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New Water-Cooled Hard Drives Coming

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Todd Haselton
August 03, 2007

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Hitachi and NEC are developing the water-cooled hard drive systems for desktop computers mainly to reduce noise levels to 25 decibels, 5 decibels quieter than a whisper. To do this, NEC and Hitachi actually wrap the hard drive in "noise absorbing material and vibration insulation." Further, the companies have chosen to use a low-speed radiator fan to keep decibel levels down in the radiator also. Creating a quieter hard drive isn't the only focus though, as the companies also hope to keep the hard drives cooler.

According to Hitachi and NEC, the cooling cold plate they're planning to use is the most efficient plate ever used for heat conduction, which means they'll be able to cool the hard drives quicker and more efficiently. The cooling plate technology uses a series of fine ridges, similar to the ones in CPU cooling plates, that are just 0.09mm in width, and through which anti-freeze liquid will travel. Since water-cooling technology is relatively old, we imagine Hitachi and NEC set out to create a quieter hard drive, and the best way to achieve this was to wrap it in the noise-absorbing material. Since that material likely heated the drives more, the most practical option was to water-cool the drives.

[Source: Ars Technica]
 
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Originally Posted by cgrado
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I would say that in servers they may have problems because there are soo many high heat components all together, but having those in anything other than a PC would be very hard to do.

Our rackmounted servers at work are a bit hotter than the towers but the rackmounts definitely will not have the room for water cooled hard drives. Let alone allowing any water near the servers.
 
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what makes all the heat in the hard drive anyways? I have taken them apart and all they are is some disc that are spun buy a small moter and a arm that is moved by a magnet,So where does all the heat come form? These no way that little moter can cuase 40-50C worth of heat on its own.
 
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Did no one read the article?!

1) They wanted to make a quieter drive, so wrapped it in sound-insulating material.
2) This material prevents sound and heat from getting out.
3) But, we want the heat to get out.
4) Answer? Get the heat out via tubing, which does not carry sound.
 
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Did no one read the article?! Jesus.

1) They wanted to make a quieter drive, so wrapped it in sound-insulating material.
2) This material prevents sound and heat from getting out.
3) But, we want the heat to get out.
4) Answer? Get the heat out via tubing, which does not carry sound.
Hard drives aren't loud anyways.... At least mine aren't. Of all the sounds coming out of your PC i would think hard drive would be the last one to consider, unless you have raptors or something.
 
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what makes all the heat in the hard drive anyways? I have taken them apart and all they are is some disc that are spun buy a small moter and a arm that is moved by a magnet,So where does all the heat come form? These no way that little moter can cuase 40-50C worth of heat on its own.
The motor is the source. Moving parts create friction which generates heat. Those motors are spinning at very high speeds to boot....I'm pretty sure that's where the majority of the heat comes from, that and it cannot readily escape the enclosure.
 
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Originally Posted by cgrado View Post
I would say that in servers they may have problems because there are soo many high heat components all together, but having those in anything other than a PC would be very hard to do.
hmm I read a review of harddrives that failed when they where 5c. It's better just to leave the harddrive and leave it running on 30c to 60c.
 
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...and isn't it better for hard drives to run warmer? I've heard that they last longer that way, than running cooler.
Within limits. Supposingly a hard drive with a bit of airflow going over it is better than a cold hard drive. But you can't go too warm or it will break.

I guess some server hard disks are pretty noisy, especially the cheetahs, 15000rpm.
 
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Originally Posted by jonny1989
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what makes all the heat in the hard drive anyways? I have taken them apart and all they are is some disc that are spun buy a small moter and a arm that is moved by a magnet,So where does all the heat come form? These no way that little moter can cuase 40-50C worth of heat on its own.

It is caused by the friction of the drive spinning at 7200RPM.
 
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hmm, interesting read.

although the watercooling isn't so much to cool the drives as to help dissipate the heat that gets stuck because of the noise isolation material.

i think i'd just get some scythe HD silencers in a decently quiet case though. seems impractical, and somewhat risky, to have anything more than a fan blowing across.

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to clarify, i was expecting something like that Koolance sleeve thing in a self-contained unit, not a cooling system for the enclosure XD
 
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Just use non-conductive fluid

I don't think non-conductive fluid would help if it leaks inside the HD.

And Google has done a study on this before and they claim a warm running HD in the 40-50s will last longer than one running in the 20s for the first 5 years of the drive.
 
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If these are for servers....
1) Where would they find the space to fit the rad/pump?
2) How do they plan to tube routing? Server rooms are already a mess of cables.
3) Who cares about noise since no one usually actually sits in a server room?
4) More complexity = more problems. If a loop fails, you lose a whole server instead of just one HD.