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Originally Posted by ssateneth

Sooooo since I didn't see a thread of the MSI X399 board up yet and i'm having some issues, here I am, hoping other people have some solutions.

So MSI UEFI has fairly limited options. Where can I set UMA vs NUMA mode?

Also is anyone else getting C0 POST code on doing a warm restart? Power cycle or reset button bypasses C0 POST code.
I also get D4 POST code when using my M.2 Samsung 950 Pro SSD. The SSD is not broken as I can use it in another computer just fine, data all there and is fine.

UMA and NUMA are through the Ryzen Master application, they aren't in a BIOS.

Also, you should update your UEFI for the drive thing.

 

Hey!

The UMA and NUMA setting is under DRAM settings. I don't rememer exactly the names and where but something like this:

-> Advanced Memory Settings -> Misc. Settings -> Memory Interleaving -> Channel

Channel means NUMA (or Local in Ryzen Master).

 

I fixed the C0 issue by reseating the CPU. I fixed the D4 issue by enabling Windows 10 WHQL Support, so all is well for now. I just wish I could do more than 3066MHz RAM.

 

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Originally Posted by DVH2015

Hey!

The UMA and NUMA setting is under DRAM settings. I don't rememer exactly the names and where but something like this:

-> Advanced Memory Settings -> Misc. Settings -> Memory Interleaving -> Channel

Channel means NUMA (or Local in Ryzen Master).

Ah okay, i just tell people to look in the application b/c it's a lot easier to find.

 

The BIOS UI on this motherboard is absolute trash IMO. A very big part of me wishes that these companies would hire consultants to design better UIs. I have designed some pretty amazing stuff in the past (though not for a BIOS/UEFI). I am also not even a designer, I'm a developer.

At any rate, I just upgraded to the 1.5 BIOS. I had some stability issues under the 1.4x beta versions. Is anyone running 128 GB on this board at DDR4 3200 or higher? If so what is your kit and have you stress tested it? I went with 32GB for now until the RAM situation improves.

 

Does pressure on the OC1 "Game Boost knob" in the corner of the Gaming Pro Carbon x399 board activate the OC, or does the knob require rotation only? My graphics card water block presses heavily on the knob when the PCIe card is clipped into the retention bracket.



I'm checking the clearance of the GPU waterblock against all those connectors along that edge of the board before I decide to keep and install this motherboard. (Thank you Frys 30-day money back guarantee.) The MSI x399 appeared to have the most clearance when I eyeballed motherboards in the store, but the knob definitely is a concern.

 

This is a rotation knoob.
You can see the selection in the bios (top left).

 

I've been testing the channel memory interleaving,
below the results seen with ryzen master after applying the bios setting:

channel -> local
die -> distributed
socket -> distributed

 

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GVK will give you solid 3200 without a problem. I am not OC'n at all the CPU (HW knob 0) and using XMP profile 2. Hope this might help... Also my MSI got a bios update this week its now 1.60 (upgrade from 1.50) but I was running 3200 before also.

One big thing I find fault in the TR and x399/RAM right now is a very insane high is Bank Cycle Time (tRC) which is 75 clocks. Normally this is only somewhat above Cycle Time (tRAS) + RAS Precharge (tRP) from what Ive researched... soon as I figure how to unlock all timings (real annoying so far on the MSI) Im going to work on that as Passmark gives a horrid latency rating.

 

Can someone help me out with something?

Set your fan profiles in BIOS to:

50C/25%
55C/50%
60C/75%
65C/100%

Then boot into Windows and run something like Prime95 small to heat up the CPU...and let me know if the fans work for you. The only thing that works for me is setting a manual speed.

 

The latest BIOS fixes a ton of issues, though I still suspect that some options quite simply don't work. Also, sometimes if an overclock fails with Ryzen master, you'll get a C0 or 0C error (can't remember which) until a BIOS reset. However, I am pretty impressed that they have taken the time to improve things, hopefully they continue to do so. Still probably won't buy MSI next time though. I should not have had to wait 4-5 months for a halfway proper BIOS.

 

Yeah well its now a year later and think 6 bios updates and this motherboard is far from a 'gamer board' still... my biggest disappointment is how locked down the bios still is... if you havent bought one. honestly dont... and if you do make sure you not using gskill ram because something with JEDEC and the chip size and layout makes latency horrid on this MB. like tRFC being set to 540 compared to 413 with corsairs. Also tRC is set to 75 and even xmp profiles says put it at 48-52 (depending on the speed). I wish someone would crack the bios open and unlock the thing tbh...

 

Gskill 3200 cl14 has a high tRFC on any board when you load XMP profile, it has nothing to do with this board.
But why is it so difficult to manually change those things?

I have this board and it is really solid, the only "problem" is that you need to have a dedicated vent blowing over VRMs if you plan to overclock and do stuff like rendering when CPU is at 100% for longer periods of time..