repeat: I have absolutely no problems with it. I also owned the ASUS PG248Q and the Acer XB241H, and the G2460PG is much better than both of them. I recommend it completely. I think I would also recommend the S2716DG though based on the fact that every owner of it on here I've seen is very happy with it.

You aren't respecting his budget at all by recommending the MG279Q. Haven't you noticed that he hasn't responded to you yet? Why do you think that is? Maybe it's because he wants to spend $300 or $400, NOT $550! That's why he has been ignoring you. I don't blame him one bit because if you were doing the same thing to me, I'd ignore you too because you're not helping.
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CyHawk said:
Hello -

I'm wanting to get a 144Hz monitor. My Samsung 2493hm is pretty old. I have a GTX970 for a video card. I'm unsure what to get. There is a used Asus VG248QE in my area for $150. Is that a good buy?

I've read that the AOC G2460PF is a really good monitor even though it's a FreeSync monitor. I understand the FreeSync will not work with the Nvidia gpu, but I should still get the 144Hz. Is that correct?

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-G2460PF-.../B01BV1XBEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517689452&sr=8-1&keywords=aoc+144hz+monitor


Or should I be looking I be looking at a G-Sync monitor? Thoughts on either of these?

AOC G2460PG
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SIZ8QDM/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I11C49NUS48MDO&colid=19IIKW2514WCL&psc=0

Acer Predator
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C05C1OK/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1MP5676HGX2CN&colid=19IIKW2514WCL&psc=1

I'd love to go 1440p, but I don't think the 970 would run it well.

Any input is appreciated!
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no, it clearly says any input appreciated.

you dear sir have gone out of your way to make this about yourself, correct me if wrong here but this is not supposed to be about you.

you have responded to my post, and for what reasons I have yet to figure out. maybe you can help me to understand why you felt it necessary to respond to my posts at all?

my first post had nothing to do with you but you made it all about you, great job man, is this really what your all about?

you want a good monitor that will last, this is a gaming monitor. I have had my MG279Q for four years now gaming often, and have had no issues with it. it is a adaptive sync and I have yet to find a game that it does not follow right with the Asus GTX580 video card. meaning that if the game runs at 87FPS, than the monitor is at 87Hz, if the game is at 120FPS, than the monitor is at 120Hz, and so on, and so forth. it is a great monitor have not seen any ghosting or tearing on the screen. so I give this monitor my vote.

here is my first post it has nothing to do with you or your opinions.

You're recommending that he buy a $546 monitor when he's trying to spend a LOT less than that. Even worse, it doesn't even have G-SYNC. So why does it cost a small fortune?

this is your reply, and this comment goes out of it's way, to make this about you.

well I am recommending a monitor that I own personally, so I know how that monitor works. as far as G-sync Vs. Free-sync, I have never seen any ghosting or tearing on my screen. so I would say that free-sync works just fine. if you are really intent on arguing this with me I could post some reviews that show free-sync monitors work better than g-sync. I am not trying to start an argument with anybody here though.

my reply to you where I try to stop your inappropriate behavior, my attempt did not work at all, and you take this even further, to make this all about you.

He's obviously trying to avoid spending that much. The first monitor he was looking at was $150. The 2nd one was $196. The 3rd one was $359. The 4th was $340. The 4th was the Dell S2716DG because he could get a $120 discount at Best Buy.

Now he's happy that the G2460PG is on sale for $299.99 and the Dell S2716DG is $399.99. They both have G-SYNC and are both known to be very good monitors. What makes your monitor worth spending $150-250 more than he'd spend on these other monitors? Let's be more realistic and respectful of his budget.

so you take it even further, and start being very disrespectful, so thank you so much for making this all about you.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
I did thank toolmaker03 for his input. I love Asus products. I have used Asus motherboards for all of the computers I have built. I have an Asus RT-3100 router and my GTX970 is an Asus. And I have no doubt the MG279Q would be an awesome monitor. However in this case, I don't want to spend $550 on a monitor right now. Not to mention, my wife would kill me. I'll most likely get the AOC. But I was taken by how nice the Dell 27" looked. I am curious about gaming at less than native resolution, i.e 1440p monitor gaming windowed at 1920p. KGPrime mentioned that he does that with the 24" Dell.

The main reason I bought a used GTX970 was because I had no desire to pay over two times MSRP for a gpu. Plus the fact I'm gaming on an i7-2600k. I'm in need of a new computer. This also was the reason why I asked about the used Asus VG248QE. I was hoping to get into a 120/144hz monitor on the cheap, and to improve my pubg experience. Anyways, I really appreciate the all the input. It makes it easier to make a decision when input is coming from user experience!
 
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CyHawk said:
I did thank toolmaker03 for his input. I love Asus products. I have used Asus motherboards for all of the computers I have built. I have an Asus RT-3100 router and my GTX970 is an Asus. And I have no doubt the MG279Q would be an awesome monitor. However in this case, I don't want to spend $550 on a monitor right now. Not to mention, my wife would kill me. I'll most likely get the AOC. But I was taken by how nice the Dell 27" looked. I am curious about gaming at less than native resolution, i.e 1440p monitor gaming windowed at 1920p. KGPrime mentioned that he does that with the 24" Dell.

The main reason I bought a used GTX970 was because I had no desire to pay over two times MSRP for a gpu. Plus the fact I'm gaming on an i7-2600k. I'm in need of a new computer. This also was the reason why I asked about the used Asus VG248QE. I was hoping to get into a 120/144hz monitor on the cheap, and to improve my pubg experience. Anyways, I really appreciate the all the input. It makes it easier to make a decision when input is coming from user experience!
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See, toolmaker03? Look at the big text above.

Anyway CyHawk, you're welcome. I'm glad we could be helpful.

I hate to do this though, but I looked over your posts several times and you never once acknowledged toolmaker03. I'm not saying you should, but I'm just explaining where I got the impression that you were ignoring him.
 
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TwoCables said:
I hate to do this though, but I looked over your posts several times and you never once acknowledged toolmaker03. I'm not saying you should, but I'm just explaining where I got the impression that you were ignoring him.
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My apologies toolmaker03! I appreciate your input. I would never intentionally ignore someone who gives me feedback. Did I read your post correctly? You're running a GTX580 with a 1440p monitor? What's your experience in Pubg?


Thanks for pointing that out TwoCables!
 
#31 ·
Yes actually the monitor is coming in early (today) so I will try to play around with it tonight. The new card doesn't come til tomorrow so I will try to give you a before and after.
 
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PUBG has trouble attaining 60 fps at 2560 x 1440. In the lobby I was hitting mid 60s; but in combat I was dipping into the 30s. It didn't feel stuttery though. Not sure if thats because of G-sync or not. The colors are pretty good, even when sitting next to my cheap(er) Asus IPS monitor. I suppose the reviews were pretty accurate when they were saying that colors are pretty vivid for a TN panel. In CSGO with most settings maxed I was above 100 FPS most of the time, maxing out at about 117; again I didn't notice any stuttering or anything, seemed silky smooth still. Aesthetically, the monitor feels super high quality: the stand is heavy and sturdy; the bezel is pretty thin; and it looks like a professional monitor without all the "gamer" colors and marketing.

Edited for typos and also full disclosure: this is the most expensive monitor I've purchased and the first monitor with a high refresh rate and G-sync.
 
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KBOMB said:
PUBG has trouble attaining 60 fps at 2560 x 1440. In the lobby I was hitting mid 60s; but in combat I was dipping into the 30s. It didn't feel stuttery though. Not sure if thats because of G-sync or not. The colors are pretty good, even when sitting next to my cheap(er) Asus IPS monitor. I suppose the reviews were pretty accurate when they were saying that colors are pretty vivid for a TN panel. In CSGO with most settings maxed I was above 100 FPS most of the time, maxing out at about 117; again I didn't notice any stuttering or anything, seemed silky smooth still. Aesthetically, the monitor feels super high quality: the stand is heavy and sturdy; the bezel is pretty thin; and it looks like a professional monitor without all the "gamer" colors and marketing.

Edited for typos and also full disclosure: this is the most expensive monitor I've purchased and the first monitor with a high refresh rate and G-sync.
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Thanks a bunch for this!!!

A couple questions.

1. Was the match recording on? That kills the fps. If so, what were fps when you turned it off?
2. Any chance you could go windowed 1920x1200 and tell me your thoughts? How was picture? etc.

Thanks again!
 
#37 ·
Match recording was set to off already. Settings were AA High, PostProcessing Low, Shadows Low, Textures High, Effects Very Low, Foliage Very Low, View Distance High. Did you want 1080p or 1200p?
 
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At 1080p, FPS hovered in the mid 80s mostly; topped out at 119 in the lobby. Ran pretty smooth BUT you could tell that this was not the native resolution. The picture appeared kinda pixelated compared to the higher resolution. Even more so than on the 1080 monitor that it replaced.
 
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KBOMB said:
At 1080p, FPS hovered in the mid 80s mostly; topped out at 119 in the lobby. Ran pretty smooth BUT you could tell that this was not the native resolution. The picture appeared kinda pixelated compared to the higher resolution. Even more so than on the 1080 monitor that it replaced.
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CyHawk: this is what I was referring to earlier about using 1080p on a 27" 1440p monitor. It would be a little better to use 1080p on the 24" Dell S2417DG, but probably not by much since it's still designed for 1440p. I remember people saying that scaling is ok on it but not great, but better than on the S2716DG.
 
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