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Never heard of them before and never seen any Ratpadz mat either, I've heard they're like the best Mousepads in the hard mousepads industry or something along those lines.

I've owned two Razer Destructors II and I loved them at first but now I hate them, each of them lasted little more than a month before losing all the "Awesome Glide", they just wear out really fast.

I need a mousepad with the same or glide or even MOAAAR glide than the Destructor II but with at least 8 Months of durability before wearing out, I dont want to buy a 50$ mousepad each month.

I also own a Razer Manticor, and it's super great quality, probably one of the best built mousepads I've seen, but sadly I hate it, not because it wore out, that thing is really durable, I hate it because its got way too much friction, it doesn't have any glide at all, sucks.

I also own a Logitech G440, Steelseries 9HD and they're on the same boat as the Destructor or the Manticor, every mousepad I find is either wearing out and losing its glide too fast or not having any glide at all to begin with.

That's where the Ratpadz came in, I heard it last well over a year with intense gaming, but it's interesting to see that all the reviews of said mousepad are so old, dating from 15 years back to 2000-2001, are they still in business? Did they changed the mousepad? Can I still buy them? Is there anything better out there in the market?

Everywhere I look for a Ratpadz XT theyre either out of stock or discontinued, and the website is filled with very old reviews and information, I don't know what to think, led me to believe they might be a scam, or a publicity stunt?

I really need to find a very high quality, durable and gliding mousepad for my Sensei Wireless Mice
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I bought one recently from their website so they are still in business, it did take them a few days to process the order.

But be warned, it's a small mousepad even though their website says 'it's huge'. I would highly recommend you buy an HDPE sheet instead, same sheet as the Ratpadz. I ended up doing that and the glide is better than the Ratpadz. Compared them side by side and I always prefer the sheet. If you have wood cutting tools or have a friend who can do it for you, then I suggest you buy a textured sheet from Amazon and cut and sand it to your shape. Add some rubber gripping feet and you have yourself a high quality, very durable mouse pad.

If you don't then do what I did. I bought mine through iplasticsupply.com. Contacted them via email and gave them specs I wanted (14"x10"x0.5"). Would suggest you get a thinner pad though, Ratpadz is 0.25" i thickness.

Another warning, HDPE surfaces don't work well with 3310 sensors.
 
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Don't take it for granted because I'm a soft pad user for years, but I heard quite some good things about the Rocketfish hard pad.
Never heard of that mousepad either, I'm very interested in the Steelseries DeX, anyone got anything about it? Any review? It's a very expensive mousepad and there's barely any information I could find using Google, even when searching in different languages like Spanish and Deustch.
 
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Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post

I bought one recently from their website so they are still in business, it did take them a few days to process the order.

But be warned, it's a small mousepad even though their website says 'it's huge'. I would highly recommend you buy an HDPE sheet instead, same sheet as the Ratpadz. I ended up doing that and the glide is better than the Ratpadz. Compared them side by side and I always prefer the sheet. If you have wood cutting tools or have a friend who can do it for you, then I suggest you buy a textured sheet from Amazon and cut and sand it to your shape. Add some rubber gripping feet and you have yourself a high quality, very durable mouse pad.

If you don't then do what I did. I bought mine through iplasticsupply.com. Contacted them via email and gave them specs I wanted (14"x10"x0.5"). Would suggest you get a thinner pad though, Ratpadz is 0.25" i thickness.

Another warning, HDPE surfaces don't work well with 3310 sensors.
Bro, I know it's been a while and I didn't really got into buying a piece of plastic for a mousepad, so I tried several more Mousepads and I'm still not happy with them, so I'm willing to give it a try, I searched for a HDPE sheet on Amazon, most of them are either way too thick or way too big, the only one I found on the right size is white, will it be alright?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ILG0U0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

I'd appreciate if you could link one that you'd recommend, or the one you're using, also I don't know what exactly I have to look for, what makes a sheet of plastic glides the best? Should I use pledge with it? I heard its self lubricating or something so pledge would ruin it, and if I happen to use pledge which "style" would be the best? Lemon or extra moisturizer?
 
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Amazon is probably the best option if you have your own tools and skills, the sizes are insane and the prices the lowest from what I've seen so far.

Unfortunately I'm not one of them so I didn't buy it from there. My friend did join my HDPE crusade and he discovered Seaboard on Amazon. Loved it but it was almost an inch thick and 36" long so he couldn't keep it. He talked me into trying it and I ordered Sunboard (a variation of HDPE) from the same plastics company I got my HDPE sheet from, I love it!

My second pad is 16"x12"x0.25" and it cost me $20 shipped to MD. The company is based out of Anaheim, CA 92806 so your rates might be lower (judging from your OCN profile location). If you want, you can PM me and I can give you the sales rep's direct email and you can save yourself from the awkwardness of having to explain mouse pad use for their plastic.

I use pledge multi surface cleaner every one-two weeks and the glide does feel different for the next few hours but comes back to normal state soon after. I'd guess that any type of soap would have the same effect.

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Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post

Amazon is probably the best option if you have your own tools and skills, the sizes are insane and the prices the lowest from what I've seen so far.

Unfortunately I'm not one of them so I didn't buy it from there. My friend did join my HDPE crusade and he discovered Seaboard on Amazon. Loved it but it was almost an inch thick and 36" long so he couldn't keep it. He talked me into trying it and I ordered Sunboard (a variation of HDPE) from the same plastics company I got my HDPE sheet from, I love it!

My second pad is 16"x12"x0.25" and it cost me $20 shipped to MD. The company is based out of Anaheim, CA 92806 so your rates might be lower (judging from your OCN profile location). If you want, you can PM me and I can give you the sales rep's direct email and you can save yourself from the awkwardness of having to explain mouse pad use for their plastic.

I use pledge multi surface cleaner every one-two weeks and the glide does feel different for the next few hours but comes back to normal state soon after. I'd guess that any type of soap would have the same effect.

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I just saw your pictures and I just got my hands sweaty and excited about touching this surface!

So I take you've tried the Ratpadz, an HDPE sheet and a sunboard, between the HDPE sheet and the sunboard which offer the best glide with the lesser control? Was the sunboard better than plain HDPE?

As you can see I just bought the one I linked you, which is 12x12 0.18 thickness, I believe this is very thin and the perfect size, costed me 6$ on Amazon, but since it's white opaque I'm wondering if it'll be inferior to a black/dark mousepad due to sensor preference?

Btw, I've also seen these UHMW Surfaces listed on Amazon, they seem to be higher quality than plain HDPE, do you have any experience with them?
 
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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

I just saw your pictures and I just got my hands sweaty and excited about touching this surface!

So I take you've tried the Ratpadz, an HDPE sheet and a sunboard, between the HDPE sheet and the sunboard which offer the best glide with the lesser control? Was the sunboard better than plain HDPE?

As you can see I just bought the one I linked you, which is 12x12 0.18 thickness, I believe this is very thin and the perfect size, costed me 6$ on Amazon, but since it's white opaque I'm wondering if it'll be inferior to a black/dark mousepad due to sensor preference?

Btw, I've also seen these UHMW Surfaces listed on Amazon, they seem to be higher quality than plain HDPE, do you have any experience with them?
lol you're going through the same motions that I did. Yes I did order UHMW through Amazon as well hoping they would be even better than Ratpadz. Mine came in bent and even then, the glide was pretty bad. I think that was because of how it was cut because there was horrible marks on the surface. Returned it the same day.

Right now, I have all three of those in possession. My friend who bought the seaboard tells me that it's not as picky about the sensor. On the regular HDPE, 3310 mice had issues with tracking so my mice selection was reduced to just a few. I didn't get to try any 3310 sensor on my sunboard so don't know how this will hold up. The glide between normal HDPE and sunboard is different, you can see in the pictures that the texture is much finer on the sunboard. They are both great and you really can't go wrong with either.

Not sure about the white color though. 12" by 12" is too small for me so I never got around to experimenting anything off Amazon (other than the UHMW) as everything else was way too big.
 
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lol you're going through the same motions that I did. Yes I did order UHMW through Amazon as well hoping they would be even better than Ratpadz. Mine came in bent and even then, the glide was pretty bad. I think that was because of how it was cut because there was horrible marks on the surface. Returned it the same day.

Right now, I have all three of those in possession. My friend who bought the seaboard tells me that it's not as picky about the sensor. On the regular HDPE, 3310 mice had issues with tracking so my mice selection was reduced to just a few. I didn't get to try any 3310 sensor on my sunboard so don't know how this will hold up. The glide between normal HDPE and sunboard is different, you can see in the pictures that the texture is much finer on the sunboard. They are both great and you really can't go wrong with either.

Not sure about the white color though. 12" by 12" is too small for me so I never got around to experimenting anything off Amazon (other than the UHMW) as everything else was way too big.
The sunboard glide is different than HDPE, but how different regarding its glide and effortless movement?

Could you say if one is better than the other regarding effortless glide?
 
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The sunboard glide is different than HDPE, but how different regarding its glide and effortless movement?

Could you say if one is better than the other regarding effortless glide?
Well the sunboard is a variation of HDPE so it's not that different. If I had to pick between the two, I would pick the sunboard primarily because of the size (other one is 14"x10"x0.375") but not the glide. I will be 100% happy with the glide of either.

They are both very effortless. I wish I had a 3310 mouse and I could test if it has tracking issues on the sunboard as well. I just tried out an Intelli 1.1 on both pads, with the slightest tilt, the mouse starts skipping on the HDPE but not on the Sunboard. If the same applies for 3310 sensors, then sunboard is the clear winner by far.

My main mouse is a G303 (sometimes G402), both of them have excellent sensors and they both work perfectly on both pads.
 
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I feel bad for saying this...but I have that too
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It doesn't even compare, once you're used to this, there's very little that'll match.
You mean the func pad? I've never tried them before but I know what you mean, when I tried the Razer destrucrtor II i was blown away because of the glide and I couldn't ever use anything made from cloth ever again, including the Steelseries DeX which is supposed to be the fastest cloth pad, which is slow next to the destructor II

I will be buying the sunboard as well as it isn't that expensive, and I will try them my self, comparing the white HDPE sheet with the sunboard.
 
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Well the sunboard is a variation of HDPE so it's not that different. If I had to pick between the two, I would pick the sunboard primarily because of the size (other one is 14"x10"x0.375") but not the glide. I will be 100% happy with the glide of either.

They are both very effortless. I wish I had a 3310 mouse and I could test if it has tracking issues on the sunboard as well. I just tried out an Intelli 1.1 on both pads, with the slightest tilt, the mouse starts skipping on the HDPE but not on the Sunboard. If the same applies for 3310 sensors, then sunboard is the clear winner by far.

My main mouse is a G303 (sometimes G402), both of them have excellent sensors and they both work perfectly on both pads.
I just looked for a sunboard sheet on Amazon and I couldn't find it, you sure it isn't this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Seaboard-Density-Polyethylene-Finish-Length/dp/B00K2QT1XO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1446701974&sr=8-4&keywords=HDPE+sheet

If it is, it's called seaboard
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I bought the Sunboard through a plastics company. If you order through them, you won't have the return privileges like Amazon.

I tried the Sunboard because my friend tried that Seaboard you linked to but couldn't keep it because of its massive size + no tools/skills to cut it.

From what the plastics company told me, Sunboard is a direct successor to Starboard and they are not familiar with Seaboard. I think Seaboard is proprietary plastic for Vycom and from what I can tell, it is a variation of Starboard.

I know these names are getting crazy. I'll just summarize it to this, if you have the tools and skills, get it from Amazon as they have the lowest price and return privileges. If not, contact a plastics company near you and see what they have to offer, or get it from the online store like I did.

No returns though, so if you don't like it (highly doubt you will not) then it will be a cutting board. In fact, if you do have an IKEA cutting board, then try gliding your mouse over that and see if you like it. Those are made of LDPE, similar to HDPE but less durable if I recall correctly.
 
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For anyone still interested, these pictures are for texture comparison between the Ratpadz (on top) vs sunboard,
Sexy mama! Thx for the pictures. I emailed the plastics company to ask about buying a sunboard today
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Sexy mama! Thx for the pictures. I emailed the plastics company to ask about buying a sunboard today
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Good to know! Post back how much he quotes and the dimensions. AND MAKE SURE YOU GET IT DEBURRED! He forgot to do mine last time and I had to sand it myself. It wasn't a lot of work so didn't make a fuss about it.
 
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$21 for a 0.25" x 12" x 15" deburred sheet of Sunboard. If it's as durable as my Ratpadz was, to call that a good value would be an understatement.

He also said that he remembered your order and was glad that you like using it as a mousepad
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$21 for a 0.25" x 12" x 15" deburred sheet of Sunboard. If it's as durable as my Ratpadz was, to call that a good value would be an understatement.

He also said that he remembered your order and was glad that you like using it as a mousepad
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Please do another short review of this "pad" when you get a chance to use it. I might be interested in throwing money at this company too.