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Side Case Fans - You're doing it WRONG.

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#1 ·
This is a spin off of a reply to a thread asking about cooling a computer.
i have had a few people argue with my point saying things like "heat rises" or "pushing cold air on the card is better"
the simple fact that side case fans as intake will actually increase your card and/or case temps.

- in short, side case fans should only ever be EXHAUST, if by the graphics card. -
- as stated before this was done up for another member of the site. from here out, its just a copy and paste -
- Lets get to the logic. -

here is your case with fans in the top, pretty good pictures also.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1309420/case-mod-ideas-needed-cooler-master-elite-430
if the fans arent super thick they will work just fine up top. you'll want to put the fans in first then put in the motherboard or you'll have a issue trying to get the screws in.
your clearance in that case for fans looks identical from the MB to the fans, as my cm690ii

here is a picture of your graphics card



as you can see the top section is not closed off.
so as the air is pushed down onto the headsink it will then flow threw the bottom


it will then be stopped by the card its self and be forced mostly out of the top part of the card
and for "Top" i mean the first picture i posted of it where the heat pipes are.
this portion of the card will be facing directly at the fan or very close to it.

if you point a fan at the card, that hot air gets trapped in the card for the most part.
this will result in higher temps and those temps will then heat up the internal air of the computer.

most people like to think that this is how cards and air flow work

however they couldnt be anymore wrong. even reference cards push hot air out of the sides and even portion of the card that faces the front of the case. before someone says no hot air comes out of the front, this isn't always true for all reference cards but for me has been common. while its not much heat there still is air that will come out there.

this is a good picture of how the air flow looks


now since cards are usually pretty tall and take up a good deal of room. you can almost call it a partition in the computer.
if you have + air from the front, and + air from the side, theres pretty much no place for that hot air to excape.
cards do have an external vent but they tend not to work all that well for dumping out hot air unless it is a reference card.

here is one last picture to show air flow of the card.

it does show the arrow going up for the side of the card, but that is only if the case has zero fans in it. the majority of that air will hit the side of the case and split into two major paths, vertical up and down.
this will cause hot air from the card to be recirculated back into the card.

with fans its pretty much the same issue, but if you place a fan blowing onto the card it forces pressure on that side escape to have resistance.

to really see the difference, run both configurations for yourself while stress testing the graphics card. keep the fans at a constant % using msi after burner or another application that will let you see both temps and fanspeed.
then do another test with auto % for fan and stress test again to watch what configuration will make the fan spike higher.
side fan being an exhaust will always win.

going to repost this as a full thread also. many of the community members are doing this totally wrong.
 
#2 ·
I agree with you, with the exception of video cards that use "reference" (blow out the back) coolers. I've always gotten better results with intake side fans in this situation. But, yes I have used an Accellero Extreme cooler on a few cards and having side fans as exhaust work much better.
 
#4 ·
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

Also, most Side panel fan mounts don't have dust filter (you have to buy a magnetic dust filter yourself), which means you would introduce dust into your graphic card if you setup the side panel fan as an intake.
i have 2 of those magnetic dust filters.. they arent good at blocking dust at all.
but you have a very good point.
in my cm680ii i don't even use a fan on the top 140 fan port just because of that. just have the magnetic filter there.
 
#5 ·
Hmm. The idea here makes sense. I'm going to have to try that out for myself!
One situation where I found a side intake was helpful for temperatures was when I had a crossfire setup with no space between the cards (that seemed to be the only configuration where I could get enough air to the top card, cool or otherwise). But, it didn't seem to help the bottom card at all, so I suspect there may be something to this.
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by frogger4 View Post

Hmm. The idea here makes sense. I'm going to have to try that out for myself!
One situation where I found a side intake was helpful for temperatures was when I had a crossfire setup with no space between the cards (that seemed to be the only configuration where I could get enough air to the top card, cool or otherwise). But, it didn't seem to help the bottom card at all, so I suspect there may be something to this.
if you would, post the before and after results. would love to see some confirmed numbers.
 
#8 ·
depends on the exact placement of the side fan. If it is directly flush on the side or above the card then yes this makes good sense, but if the fan is a bit lower and their is a typical exhaust fan at the back of the case then it would be better to have the side fan as intake.

Also I don't think it will make much difference one way or the other with most side fans being pretty low CFM anyway.
 
#10 ·
Case don`t have side dust filter because they clearly mention the side panel is for exhaust. I know I have a CM690ii
By the way, I think side case fan are utterly useless. Unless you really need better flow for your graphic cards, I prefer the air to go all the way to the top where all my exhaust fans are.
 
#11 ·
Case don`t have side dust filter because they clearly mention the side panel is for exhaust. I know I have a CM690ii
By the way, I think side case fan are utterly useless. Unless you really need better flow for your graphic cards, I prefer the air to go all the way to the top where all my exhaust fans are.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by trulsrohk View Post

depends on the exact placement of the side fan. If it is directly flush on the side or above the card then yes this makes good sense, but if the fan is a bit lower and their is a typical exhaust fan at the back of the case then it would be better to have the side fan as intake.

Also I don't think it will make much difference one way or the other with most side fans being pretty low CFM anyway.
under about 100% gpu load i dropped about 10-20c
i have a cm690ii and the bottom fan is actually under the graphics card.
 
#13 ·
Nice picture (the one at the top).It clearly shows that there is no cold,clean air moving over the motherboard,the cpu cooler,vrm's.All it shows is hot air exiting.Now where this air came from is anybody's guess.Plan to eliminate this oversight ,and not from side case fans,leave them off,in fact leave the entire side of the case off.
 
#14 ·
This is prolly fine and dandy if your vid card is next to the side fan, but if it's next to the CPU fan you don't want it trying to pull air away from the fan that's trying to draw air in to cool it. That's really what side case fans were for in the first place. Most pre-built computers like Dells/Gateways/etc have ducts that run to the side from the CPU fan. Homebuilts don't have the duct but the CPU fan is still there trying to draw air in.
 
#15 ·
My 5830 puts heat out on the side and front of the card as well as the back... So that would explain why I dropped an average of 10C when I ditched the Tornado I had with a side intake fan...
 
#19 ·
It's entirely situational. Blower type coolers definitely benefit from a side intake fan. Also look at the Nvidia classified/FTW cards with the blower design as well as a backplate. Having fresh air rolling onto that thing would do wonders for gpu temps since it works just like a heatsink.
 
#22 ·
I go by the rules that side fans should be in whatever configuration results in the best temps for a given setup
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I generally think that the use of a side fan is counterproductive as it ruins the "air tunnel" effect of a computer case, but as cases have become more complex it makes sense that they can be beneficial for some cases (pun intended).
 
#23 ·
Way too many variables to make a blanket statement like that. With a reference blower graphics card you may get the opposite results and prefer the side as an intake.

The ONLY correct answer is to face the side fan one way, monitor all your temps, then flip it over and check again. It only takes a few minutes
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#24 ·
If TL;DR, skip to the last paragraph, otherwise read it all!

I have set out to empirically test the hypothesis posed by Jollyriffic using my own computer (the middle one listed in my signature).

Relevant hardware:
Chassis: Nzxt Vulcan - this is a small enclosure with a mostly mesh side panel
Side panel fan: Nzxt Airflow 120mm, tested at a "low" and "high" speed. It is positioned on top of the psu, oriented right at the gpu on the graphics card.
CPU: i5-3570K, 4.2 GHz
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970, tested at 950MHz stock, 1100MHz OC - this is a dual fan, open air type cooler.


One front 120mm intake, one top-rear 120mm exhaust, and one 120mm side intake or exhaust.

Procedure:
Fix the GPU's fan at 75% for all tests. Record GPU temperature after ~5 minutes of 720p FurMark burn in test for the following configurations: No side fan, side air intake, and side air exhaust, and at "high" and "low" speeds side fan speeds for each, and at stock and overclock speeds for each. Additionally, do the same, but with Prime 95 blend test on 2 cores to create heat from the CPU as well, and record CPU temperatures.

Results:
Idle temperatures were consistently 28C for the GPU and ~24C for the CPU.

Lower is better for all graphs.










Analysis and conclusions:
It is clear that for this setup having the side fan exhaust did not help GPU temperatures, but rather the opposite appears to be true. In all tests, the configuration with a side intake yielded cooler GPU temperatures compared to no side fan and a side exhaust fan.
Having a side fan improved CPU temperatures over no side fan, and a side exhaust shows just slightly lower CPU temperatures over an intake. I conjecture this is because hot air is removed from the GPU and does not get mixed into the CPU air, given the position of the CPU heatsink right where some air exhausts from the GPU.
Also tested was the effect of fan speed on GPU temperature. With a side intake, the higher speed did not lower temperatures. With a side exhaust, the higher speed lowered GPU temperatures, but not as much as either speed with an intake. CPU temperatures generally improved with the higher fan speed in either direction.

Additional:
I do not think my Nzxt Vulcan is very representative of most people's enclosures. Although these results conclusively favor a side intake for my rig, I don't think that will be true for everyone, and is worth experimenting with.
 
#25 ·
nice test.
to make it more like a standard case, could you try blocking off all of the grill on the side excluding the fan?
maybe just take paper and some painters tape.
"Ducktape" said their 200mm fan yielded worse results also doing exhaust.

maybe we should start a test thread down the road, to show cases and their best configurations.
for my cm690ii i tried every option i could with all the fan ports. for me, the single bottom fan as exhaust gave the best results but also ended up taking out the rear fan and had dual 140mm fans in the top as exhaust. front fan remained untouched.
 
#26 ·
Interesting thread indeed. I was planning to mount 4 Noiseblocker M12 S2 on my 600T side panel to bring lots of fresh air in (with 200mm + 1x 120 intake in front, 2x 120 exhaust at the top and the standard 120mm exhaust at the back) If I ever get to test this configuration I'll come back with some results
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