[MishelLngelo]

Welcome and thank you for help.
Now i start with DOCP(4400mhz cl19) profile but Dram set to 3600mhz soc 1,15v dram 1,45v rest AUTO. Itry look that BIOS(5843)how much go up to max Ram OC (IMC).Later on i try 5861 .System start and docp set first number cl 20 not 19.Rest XMP is normally to this xmp profile.I start Hwinfo and TM5(0.12). First cycle not error but in 2 cycle start showing error.
And this is strange ,or maybe IMC controler over ? Maybe this is max?

Yes, you might be overloading IMC and there's no FCLK in 2000 series Ryzen. This BIOS is pretty smart, doesn't always follow XMP exactly. That's similar( but opposite) in my case, XMP says Cl17 but it sets it at Cl16 for 3600MHz.
Maybe you should try different way, set DOCP on lower XMP and raise frequency and a bit of voltage if needed. That's how I se my RAM , first DOCP which is according to XMP 3000MHz and memory at 3600MHz so now it runs at 3600 with settings for 3000 with Cl16. which gives best overall memory performance.

 

[LtAldoRaine]

Yes, you might be overloading IMC and there's no FCLK in 2000 series Ryzen. This BIOS is pretty smart, doesn't always follow XMP exactly. That's similar( but opposite) in my case, XMP says Cl17 but it sets it at Cl16 for 3600MHz.
Maybe you should try different way, set DOCP on lower XMP and raise frequency and a bit of voltage if needed. That's how I se my RAM , first DOCP which is according to XMP 3000MHz and memory at 3600MHz so now it runs at 3600 with settings for 3000 with Cl16. which gives best overall memory performance.

it's great that you are with me
Interest think Asus officially SUPPORT 3600mhz memory for 2000 series cpu.Look this list https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...4/PRIME_X470-PRO/PRIME-X470-PRO-memory-QVL-Ryzen-2nd--Generation-processors.pdf
Only 2 kit ,but do it that !
Xmp give me only first 4 number automatic rest must try manual ,maybe thats cause have that error. TRc is 84 . XMP4200 is Trc 133 or 69 for 44000mhz. Anyway i go to 3660.And back to discusion.

 

[MishelLngelo]

it's great that you are with me
Interest think Asus officially SUPPORT 3600mhz memory for 2000 series cpu.Look this list https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...4/PRIME_X470-PRO/PRIME-X470-PRO-memory-QVL-Ryzen-2nd--Generation-processors.pdf
Only 2 kit ,but do it that !
Xmp give me only first 4 number automatic rest must try manual ,maybe thats cause have that error. TRc is 84 . XMP4200 is Trc 133 or 69 for 44000mhz. Anyway i go to 3660.And back to discusion.

I had 2700x before this 3700x in same setup an it also worked this same way. Difference is that 3000 series have FCLK on separate chiplet and is adjustable although in Auto mode it follows set RAM speed not DOCP setting. That gives nice performance because of 1:1;1 ratio. I really don't know if 2700x has adjustable FCLK. Without that ratio higher frequency can even produce worse overall RAM performance. In case of my 3600MHz Kingston (Samsung b-die) changing FCLK up or down from 1800MHz. (base or half efective frequebcy) produces higher memory and L3 Cache latency.

 

[LtAldoRaine]

I had 2700x before this 3700x in same setup an it also worked this same way. Difference is that 3000 series have FCLK on separate chiplet and is adjustable although in Auto mode it follows set RAM speed not DOCP setting. That gives nice performance because of 1:1;1 ratio. I really don't know if 2700x has adjustable FCLK. Without that ratio higher frequency can even produce worse overall RAM performance. In case of my 3600MHz Kingston (Samsung b-die) changing FCLK up or down from 1800MHz. (base or half efective frequebcy) produces higher memory and L3 Cache latency.

New BIOS flashed 5861
Is not bad i hope all test 4cycle 2 error .I now 1 is to much but thats good for now.
3600mhz cl14-14-14-28-42-1T trfc is to high 630 ! Soc 1.1v Dram1.45v . Digi VRM cpu 130%LLC3 SOC120% LLC 2. rest setup in AUTO cpu too
One more ,i dont now in windows my DRAM voltage HWINFO why dont see that ? ? ?
OMG is 01:25 for now thanks good night
EDIT : 15:00 CET ,Next day next issue or maybe no issue ?! When Pc start give me 3 beeps signal from speaker MOBO.Computer go to windows normally and start TM5 .Results (3cycle 5min),NO ERROR ,***?

 

[LtAldoRaine]

Few hour and Game 2-3 times crash , next BSOD ..i going down to 3466 dram 1.4v Soc Auto(hwinfo 1,087v).Di9gi vrm Auto to beacose BSOD propably to high temperature VRM I tuch when be 3600set and be in my opinion min 90c rly hot ,Ram too.
Now 3466 cl14-14-14-28 -42 Trfc312 TM5 (3cycle)without error.

 

[xeizo]

Few hour and Game 2-3 times crash , next BSOD ..i going down to 3466 dram 1.4v Soc Auto(hwinfo 1,087v).Di9gi vrm Auto to beacose BSOD propably to high temperature VRM I tuch when be 3600set and be in my opinion min 90c rly hot ,Ram too.
Now 3466 cl14-14-14-28 -42 Trfc312 TM5 (3cycle)without error.

Regarding VRM, I removed the white plastic shroud over the VRM(it's easy) and have fans blowing on the VRM from the top of the case(contrary to the chimney effect, I go for overpressure to get cool air on the VRM, as a side effect dust can't come into the box). Keeps the VRM cool, it's not the beefiest VRM only 240A absolute max, the C8E has 1600A LoL

 

[eBombzor]

Anyone notice the new chipset driver that released yesterday?

PRIME X470-PRO｜Motherboards｜ASUS USA

ASUS Prime motherboards are expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, these ASUS motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

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AMD Chipset driver 3.10.22.706

 

[MishelLngelo]

Anyone notice the new chipset driver that released yesterday?

PRIME X470-PRO｜Motherboards｜ASUS USA

ASUS Prime motherboards are expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, these ASUS motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

AMD Chipset driver 3.10.22.706

No, I didn't (until now) still using 3.10.08.506 from AMD site. Either one is necessary for W11.

 

[radier]

What are your bets on Zen 3 3D-VCache support on X470/B450 platform? I am sure that nothing from the hardware side prevents the new processors from being compatible. Only a political decision. Thanks to Alder Lake I think we might get lucky.

 

[MishelLngelo]

I expect much of motherboard manufacturer's resistance, much like PCIe v4 for which also no real HW a FW cause not to implement.

 

[el.ed.leite]

I put my hands on a Asus Prime x470 Pro, this board has a "usb over current status detected" problem. I heard that some boards can be flashed with BIOS from other manufacturer . Does anyone know or heard of a compatible BIOS from other label for this board?
Thanks in advance.

 

[BeetleatWar1977]

I put my hands on a Asus Prime x470 Pro, this board has a "usb over current status detected" problem. I heard that some boards can be flashed with BIOS from other manufacturer . Does anyone know or heard of a compatible BIOS from other label for this board?
Thanks in advance.

Check the rear USB Ports, most times it is a bent pin or shielding making a short......

 

[xeizo]

I thought my X470-Prime Pro had died on me, it just quit at the Windows desktop and then wouldn't start no matter what. Powercycling could get me into the bios, but no further. BUT, of course it was the graphics card that had died, a Geforce GTX1660 Super not even two years old. Thanks Jensen! It was perfect timing right in the middle of the gpu shortage. Second Nvidia card dying on me, last was a 1080 Ti.
Thankfully I had a old GTX970 not being used I could put in the box to verify, it works perfect only thing it sounds like a harvesting machine. That is a beat up 970, did a couple of years as a gaming gpu then was stuck in a 24/7 server for a couple of years but still going strong - and noisy. Anyway, nothing wrong with the motherboard!

edit. The GTX970 can do Skyrim Anniversary Edition with 30+ mods at 2560x1080 at mostly 60 fps, it's usable but sounds like a tornado. At 3440x1440 it's down at 40 fps and is stuttering, but 2560x1080 is smooth. Too bad, the now demised 1660 Super did 3440x1440 at a steady 60 fps and being silent at that. Well, well, it will have to do as there in reality is nothing worth buying right now. I have other boxes for performance hungry stuff, but at least this one is working again for when I need to use it.

 

[criminala]

Can someone tell me the difference between setting the PBO2 limit to "auto" or "disabled" ?
I am talking about the BIOS advanced menu : advanced - cpu overclocking - PBO - limit

I got a 5800x cpu and not sure what to set there .
My curve optimizer is set at a negative 30 for all cores .



Second question :
How to get a stable 100 bclk on this board when virtualisation in the bios is activated .

 

[ntll]

dell

 

[eBombzor]

New Year new BIOS.

"Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b" is the only thing on here

ASUS Prime Motherboards｜Motherboards｜ASUS USA

Prime motherboards are designed for everyone, combining reliability, EZ DIY, and AI PC features like ASUS AI Advisor to simplify and power every build.

www.asus.com

 

[criminala]

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New Year new BIOS.

"Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.6b" is the only thing on here

ASUS Prime Motherboards｜Motherboards｜ASUS USA

Prime motherboards are designed for everyone, combining reliability, EZ DIY, and AI PC features like ASUS AI Advisor to simplify and power every build.

www.asus.com

Why the big bold message of the beta status if the only change is an updated Agesa ?

 

[radier]

Because AGESA itself can be bugged.

 

[criminala]

Because AGESA itself can be bugged.

but why for this specific bios with updated agesa and not for any previous ones

 

[radier]

Who cares about labels? Do you think non-Beta means bug free?