Drugs, not even once

 

Same exact marketing material AMD tried to push back when they had a "true" quad core with a single die, and Intel was just two glued together Core 2 Duos.

Everything about the slide is pure marketing designed to make the reader think less of AMD. From calling Intel's stuff Data Center and AMD the platform name, makes AMD sound like it isnt the right material for real use. The glued together comment tries to make AMD look like they are just copbbling together random stuff and trying to sell it off as good while Intel was designed good from the start. The poor track record is completely made up on the basis AMD hasd a supply issue here and there, but leaves out the fact Intel has had their own supply issues now and then as well and Intel has also had far more product failures and replacements due to design bugs the past few years. The whole SW ecosystem thing is somewhat, marginally true. But in the end they are both drivers and I doubt too many people in Data centers sit around looking all day at Intel driver utilities and rather look at their real performance software.

 

whos cares how they word it to attract or keep consumers
if customer dont what really is going on its their own fault

 

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Originally Posted by EniGma1987

Same exact marketing material AMD tried to push back when they had a "true" quad core with a single die, and Intel was just two glued together Core 2 Duos.

This actually did come to mind when I was posting this. Wasn't that during the Core 2 Quad days?

 

Q6600 and its colleagues, yep.

 

Core2quad and Penitium D.

 

what's wrong with gluing cores?

 

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Originally Posted by François Piednoël
I remember time when people where screaming at me because Pentium D multi-dice packaging was not a "real CPU" ... funny how they changed

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Originally Posted by Nedjo Kovacevic
You're engineer and you know the difference between using chipset NB to communicate between dies and coherent fabric. PD was forced reaction

https://mobile.twitter.com/NedjoK/status/870549489957957632

 

Poor Intel, wrecked by nvidia on one end and unraveled by AMD on the other end...

 

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Originally Posted by dieanotherday

what's wrong with gluing cores?

According to intel, it makes your processor less worthy, even though they did it first.

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Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01

Poor Intel, wrecked by nvidia on one end and unraveled by AMD on the other end...

Well, they only have themselves to blame. Too big to fall? My arse.

 

While I recall Phenom marketed as "DA TRUE QUADCORE CPU" and making jabs at Intel's C2Q as glued together, that is some dirty marketing coming from Intel, and it kinda shows that they're unsettled by Zen arch in general.

AMD needs to make another "Fixer" video where the guy comes to replace Intel CPU's, first in desktop segment, then in server/workstation segment.

 

Everything about that intel slide screams BS. Lack of ecosystem? Pffft

 

plz glue more dies together, i want 32 cores for cheap.

 

Couldn't this be considered a benefit especially in terms of cost?

 

Well, at least this time gluing done right... unlike previously by you know whom.

 

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Originally Posted by Artikbot

According to intel, it makes your processor less worthy, even though they did it first.

Well, they only have themselves to blame. Too big to fall? My arse.

It's embarrassing to watch though

 

Unclassy move by intel. Really, "poor track record, lack of ecosystem", amd has been idle for 5 years duh like they can't change all of that with a great product. They should've just added some profanity to the slides to make the insults complete and make it look like it came from the ghetto...

 

If they're this scared about Ryzen I can't imagine what they'll do when Ryzen 2 arrives on 7nm

 

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Originally Posted by dieanotherday

plz glue more dies together, i want 32 cores for cheap.

AMD's next gen 7nm "Starship" CPUs (what a sweet codename!) are supposed to feature up to 48 cores so either we're gonna get 6 dies glued together or they're going to move to 12 core dies. Hoping for the latter because I'm ready for my 12 core Ryzen 7 2700.

 

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Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01

It's embarrassing to watch though

It is.

I would've hoped they had more style, especially given how they want to show themselves as the 'serious' supplier.

 

Glued die can be a **** show for gaming... but it's not really the case for data center, after all, it's like having multiple processor in one socket instead of multiple CPU in multiple socket. As for gaming, if one of your GPU use the PCIe bandwidth of one your CPU die and your 2nd GPU use the PCIe bandwidth of another die, that can seriously introduce a lot of latency, every time the first CPU need to talk to the 2nd GPU, it will have to talk with the 2nd CPU first and then this CPU will talk with the 2nd GPU.... I can not really think of any other scenario where it would affects performance like this, but who care, you don't buy these chips for gaming loll. They are certainly capable of gaming but they are not meant for that.

 

AMD...you go boy!

 

Threadripper and Epyc chips are designed to be glued together from the get go. Pentium D and C2Q had to use the damn NB on the motherboard to talk between cores... now THAT's just glued together.

 

Infinity Fabric. That's my name,don't wear it out.

 

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Originally Posted by Artikbot

According to intel, it makes your processor less worthy, even though they did it first.

I lol'd at the title. I distinctly remember Barcelona announcement vs the Core 2 Quads and the marketing that ensued.