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#661 ·
mikethemidget92 said:
Unfortunately the hard limits of the Ventus are holding me back! I am struggling desperately to push this thing any further. Temps are NOT an issue with this loop though. Steady 52C @ 2100mhz under load and stress test.

My custom curve is stable ONLY at 2115mhz @ 1.025v, I cannot seem to get it any higher and stable/pass the 3d mark test even at higher voltages. It almost refuses to increase past 1.025 ish

I have previously flashed the Suprim X bios to my Ventus, are there bios/cards that will allow >330w from MSI that would work?

Time Spy Score 16224
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I think perhaps you are not understanding how Nvidia works. Temps are your issue there actually even though you don't think it is. For example: On my setup I have my 3070 Ti from EVGA that would run around 2015~2025 Mhz with 1.10v in a custom water loop when I had temps for the card hovering around 53~56c when gaming. I thought I wouldn't be able to get it to overclock any higher like you think now. Then I added a bigger radiator to the loop with more fans and now I can keep my 3070 Ti down at 41~44c, always at < 45c. Just by reducing the temps of the core in the card without changing anything else (and even on the same bios with the same power limit) now I an run up to 2205 Mhz on my 3070 Ti. With Nvidia for every -8 or -12c (I can't remember the exact gradient off hand right now) it results in more +Mhz core clock all the way down to around 25c. People proved this with the 10-series with Pascal and the 1080 Ti. It still applies to the current Nvidia cards too. With the 1080 Ti it was only about +25 Mhz per about -10c but it seems to be a lot more mhz per -10c with the 30 series cards. If you could some how reduce your temps of your card it would likely run faster as long as you aren't triggering any limits (power limit for example).
 
#662 ·
kithylin said:
I think perhaps you are not understanding how Nvidia works. Temps are your issue there actually even though you don't think it is. For example: On my setup I have my 3070 Ti from EVGA that would run around 2015~2025 Mhz with 1.10v in a custom water loop when I had temps for the card hovering around 53~56c when gaming. I thought I wouldn't be able to get it to overclock any higher like you think now. Then I added a bigger radiator to the loop with more fans and now I can keep my 3070 Ti down at 41~44c, always at < 45c. Just by reducing the temps of the core in the card without changing anything else (and even on the same bios with the same power limit) now I an run up to 2205 Mhz on my 3070 Ti. With Nvidia for every -8 or -12c (I can't remember the exact gradient off hand right now) it results in more +Mhz core clock all the way down to around 25c. People proved this with the 10-series with Pascal and the 1080 Ti. It still applies to the current Nvidia cards too. With the 1080 Ti it was only about +25 Mhz per about -10c but it seems to be a lot more mhz per -10c with the 30 series cards. If you could some how reduce your temps of your card it would likely run faster as long as you aren't triggering any limits (power limit for example).
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Thats actually excellent news!

I was hoping for an excuse to add another 360mm rad haha

I've read plenty of people keeping the cards in the 40s and achieving mobster clocks.

I will definitely be pursuing an extra 360mm in the rad as I've got the space for one and I would love to keep everything icy cold.

How much further can I seriously push a 3070 ti though given it's already at 2115mhz? 2205 is a hugeeee clock.

With a single d5 pump and 960mm of radiator suret that would keep me in the mid 40s?
 
#663 ·
mikethemidget92 said:
How much further can I seriously push a 3070 ti though given it's already at 2115mhz? 2205 is a hugeeee clock.

With a single d5 pump and 960mm of radiator suret that would keep me in the mid 40s?
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It depends on a lot of factors. What coolant you use in the loop. What kind of fan setup you have on the radiators. What your ambient / room temps are. Etc. I'm in a very hot climate where it averages about 110~115 F / 43~46 C daily. I do have a window air conditioner running but I can't get the temps in the computer room where my computer is below 82F / 28c in that room even with the a/c on. It can only do so much with this heat so my needs for water cooling might be a lot higher than yours. I need A LOT of radiator to get any decent temps for my card. Here's an idea of my setup: Before with my 1080 Ti I have several radiators that are "dual core" radiators. That is: Hardware Labs put two radiator cores in a super thick frame so it's double the capacity despite it's mm size. So internally inside the computer case I had: 120mm double (240mm reality), 240 mm double (480mm real) and a single 360mm slim and a single 240mm slim. Which totaled out to 1320mm of radiator. I had 2 Swiftech MCP-355 pumps with an aftermarket dual-pump-top that combined em together and that was enough to keep my 1080 Ti at 36~43c even with it running with a no-power-limit bios, 1.20v, and a big overclock to 2177 Mhz core and +700 memory. But then I put my 3070 Ti in the same loop setup and it was running 50~56c. It was later when I managed to get lucky and find a rare radiator on ebay one day. A hardware labs dual core one again but this time in 560mm flavor so it's actually a 1120mm radiator. It's huge, won't fit inside the case and so I had to just lay it in the floor beside it outside the case and run tubes through the case out to it. So now I have 2440mm of radiator and I'm able to keep my 3070 Ti down at 40~44c finally. And about my comment earlier: My card can only hit 2205 Mhz in a couple games that are low'ish load. Most games it runs 2170. But again I'm in a super hot environment so you might not need as much radiator if you're not in a hot area. Also if you're already at 2115 then you might not gain much. Maybe up to 2170 like I have so you'll have to weigh the cost vs if it's going to be worth it to you. For me I got about +100 to +125 Mhz on the core from 55c -> 44c though.
 
#672 ·
So I'm considering a couple of AMD/Nvidia options and when it comes to the 3070 I'm not sure if going for a better built 3070 or cheaper 3070 ti would be the better option especially when prices are really close or the same in some sale instances.

If you had to choose today would you go 3070 or 3070 ti? I just spent a good chunk of watching reviews and side by sides and reading articles about these 2 cards and I feel like the 3070 almost sounds like its a better card? The 3070 ti is obviously faster but it sure seems like it takes the 3070 quite a bit of power to get there. A lot of side by side comparisons there wasn't that huge of a difference.

I'm curious what you owners actually think :)
 
#673 ·
Peanuts4 said:
So I'm considering a couple of AMD/Nvidia options and when it comes to the 3070 I'm not sure if going for a better built 3070 or cheaper 3070 ti would be the better option especially when prices are really close or the same in some sale instances.

If you had to choose today would you go 3070 or 3070 ti? I just spent a good chunk of watching reviews and side by sides and reading articles about these 2 cards and I feel like the 3070 almost sounds like its a better card? The 3070 ti is obviously faster but it sure seems like it takes the 3070 quite a bit of power to get there. A lot of side by side comparisons there wasn't that huge of a difference.

I'm curious what you owners actually think :)
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It depends on your monitor's resolution and refresh rate. If you're playing at 1080p/60hz for example then go for the 3070 as that will be more than enough for you. But if you're trying to do 1440p @ 120hz, or 4K @ 60hz then you want the fastest video card that you're able to afford as you wouldn't see decently playable frame rates without sacrificing image quality (turning down/off settings in games) until at least the 3070 Ti for 1440p, and up to the 3080 Ti or 3090 for 4K. I play at 1080p/144 Hz and I'm happy with my 3070 Ti. I'm able to run all the latest games with all of the graphics options turned to max and maintain 120~144 FPS for 144 Hz just fine. Except motion blur. Screw motion blur. No one leaves that on.
 
#674 ·
Peanuts4 said:
So I'm considering a couple of AMD/Nvidia options and when it comes to the 3070 I'm not sure if going for a better built 3070 or cheaper 3070 ti would be the better option especially when prices are really close or the same in some sale instances.

If you had to choose today would you go 3070 or 3070 ti? I just spent a good chunk of watching reviews and side by sides and reading articles about these 2 cards and I feel like the 3070 almost sounds like its a better card? The 3070 ti is obviously faster but it sure seems like it takes the 3070 quite a bit of power to get there. A lot of side by side comparisons there wasn't that huge of a difference.

I'm curious what you owners actually think :)
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3070 min for 1440 and if I was building now I would get 3080ti even for 1440 cause it will be needed to get high fps in 1440.
like said above.. 1080p 3070 will rip make sure your cpu is up to the task
 
#675 · (Edited)
Peanuts4 said:
So I'm considering a couple of AMD/Nvidia options and when it comes to the 3070 I'm not sure if going for a better built 3070 or cheaper 3070 ti would be the better option especially when prices are really close or the same in some sale instances.

If you had to choose today would you go 3070 or 3070 ti? I just spent a good chunk of watching reviews and side by sides and reading articles about these 2 cards and I feel like the 3070 almost sounds like its a better card? The 3070 ti is obviously faster but it sure seems like it takes the 3070 quite a bit of power to get there. A lot of side by side comparisons there wasn't that huge of a difference.

I'm curious what you owners actually think :)
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I've overclocked the living hell out of my 3070 Ti to its limit pushing 2115mhz and +1000 memory overclock. It's on a custom loop and stays below 60c. Next rad going in soon and will like drop it to low 50s or better.

I'm achieving 144fps at 1440p on most every game on ultra. There are obvious exceptions but it's an extremely powerful mid range card that punches way above its weight.
 
#676 ·
mikethemidget92 said:
I've overclocked the living hell out of my 3070 Ti to its limit pushing 2115mhz and +1000 memory overclock. It's on a custom loop and stays below 60c. Next rad going in soon and will like drop it to low 50s or better.

I'm achieving 144fps at 1440p on most every game on ultra. There are obvious exceptions but it's an extremely powerful mid range card that punches way above its weight.
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Timespy scores? What model?
 
#677 ·
mikethemidget92 said:
I've overclocked the living hell out of my 3070 Ti to its limit pushing 2115mhz and +1000 memory overclock. It's on a custom loop and stays below 60c. Next rad going in soon and will like drop it to low 50s or better.

I'm achieving 144fps at 1440p on most every game on ultra. There are obvious exceptions but it's an extremely powerful mid range card that punches way above its weight.
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I'm pretty close. I have my 3070 Ti @ 2175 nominal (most games) and 2205 Mhz (a few games) @ 43~45 C myself. I aim for 144 hz/FPS @ 1080p. Which surprisingly actually does max out the GPU @ 99% utilization in some games and drops down to < 144 FPS even at 1080p. 90% of games with max graphics settings / max ultra runs 144 FPS constant for me though. But I score less than other people do in 3dmark. I'm still not sure on that. I think it's my older 5800X not punching as hard as the newer Intel 12'th gen even though I have my CPU clocked up to 5050 Mhz on 2 cores when gaming so in games it runs great but 3DMark runs an all-core CPU benchmark so it drops it down to about 4600 Mhz for the CPU test.
 
#679 ·
kithylin said:
I'm pretty close. I have my 3070 Ti @ 2175 nominal (most games) and 2205 Mhz (a few games) @ 43~45 C myself. I aim for 144 hz/FPS @ 1080p. Which surprisingly actually does max out the GPU @ 99% utilization in some games and drops down to < 144 FPS even at 1080p. 90% of games with max graphics settings / max ultra runs 144 FPS constant for me though. But I score less than other people do in 3dmark. I'm still not sure on that. I think it's my older 5800X not punching as hard as the newer Intel 12'th gen even though I have my CPU clocked up to 5050 Mhz on 2 cores when gaming so in games it runs great but 3DMark runs an all-core CPU benchmark so it drops it down to about 4600 Mhz for the CPU test.
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The CPU test is definitely letting you down.

I had my i7 12700kf OC to 5.3ghz on two cores for a whole. Hugeee results.

Backed off to 5.1 on all core with no AVX offset.
 
#680 ·
I just purchased an EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Black. I need the settings for the most stable overclock anyone has achieved using Precision X1 Please.
 
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