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Originally Posted by nocebo View Post

G502 always feelt the same on every profile for me. Guess im a swamp monster.
The guy in post #16 noticed the same thing I did with the mouse. I never noticed anything like this on Logitech's previous mice like when the G9x had it's own software before it was integrated into LGS.

Having said that, damn this mouse is heavy after using it a few hours in a game.
 
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Originally Posted by r0ach View Post

Having said that, damn this mouse is heavy after using it a few hours in a game.
Yes Sir it will make a man of ya
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. This isn't for the limp-wristed or lazy you have to be in tip top form to handle this mouse, hence your whole forearm will suddenly look like the Hulk without any steroids.

So r0ach, enjoy the ultra manliness that shall exude from your body
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Originally Posted by r0ach View Post

The guy in post #16 noticed the same thing I did with the mouse. I never noticed anything like this on Logitech's previous mice like when the G9x had it's own software before it was integrated into LGS.

Having said that, damn this mouse is heavy after using it a few hours in a game.
r0ach using a mouse as a workout means he approves of it
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Of course, he'll turn into a swamp monster since he loves the mouse so much, he'll grow long caveman hair and won't shave.

We <3 ya, r0ach!

P.S r0ach, use the puretrak talent on the G502, with hotline games competition feet (hyperglide emailed me saying they're going to (finally) make feet for the g502 and some other mice). You're going to love how light the mouse feels with that glide.

No swamp madness here!
 
I have some unhealthy gaming sessions on weekends. These can go for 8-10 hours a day. I have been using the G502 for 3 months now. I have never had ANY problems with it, such as weight drag or floating curser or whatever. I set it to approximately 5500 dpi and have been using it like that ever since. My wrist is never fatigued after using this mouse for any period of time, and I really enjoy using it.
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Originally Posted by ACX770 View Post

I have some unhealthy gaming sessions on weekends. These can go for 8-10 hours a day. I have been using the G502 for 3 months now. I have never had ANY problems with it, such as weight drag or floating curser or whatever. I set it to approximately 5500 dpi and have been using it like that ever since. My wrist is never fatigued after using this mouse for any period of time, and I really enjoy using it.
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You are likely use very high sense where you never move mouse more than 3 cm at all...
 
Nobody should ever play any game with more than 1800 CPI. If you ask me personally, I'd go as far as to say if your sensitivity is such that even at 800 CPI you have pixel skipping issues in an FPS case, your sensitivity is also far too high. There are certain sensitivities where when you cross a threshold, say around 3.5+ sens in CS at 400 CPI, that you are just going to be humanly limited by the sensitivity, no matter what the hardware can do.
 
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

Nobody should ever play any game with more than 1800 CPI. If you ask me personally, I'd go as far as to say if your sensitivity is such that even at 800 CPI you have pixel skipping issues in an FPS case, your sensitivity is also far too high. There are certain sensitivities where when you cross a threshold, say around 3.5+ sens in CS at 400 CPI, that you are just going to be humanly limited by the sensitivity, no matter what the hardware can do.
Eh? Pixel skipping issues? Since when?
You don't have pixel skipping issues. As long as your mouse is running at 'native' resolution (G502 is native at all steps but going higher than 3500 DPI starts to get issues with accuracy/jitter depending on surface used), you won't skip any pixels. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with being a high sensitivity gamer (besides not getting RSI or carpal from having your arm/wrist work out like The Hulk), besides loss of accuracy; it's much easier to aim exactly where you want, a a low sensitivity (low dpi) than a high DPI/high sens, because you have much less chance of overshooting your target or missing the pixel you want to aim at. And making small corrections takes less work and strain than if you used a high DPI. that being said, there are plenty of pro players who have used small pads (like a razer exactmat) and a higher DPI.

The razer Deathadder 3G was native at 1800 DPI and that was arguably the best mouse (after prediction off firmware came out) until the G502 (black edition DA was good if you could handle the high LOD), so using a common native DPI on such a popular mouse became accepted. I used 1800 DPI in UT2004, with an ingame sens of 0.25-0.30 (40cm/360) and it felt nice.
 
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post

Eh? Pixel skipping issues? Since when?
You don't have pixel skipping issues. As long as your mouse is running at 'native' resolution (G502 is native at all steps but going higher than 3500 DPI starts to get issues with accuracy/jitter depending on surface used), you won't skip any pixels. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with being a high sensitivity gamer (besides not getting RSI or carpal from having your arm/wrist work out like The Hulk), besides loss of accuracy; it's much easier to aim exactly where you want, a a low sensitivity (low dpi) than a high DPI/high sens, because you have much less chance of overshooting your target or missing the pixel you want to aim at. And making small corrections takes less work and strain than if you used a high DPI. that being said, there are plenty of pro players who have used small pads (like a razer exactmat) and a higher DPI.

The razer Deathadder 3G was native at 1800 DPI and that was arguably the best mouse (after prediction off firmware came out) until the G502 (black edition DA was good if you could handle the high LOD), so using a common native DPI on such a popular mouse became accepted. I used 1800 DPI in UT2004, with an ingame sens of 0.25-0.30 (40cm/360) and it felt nice.
I meant angular resolution issues. If your sensitivity is so high that one count from the mouse turns you so that you can't aim at a specific pixel and you're at 800 CPI still, that's too high.
 
Ok, fair enough. makes sense,thank you.
The way you worded it at first sounded like a mouse would skip pixels on a hardware level.
 
I think this method is working. It feels more consistent using just one profile and disabling the other two but the downside it is slow when using only one dpi setting in Windows.

I'm going to enable profile 1 and 2 but with only one DPI number each and see if it remains stable because when I change profile during gameplay that's when I feel the inconsistent floaty cursor.
 
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Originally Posted by mitavreb View Post

I'm going to try this method and hopefully it works. I'm really having a terrible time with the G502. I'm beginning to believe that it has acceleration. I've tried different DPI's already(6000, 4050, 3000, 1950, 1800, 1600, and now 800) and all of them will respond the same, sometimes the mouse sensor will feel very floaty and sometimes it feels so slow like I'm dragging the crosshair. And every time I aim I could see that my crosshair is overshooting the target especially when I'm moving the mouse fast and sideways. I cannot aim in small increments because of the stupid floaty feeling.

I only use Profile 1 but with different dpi's.

I wanna mention that I'm using a Taito and it might be incompatible with the G502. I play only CSGO.
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Originally Posted by r0ach View Post

The guy [mitavreb] in post #16 noticed the same thing I did with the mouse. I never noticed anything like this on Logitech's previous mice like when the G9x had it's own software before it was integrated into LGS.

Having said that, damn this mouse is heavy after using it a few hours in a game.
Totally agree.
Also with the CS:GO part over- and undershooting, floaty feel.

What also helped was to deactivate the autostart entry via msconfig.
Disable custom surface tuning.
Uninstall the logitech virtual keyboard and mouse in the device manager and also logitech virtual bus enumerator and all the other created invisible entries logitech made under keyboard, mouse, input device and usb device.
Therefor you have to enable to show hidden unconnected devices http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/315539
And stop using the setpoint software.
When it's used again, Logitech will add all those entries again and they have to get removed again.

It also helps to delete all the other hidden entries of unconnected devices like same mouse or keyboard on other usb port from long times ago.

And it's right, the mouse seems to have massive problems with silky shiny mouse pads. It's like it can't keep track on such surface.
 
I'm sorry but until you provide some evidence that this "fix" does anything, I going to have to say that I really doubt this does a thing.

Never had an issue with the g502's performance nor it degrading, and trust me, I'm every bit as hypersensitive to this stuff as anyone.
 
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Originally Posted by dmbr View Post

I'm sorry but until you provide some evidence that this "fix" does anything, I going to have to say that I really doubt this does a thing.

Never had an issue with the g502's performance nor it degrading, and trust me, I'm every bit as hypersensitive to this stuff as anyone.
I can't do anything else than second what you said. Probably the most reliable mouse (almost perfect in shape, would've just wished for the mouse to have the sniper button like half a centimeter further). I've installed/reinstalled/deinstalled/kept/etc. the firmware for ages already and I don't feel a difference when using the G502 after doing all of these things.

I should know when I am inconsistent in CSGO, you notice these things, like you would feel server lag or something.
 
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