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Cable Sewing Tutorial

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#1 ·
I recently sleeved my first set of cables and thought it would be cool to sew them neatly together like I saw in the "CaseLabs TH10 Red and Black Build" build log from P3nnywise. I did a little research and found a 4 part video on cable sewing from
. This video does show you how to sew the wires together, but parts of it are hard to see what is going on. I watched it many times until I figured out the process and then proceeded to sew several power cables together. I posted some pics of the results in my build log and a few people requested a tutorial.

So, here it is: (Click on any photo to get the larger version)

The thread is important. I found this heavy duty "Button & Carpet" thread in the "Speciality" thread section of the fabric store. This is 74% poly and 26% cotton. It doesn't stretch and it is not smooth so it has some friction.



Next is curved needles. I started with straight needles and quickly found them hard to use. You need two of the same size so I had to buy two packages.



So, you start by just tying the thread to two curved needles:



The example I will use is two sets of 6-pin GPU power cables. Each GPU power cable is 2 rows of 3 wires. So, when I put them together, I have a total of 2 rows of 6 wires.

You start by putting both needles through the first "stack" of 2 wires:



This first knot starts with a loop like this:



Then you bend it over so it looks like this:



This first knot is hard to explain. The trick that Frank N. Stein shows in his video is easy to see the motion.

Then you put both needles through it like this:



And you end up with a knot like this:



Then you pull it tight:

This leather thimble will save your finger! Trust me, go get one from the fabric store.



Next, choose a spacing you want and adjust this first knot to where you want it. I used 30mm because I liked the way it kept the cable straight or curved as I completed each sewn line.



Now, "tie off" this first knot and move it to either the top or bottom of the cable. Remember that the final knot will be on the side where this first knot is.



Now flip the cable over so that the knot is up and put the first needle through the next "stack" of wires like this:



And pull the thread through:



Now put the other needle through that same stack of wires.



And pull the thread through: Be sure you have put the threads through the correct set of two wires. It is easy to get the wrong ones. Also be sure not to cross the threads. It will look better in the end if the threads do not cross each other.



Now flip the cable over and take the needle from the thread on the right and put the needle through the threads around the first "stack" of wires. Use the space between the stacked wires. This is where the videos said to just use the bare thread and push it through this gap. Well, I had trouble doing that so that's how I started to just use needles.



And pull the thread through:



Now take the needle from the thread on the left and put the needle through the same threads around the first "stack" of wires, but in the opposite direction like this:



And pull the thread through:



Now, pull the threads tight. Here is wher you make sure the wires are stacked the way you want them. You would also add any curve or bend in the overall cable here so that the threads keep the cable to the shape you want.



Now, take the thread from the left and push its needle between the two stacks of wires to the right side like this: the trick here is to use the length of the curved needle to slide in-between the two stacks of wires. If you try to simple push the needle straight through, you will likely skewer the sleeving and then the sew line will not be able to be moved and adjusted.



Push the needle all the way through:



Then pull the thread through:



Now, take the thread from the right and push its needle between the two stacks of wires to the left side like this:



Pull the thread through and then flip the cable over and pull both threads tight:



Then, tie off the threads like this:



Now, you are in a similar position as when you tied off the first knot.

So, you push the needles through the next stack of wires like this:



You flip the cable over and push the needle through the gap between this new stack like this:



Pull the threads through, push the needles through the right and left sides as before, flip the cable and pull both threads tight, as before:



Tie off this knot and repeat the process until this line is done. You tie off the last stack with a triple knot and then a tough of glue to make sure it doesn't come undone.



Flip the cable over and see the "good" side (without the knot)



This is the basic process. It took me about 15 minutes for each sew line for these two 6-pin GPU power cables

This process can work on any set of cables with 2 rows of wires like the CPU power cable, the GPU power cables, and the 24-pin ATX cable. Each sew line of the 24-pin cable took me about 40 minutes.

At 30mm spacing between sew lines, the time to sew the full length of a cable adds up!

Cheers,
 
#5 ·
First of all....thanks. +rep a thousand times. It's amazing what doing this does to the asthetics of a build. Anyone that hasn't seen Pongo's build log should go check out the pics.

Question: In you build log pictures, you have a perfect curve going with the 24pin when it is transitioning. Was that tough to do? I'd assume the spacing on the sewed line has to be adjusted a little bit?
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post
Question: In you build log pictures, you have a perfect curve going with the 24pin when it is transitioning. Was that tough to do? I'd assume the spacing on the sewed line has to be adjusted a little bit?
It wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. You have to keep adjusting the bend in the cable every time you tighten a new knot within a sew line. That way, the sew line will try to keep the shape of the overall cable. But, this tight bend is what made me look for those curved needles. I would have never been able to get a straight needle into those inside radius knots. I used the smaller of the curved needles for that section.

This is the cable he is referring to:



Cheers,
 
#7 ·
It just looks so perfect. I know you still have a few stray wires to take care of...but this could end up as the best cable management of any build I've ever seen. Even the PSU side of your build is beautiful.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

It just looks so perfect. I know you still have a few stray wires to take care of...but this could end up as the best cable management of any build I've ever seen. Even the PSU side of your build is beautiful.
Thanks cpachris, that's means a lot comming from someone with such an ecip build as your BBB!

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Originally Posted by WiSK View Post

Well done, great guide +REP
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What about using clear thread like nylon fishing line or something?
Thanks WiSK. Since I spent sooo much time on the cable sewing, I wanted it to be seen. But, if you don't want it seen, then nylon fishing line might work. I tried some 100% poly thread and it was stretchy and smooth. The stretchyness I just didn't like. The smoothness didn't hold the wires together after I pulled the threads tight. So, the wires would spread apart before I could tie them off.

Cheers,
 
#14 ·
I'm shopping for curved needles and found these for 4$:

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Problem is I get 3 of them but in different sizes, no two needles that are equal, is that really an issue? Is it must to buy two packs?

Btw, I just a found a seller for the exact same nylon bead used in the FrankNSteinPC video:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NO-STRETCH-NYLON-BEAD-CORD-THREAD-NECKLACE-STRINGING-10-COLOURS-4-Sizes-/180971423560?pt=UK_Crafts_JewelleryMaking_GL&var=&hash=item2a22bcc748

They have the exact size and length product! order while they last.
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Edit:

Bought 3 of these:

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and one in white...who knows, maybe I'll find use for it with white sleeving or something.

* I noticed each size comes in specific length. E.g., Size 6 only comes in 18 yards.
** If you order via ebay.co.uk you get the option to shop with a cart so you can instantly get the combined shipping cost (without messaging the seller).
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by adi518 View Post

Problem is I get 3 of them but in different sizes, no two needles that are equal, is that really an issue? Is it must to buy two packs?
I used the two different sized curved needles in one package for a short time. I bought the second package so that I could have two large curved needles and two small curved needles. I like using the same size curved needles for a single sew line. I use the small ones for tight radius cable bends and the larger ones for everything else.

I don't think I would use 100% nylon thread if it is smooth. I like the poly/cotton blend threads because they have a texture that gives them some friction. This friction will hold the wires in place while I "tie off" the knot.

Cheers,
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by Pongo View Post

I don't think I would use 100% nylon thread if it is smooth. I like the poly/cotton blend threads because they have a texture that gives them some friction. This friction will hold the wires in place while I "tie off" the knot.Cheers,
You refer to the Beadsmith stuff?

I dunno, in the FrankNSteinPC video, he says that he tried many types until he found this one which works the best. I guess he wouldn't have recommended it otherwise. :|~
 
#17 ·
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Originally Posted by adi518 View Post

You refer to the Beadsmith stuff?
I dunno, Frank says on his video that he tried many types until he found this one which works good, I guess he wouldn't have recommended it otherwise. :|~
Not specifically. I do not know if the Beadsmith thread is smooth or not. If it is smooth, then it would not work well for me.

Cheers,
 
#18 ·
Aha. Well, I have no clue... I guess if it worked for FrankNSteinPC through out his entire rig, it should work for me.
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Guys, the "official" name of such needles is called "curved quilt needles". Better use that term when searching for them.

Found same ones used in this tut: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-Sewing-Repair-Needles-Assorted-by-Dritz-Notion-D54-/150511311330?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230b2c59e2

Also found these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-DRITZ-BLUE-RIBBON-CURVED-NEEDLES-TYING-QUILTS-UPHOLSTERY-2-SIZES-/150896362003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23221fc213

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quilters-Curved-Needles-by-Collins-Item-W-326-/160497979683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255e6cd123

Good thing about them is you get 2x of the same size.
 
#19 ·
Well done - I really like the colors used - "Frank N Stein" would be proud!

Nice tutorial BTW, good detailed pictures. FYI, the reason I chose the non-stretch nylon after multiple other kinds was due to minimal breakages during the sew - sucks when you get 3/4 of the way through a row and snap - #$%^&*()_+ seems to fly right afterwards. Yeah, about 40 min per row is about right, and yes it does add up.
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by Frank N. Stein View Post

Well done - I really like the colors used - "Frank N Stein" would be proud!
Nice tutorial BTW, good detailed pictures. FYI, the reason I chose the non-stretch nylon after multiple other kinds was due to minimal breakages during the sew - sucks when you get 3/4 of the way through a row and snap - #$%^&*()_+ seems to fly right afterwards. Yeah, about 40 min per row is about right, and yes it does add up.
Yah! Nice of you to stop by.
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Your videos showed me the way, I just added some clarity with a few still photos
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Cheers,
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by adi518 View Post

I brought him here all the way from youtube.
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True statement - lol, though I had a login here for a while, he did show me the way..........
 
#24 ·
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Originally Posted by Radmanhs View Post

that is really cool, maybe if you want ro make it a bit more clear. make a video of it and show how to do each step instead of only pics
Thanks, there is already a video. From the original post in this thread: "I did a little research and found a 4 part video on cable sewing from
. ".

Cheers,