[tyrex13]

Any ideas on why the initial Passmark Benchmarks are so low for the 2990?

 

[Djreversal]

Hey guys just got my system up and running.. So far so good. I have my 2990wx stable at 4.05ghz.. i could probably push it more but it seems to do better on some benchmark scores at this speed then it did at 4.1-4.2ghz. Memory i have settled in at 3200. Consistent 6300 on Cinebench15

 

[cekim]

Hey guys just got my system up and running.. So far so good. I have my 2990wx stable at 4.05ghz.. i could probably push it more but it seems to do better on some benchmark scores at this speed then it did at 4.1-4.2ghz. Memory i have settled in at 3200. Consistent 6300 on Cinebench15

MB?
Bios OC or in Windows?

Been playing around with my MSI MEG and 2990WX. Compared to Asus/intel OC, this BIOS interface is.... a little... hamfisted...

Gotten a nice bump in geek-bench so far:
Bone stock:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9607264
single: 4905 multi: 46923

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9609374
single: 5399 multi: 62045

 

[Djreversal]

This is windows 10, MSI MEG Motherboard, Current Bios, and yes Bios Overclock. And wow big difference with geekbench on linux vs windows ... my overclock is slower then your stock!!!

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9622803

 

[Djreversal]

MB?
Bios OC or in Windows?

Been playing around with my MSI MEG and 2990WX. Compared to Asus/intel OC, this BIOS interface is.... a little... hamfisted...

Gotten a nice bump in geek-bench so far:
Bone stock:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9607264
single: 4905 multi: 46923

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9609374
single: 5399 multi: 62045

Above

 

[cekim]

This is windows 10, MSI MEG Motherboard, Current Bios, and yes Bios Overclock. And wow big difference with geekbench on linux vs windows ... my overclock is slower then your stock!!!

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/9622803

Yeah windows is a boat anchor on this chip right now...

Are you just changing the multiplier? Any other settings?

 

[Djreversal]

Yeah windows is a boat anchor on this chip right now...

Are you just changing the multiplier? Any other settings?

I did the voltages.. on the ram and the processor. trying to see whats going on if its the overclock or not effecting my fumefx simulation. 3dsmax just closes out right now and im not sure why. my benchmarks seem stable and fine.. not sure if its a problem on the memory side or not.. going to do some prime95 runs and what not.

 

[cekim]

Did you install windows natively or move it over from another machine? I can't get past win10 demanding drivers in setup to do a clean install...

Dug up a sata DVD drive - manually browsed to every dir on the provided DVD and it doesn't find anything that gets me past this...

 

[lowdog]

You guys with the MEG can you test something for me please - Balanced power plan - put the system to sleep and see if it will wake after half an hour - I know it's an ask but need to know!

I have the MEG currently with a 1900X till 2950X becomes available.

Initially the 1900X would not down volt or down clock under windows balanced power plan - was stuck at 3800MHz and 1.4+ volts with no XFR working......MSI sent me beta bios 121 and that fixed the issue.

With both official bios available on MSI site the system would wake from sleep if woken within a few minutes of having been put to sleep.....if left for more than say 20 minutes it would try to wake, debug code would start cycling then stop at debug code 00 and the system would be frozen, both reset and power buttons on case and motherboard were non functional and only way out of the freeze was to turn off power at the wall socket. Beta bios 121 would not wake from sleep no matter what and would always freeze with debug code 00 and need a hard power off at the wall socket to get back up an running.

Also there is an issue with setting SOC voltage and having it apply when memory frequency is set above 2933MHz.

MSI have replicated the issues and say they are working on a fix....how long it will take who knows.



Also if anyone has a CRDOM drive attached vis SATA and they experience any weird PCIE lag or detection problems when opening file explorer and having it load up the drives or HWiNFO64 freezing at "detecting SCSI/SATA" when loading up sensors it may be due to the rom drive as there seems to be some sort of detection issue for some reason, your millage may vary with this one but there is definitely some issue going on on the detecting PCIE device level.


I even had Disk Manager hanging big time with "Connecting with virtual disk services" while trying to load up disk drives. With the cdrom drive disconnected no issue with opening up Disk Management. Once I managed to get drivers installed for the cdrom drive things became more stable but it was a PITA of a process.

 

[Djreversal]

Did you install windows natively or move it over from another machine? I can't get past win10 demanding drivers in setup to do a clean install...

Dug up a sata DVD drive - manually browsed to every dir on the provided DVD and it doesn't find anything that gets me past this...

Mine did a NDIS network crash every time when i tried bringing over my m.2 over.. i had to format and reinstall

 

[cekim]

Mine did a NDIS network crash every time when i tried bringing over my m.2 over.. i had to format and reinstall

Turned out to be a borked image download. I re-imaged the install disk from MSFT and I'm up and running.

LLC5 + 1.25v 4.0GHz so far doing well. It droops to 1.16-1.18v under load with that. LLC appears to be key to keep the voltage up high enough to prevent crashes...

79C peak - 75C typical running 4.0GHz RB stress test for 15M. Time for the water block. Using a push-pull Noctua 14U TR4 right now.

Need more cooling to push it harder. I've allowed it 650W in the BIOS - its topping out at 460W @ 4.0GHz 1.25v

 

[lowdog]

So no one can do the wake from sleep test with the MEG?????

 

[cekim]

So no one can do the wake from sleep test with the MEG?????

I've got a bunch mangled in the BIOS at the moment and I'm putting on a water block. Not sure if it will produce a valid result, but I can try...

Tried to resume after about a minute...
- mouse would not resume
- keyboard would not resume
- hit reset... hang at code E1
- hit reset again... Brought me back into windows as at the same point I left off when I hit "sleep" from the taskbar menu.

So, something definitely amiss...

 

[lowdog]

yeah something is amiss...….Like I mentioned with the official bioses I could resume/wake form sleep sometimes if I tried to wake the system within a few minutes of having put it to sleep. Leave it a little longer like 15 - 20 - 30 minutes and hard freeze with debug 00 and hard power off at the wall socket was the only solution.


Well so I've been told by MSI Tech they have reproduced the issue and are working on a fix so lets see how long it takes...approaching the 1 week mark tomorrow so......

 

[lowdog]

And what bios setting is that that allows you to set wattage limit for cpu????


Is it a parameter only visible with Gen 2 TR or am I missing the obvious ????

 

[cekim]

And what bios setting is that that allows you to set wattage limit for cpu????


Is it a parameter only visible with Gen 2 TR or am I missing the obvious ????

1. Enable "expert" at the top of the OC page for "OC explore mode"
2. Go into "CPU Features"
3. Set Precision Boost Overdrive to "Manual"
- set Power/Current values as desired (make sure you understand what this means - a BOATLOAD of current will be sent your CPU's way!)

@ 4.1GHz 1.32v I'm seeing 450W sustained in RealBench stress...

If you open Ryzen Master, you will see these limits defaulting to 250W and 200A IIRC. I bumped them up to 650W and 600A (ludicrous values that the VRM can provide, but I can't likely cool, but I'm going slow with the voltage).

 

[lowdog]

Ok thanks, yes I've seen the PBO settings but they only work/apply with gen 2 TR so I'll look into them when I drop a 2950X in soon.

 

[ENTERPRISE]

Will certainly tap into this thread further once I get my 2990WX Build up and running with the MSI MEG Creation (Had to ditch Zenith Extreme as it does not have what it takes)

 

[cekim]

I've done pretty well with 4.1GHz OC so far, but what I am seeing so far is that PBO/xfr+ 4.2+ is asking for ludicrous voltages (1.45-1.5+) which are pretty terrifying coming from Intel 14nm OC. I'd much rather see peaks at 1.35-1.4.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around their architecture and voltage requirements - given that I know the chip will do all-core 4.1, I'd like to have it able to do 4.2+ on small jobs still have 4-4.1 for all-core work. I can't seem to find a config that does not either require uncomfortably high voltages or instability when allowed to be more dynamic.

 

[lowdog]

I thought the 2950X was supposed to be available on shelves today, 31st here in Aus!!!


So where is it????