You will be able to set a brighter white primary, since the channels will extend further in their saturation spectrum. The saturation may be a problem in the form of oversaturation, though. Depends on the calibration profile. Good displays avoid it altogether, however they may lack extended spectrums, as a consequence.

 

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You will be able to set a brighter white primary, since the channels will extend further in their saturation spectrum. The saturation may be a problem in the form of oversaturation, though. Depends on the calibration profile. Good displays avoid it altogether, however they may lack extended spectrums, as a consequence.

I see, is it more of a marketing gimmick than anything then?

Also is it possible to have a TN panel AND quantum dot technology at the same time?

 

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I see, is it more of a marketing gimmick than anything then?

Also is it possible to have a TN panel AND quantum dot technology at the same time?

TN is alignment, QD's are the upgraded individual crystals moving in the matrix. It can provide better characteristics either in colour reproduction, or in response time(the second is my digression).
I like Samsung. Lots of settings, top quality.
The thing with TN, however, is that it wouldn't make a good glossy display(colours wouldn't compare next to IPS' stained glass like immersiveness). Just a consequence of TN versus IPS. TN is better for movies(I'm committing treason by saying this) and IPS for eye-strain, text reading.
You will need an optical lens cleaner set for this very reason: matte reflection-inhibitor coatings are very hard to prevent scratches and stains from the coating without the necessary microfiber cloth & distilled cleaner duo. You can see that even the demonstration unit showcases this phenomenon. It's definitely good for preserving contrast in day-time ambient lighting conditions(as much as I love the tablet, I never take on direct sunlight with it). You will need to maintain the screen with its specific toolset regularly, nonetheless.

 

Looks like the CF791 will be my next monitor.

 

This CFG70 looks promising but I'm not so sure about that curve on a 27'' screen. When they're gonna be available?

 

Samsung C24FG70 (Google Translator)

Reveal at Gamescom this week, release probably around mid october.
VA-Panel, 144 Hz, 1 ms, 1080p, FreeSync, 449€

IMO a little bit too expensive for a 1080p monitor, but it's VA and has fancy quantum dot technology.

 

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It will be followed by their 3440x1440 100 Hz VA Freesync monitor with a R1500 mm curve, which they announced will be released Q4 of 2016.

 

Thats really not a terrible display for anyone looking at 24" monitors. Price will most likely be $399 USD here. Still would rather pay another $100 and get an MG279Q which would destroy that monitor in all but black levels. That's not to say black levels aren't important, but honestly with LCDs blacks will always be abysmal compared to something like OLED. VA does a decent job at giving LCDs nice blacks, but the pixel response of VAs is atrocious compared to a fast TN or IPS. For the love of god someone please introduce some OLED monitors that aren't five grand, or vaporware.

 

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Thats really not a terrible display for anyone looking at 24" monitors. Price will most likely be $399 USD here. Still would rather pay another $100 and get an MG279Q which would destroy that monitor in all but black levels. That's not to say black levels aren't important, but honestly with LCDs blacks will always be abysmal compared to something like OLED. VA does a decent job at giving LCDs nice blacks, but the pixel response of VAs is atrocious compared to a fast TN or IPS. For the love of god someone please introduce some OLED monitors that aren't five grand, or vaporware.

Response times on the 34E790C weren't as bad as the average AUO AMVA+. Considering that rated response times, despite not being accurate, are SOMEWHAT proportional to measured response times, considering Samsung rated it at 1ms, i have a very strong belief that this will be a very fast VA monitor. And it might just be the first worthy successor of the FG2421.

Here's hoping the 21:9 1440p VA that comes next will have commensurate response times.

 

The S34E790C had very good response times for a VA..
There was merely some fringing on certain dark colored edges, no long trails or anything like that.

http://www.sweclockers.com/test/20515-samsung-s34e790c-valvd-med-va-panel/4#content

 

A video showing the monitor:

 

No G-SYNC/ULMB monitors I take it? I'll check out the video when I get home. But G-SYNC is a requirement for me.

 

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No G-SYNC/ULMB monitors I take it? I'll check out the video when I get home. But G-SYNC is a requirement for me.

You'd have to look at Lenovo for that.

 

The C27FG70 has G-Sync, it is like the Lenovo but with 125% sRGB. Contrary to what was said in the original video, the 27'' is also FreeSync now.
The 24'' has Freesync and in the OP video the Menu shows a Low motion blur mode.

 

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The C27FG70 has G-Sync, it is like the Lenovo but with 125% sRGB.
The 24'' has Freesync and in the OP video the Menu shows a Low motion blur mode.

Both are 1080p though right? Ugh, I want 2560 x 1440 at least and even that wouldn't be a huge upgrade for me.

 

What is SVA panel? Is it closer to TN or IPS (PLS)?
Since they said it will be 144Hz with 1ms response time i'm curious how can it have 178°/178° viewing angles

 

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What is SVA panel? Is it closer to TN or IPS (PLS)?
Since they said it will be 144Hz with 1ms response time i'm curious how can it have 178°/178° viewing angles

SVA is a VA type panel developed by Samsung. Viewing angles are better than TN and worse than IPS. Considering it's heavily curved, my best guess is that viewing angles won't be a problem if you're sitting in an ideal position.

Technically speaking, it won't have 1 ms response times "like TN does", but they mention "1 ms" because it's pretty fast and it will have built-in strobing, which will help the monitor achieve CRT-like motion clarity.

 

So that means it has the same viewing angles as standard VA panels or?
I'm asking since i have VA panel and viewing angles are not any worse than on my IPS i have at the job.

Thanks btw for explaining it

 

"The VA panel also has minimized light leakage, so that darker scenes appear more uniform in low-light environments."

I hope this means good QC for BLB.

 

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So that means it has the same viewing angles as standard VA panels or?
I'm asking since i have VA panel and viewing angles are not any worse than on my IPS i have at the job.

Well, not every VA panel is exactly the same. If you want a rough estimate of how the viewing angles will be on the big 1440p 100 Hz model, you can look at the S34E790C.

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So that means it has the same viewing angles as standard VA panels or?
I'm asking since i have VA panel and viewing angles are not any worse than on my IPS i have at the job.

Thanks btw for explaining it

Better angles.
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"The VA panel also has minimized light leakage, so that darker scenes appear more uniform in low-light environments."

I hope this means good QC for BLB.

Previous Samsung PVA's with wide viewing cone adaptations(patterned) had less gamma shift issues, much like BLB, but more contrast loss when viewed head on(black crush). They look better at a tilt; however contrast shift still occurs which is like either of those two.
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"The VA panel also has minimized light leakage, so that darker scenes appear more uniform in low-light environments."

I hope this means good QC for BLB.

BLB will be less of an issue than with the 144 Hz IPS monitors I'm sure, since the QC is just so low for the latter. But someone really needs to release a high refresh rate SVA/SPVA VRR monitor with full array backlighting, that way we can really be at ease with BLB issues.

I'd be interested to see how full array local dimming would look on a 27" VA monitor with as many dimming zones as Sony's latest high end TVs (or whatever has the most now); due to the smaller size I wonder if the cons of local dimming won't materialize much with that many dimming zones? Because that could be potentially awesome (> 20,000:1 zone contrast ratio I believe) especially when matched with HDR technology.

 

Anyone actually believe 1ms on the C24FG70? They must have made a breakthrough with a new panel, because the ghosting has always been really bad on VA panels. This might be the best all-around gaming monitor if it's true.

 

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Anyone actually believe 1ms on the C24FG70? They must have made a breakthrough with a new panel, because the ghosting has always been really bad on VA panels. This might be the best all-around gaming monitor if it's true.

Ghosting hasn't always been bad or even existent on all VA panels, it is very unfortunate that many people blindly make this assumption. Also, manufacturer's quoted response time means next to nothing. If anything it is representative of the absolute minimum response time with maximum overdrive. It can hit somewhere around 1ms perhaps... with severe inverse ghosting due to excess overdrive. Several VA panels already have a minimum response time of under 3ms.

Samsung's own S34E790C, and many of their TVs show absolutely no ghosting and have response times just as good as fast 60 Hz IPS panels. This is why I'm quite confident that for all entertainment purposes, VA is potentially outright superior to IPS and TN. Problem is the best VA panels are mostly exclusive to TVs, and none of those top tier VA panels are paired with the technologies us gamers want (120 Hz refresh rate or more, variable refresh rate, blur reduction). Samsung is looking to change that soon, but only in 1080p and 21:9 and without blur reduction still.