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The i7 3770k is out and now i might ask. Which is better in two of the following ways. 1st overclocking, 2cnd gaming and raw processing power. I assume the 3930k if price plays any role. I need to decide for my future build. This has been what i was waiting for. I don't mind the extra cost of the 3930k but only if it oc and is faster for gaming.
 
Buying a 3930k for gaming is silly... more power though, definitely the 3930, lol.
 
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Buying a 3930k for gaming is silly... more power though, definitely the 3930, lol.
my girlfriend would agree with you if she knew the difference between the 2 but i want the best. So you answered on question. That is that the i7 3930k is faster for gaming but what about overclocking. I plane on the H100 for cooling if that makes a difference
 
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my girlfriend would agree with you if she knew the difference between the 2 but i want the best. So you answered on question. That is that the i7 3930k is faster for gaming but what about overclocking. I plane on the H100 for cooling if that makes a difference
For the record I never said the 3930 was better for gaming.

As for overclocking, all depends on the chip you get. Both overclock well though, I wouldn't be concerned about that.
 
The only reason you should buy the 3930K is if you are going to be doing something that would use the other 2 cores. I havent read much about the 3770K overclocking, but I hear they run hot. If I were you, I would probably get the 3770K + Z77 mobo, and possible go with a 2600K if the 3770Ks upside isnt worth the difference in price.
 
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i sry i should have read into your post a little more. I do have some needs for the extra cores. They just don't exceed my want for the most gaming power. I won't be able to build for quite some time so overkill is welcome. What chip has better features. I pretty sure both lga 1155 and 2011 both have usb 3.0 and pcie 3.0 not that 2.0 is outdated or anything. What everyone is saying they are both good overclockers. IB just runs hot. Does that mean even hotter than a 6 core like the 3930k
 
A 3770K OC to 4.5-4.6 will have better performance and a low power consumption than a STOCK 3930K, so there is no point to get a 3930K if you don't use applications that benefit from those extra cores. I know that there is a huge temptation to get the 3930K, like the saying "Bigger is better" but it's all in your head because in your daily usage you will not see any differences between the two.

And this "future proof" again, all in your head because there isn't such thing, hardware wise because I bet that if you get the 3930K now which is 600 $ + 300 $ you will be mad if next year Intel Haswell will have the same performance from 4 cores - 8 threads like Sandy bridge had over Westmere's 6 cores.

But this is only my opinion.
 
Just grab a 2500k and save some cash... spend the money you save on a better GPU. Most games/GPUs don't need a powerful CPU anymore.
 
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I am at a lose now. I searched through the internet and it would appear that the i5 3550k is the real gaming beast. Wow history is repeating its self here. In the end I I just want that the best overclocker that is ballz to the wall for gaming.
i5 is plenty for gaming. You should worry about spending more on GPUs for "ballz to the wall" gaming.
 
Unless you are running multiple monitor, quad-core memory, multiple SLI/Crossfire high end GPUs.... then you might be able to take advantage of the high end CPU + Motherboard combination. Do you render video? Architecture software? HIgh CPU intensity programs? Running a server? Cause if all you're doing is trying to acquire higher than 60 - 120FPS on a monitor for games... the 3930K overclocked is overkill.

If you're die hard on spending money to spend money for the sake of a killer gaming experience - go get yourself a U3011 30" Dell Monitor, 2 GTX 680's or 2 7970's, some higher end cooling equipment and enjoy a beastly rig on the highest resolution and sweet monitor. That alone is going to run you over $2500 - but you'll notice THAT performance. 3930k for overclocks.... not so much.
 
Common misconception: "The fastest cpu is the best one for gaming because it's the fastest"

Fact: FPS difference between 3930k and 2500k = 0 (especially with overclocking involved)

Fact #2: "ballz to the wallz" gaming will depend on your gpu's in this situation.

Fact #3: Chicken tacos are delicious.
 
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Common misconception: "The fastest cpu is the best one for gaming because it's the fastest"
Fact: FPS difference between 3930k and 2500k = 0 (especially with overclocking involved)
Fact #2: "ballz to the wallz" gaming will depend on your gpu's in this situation.
Fact #3: Chicken tacos are delicious.
Sir, that would depend entirely on whether the game in question is cpu limited or gpu limited. A cpu limited game (WoW, SC2, some others) will certainly perform better on the 3930k at the same speed. And more games are taking advantage of multiple cores.
 
I was able to get my 3930k up to 4.8 on a H100 but under p95 it was 85+ degrees so quite hot, but possible. It is a very nice processor can take just about anything you throw at it and will still have power to spare.
I am not familiar with the 3770k but I know that it will probably do as well as a 3930k when just playing games.
 
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Sir, that would depend entirely on whether the game in question is cpu limited or gpu limited. A cpu limited game (WoW, SC2, some others) will certainly perform better on the 3930k at the same speed. And more games are taking advantage of multiple cores.
But overall, the most bang for the buck here for gaming is a 2500K with the cost difference vs. the 3930k going to GPU and Monitor, yes?

Also, chicken tacos are pretty delicious.
 
For those doing 2011 builds, I'd bet there are more people going cheap... getting a 3820 and gunning for a 6 core IB-E in a year or two than starting off w/a 6 core SB-E. Those of us that don't want a 1155 and feel the need to do a full build in 2-3 years. The 3820 is on sale at MC now for 229.99... the in dfference in price will make up for the 2011 boards over a Z77 board. Even most other retailers will have them well below a SB/IB quad w/HT.

That's what I did. All my parts are coming today!

And chicken tacos *are* delicious.
 
If you can OC the 3930K around 5% higher than the 3770K then the 3930K will be superior in gaming (in situations where 4 or less cores are used or the game doesn't take advantage of the extra cache). OCing both CPUs depends almost entirely on your cooling.

That said the processing power wise the 3770K doesn't stand a chance.
 
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