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Depends on what and how much is going on around you and your settings.

Large scale WvW fights will absolutely trash any system, and sitting around crowded places will normally give a lower FPS than running around in the world.
 
Naw, this is just in some space with a couple of trees and some ghosts nearby. Maybe 1 or 2 other players running around. I don't remember the area but it was level 20's and missions has to do with flame legion.

I don't remember it being this low way back when and I remember I didn't struggle with a heavy fight going on in W v W. I haven't tried recently yet but I'm... scared now after seeing this.
 
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Someone was complaining that their 8350 + 970 was getting only 20fps and that made me look at mine. With my 8350 + 290X, I'm only getting 35-40 fps... is that typical?
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Naw, this is just in some space with a couple of trees and some ghosts nearby. Maybe 1 or 2 other players running around. I don't remember the area but it was level 20's and missions has to do with flame legion.

I don't remember it being this low way back when and I remember I didn't struggle with a heavy fight going on in W v W. I haven't tried recently yet but I'm... scared now after seeing this.
might just be your settings , my sig rig even at full quality everything up can usually steady at 50 during average gameplay

if i know im gonna castle hump though, I will lower settings. usually takign shadows and vegetation off will give me more than enough boost
 
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dl'n this now as its free
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Any classes I should lean towards or avoid?
Depends on what you want to do. Any profession can do anything in the game currently, though if you want to get into something like dungeon speedrunning, necro is less desired, and though ranger is perfectly fine, there's a bit of discrimination against it due to it's history.

Just in general for someone starting out, elementalist, engineer, and maybe mesmer might be a little complicated, but it shouldn't be a big problem to start with any of them should you want to.
 
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dl'n this now as its free
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Any classes I should lean towards or avoid?
Warrior is probably your best bet. Every profession has it caveats, and some have a higher skill cap than others, but overall you can be good with any class if you put the time into it. I have found Warrior to be the easiest to play, and survive with.
 
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yeah im leaning toward warrior or thief so far....still dl'n though...stuck onh my friends ****ty wifi cuz his ethernet ports on his router are burnt out lol
Thief is alot of fun, but is a bit more difficult to play.
 
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yeah im leaning toward warrior or thief so far....still dl'n though...stuck onh my friends ****ty wifi cuz his ethernet ports on his router are burnt out lol
They are the easiest and new player friendly classes in the game because you know Anet balance isnt actually balanced. Basically - PvE Be what ever you want, it means nothing. Speed runs arent important (unless that is your thing, doesnt change them being pointless but might want to stay away from certain classes if thats what you want) WvW depending on if you want to zerg/blob surf and bash the crap out of auto attacks and AoE and Range skills or you want to go solo you'll have different classes.

Roaming WvW Pretty much any class can do it, as long as you have the right build. Going condi tends to be the go to spec for most. Thief tends to be spam the crap out of the stealth and BS because again Anet dont know balance. Warrior is pretty strong. Great at Zerg/Blob. Very strong at solo, can be condi, can be power, can be support. I played my Mesmer while roaming and it was a lot of fun. Before that it was my Ele which was also fun. Both aren't really new player friendly. They can be HUGELY punished if you make the slightest mistake. Ranger would be another option thanks to how broken its Bow attacks and damage can be while easily able to keep good range.
 
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They are the easiest and new player friendly classes in the game because you know Anet balance isnt actually balanced. Basically - PvE Be what ever you want, it means nothing. Speed runs arent important (unless that is your thing, doesnt change them being pointless but might want to stay away from certain classes if thats what you want) WvW depending on if you want to zerg/blob surf and bash the crap out of auto attacks and AoE and Range skills or you want to go solo you'll have different classes.

Roaming WvW Pretty much any class can do it, as long as you have the right build. Going condi tends to be the go to spec for most. Thief tends to be spam the crap out of the stealth and BS because again Anet dont know balance. Warrior is pretty strong. Great at Zerg/Blob. Very strong at solo, can be condi, can be power, can be support. I played my Mesmer while roaming and it was a lot of fun. Before that it was my Ele which was also fun. Both aren't really new player friendly. They can be HUGELY punished if you make the slightest mistake. Ranger would be another option thanks to how broken its Bow attacks and damage can be while easily able to keep good range.
Don't listen to him. Whatever you do. Do not listen to him. Go check out the anet forums and see what people are saying about the warrior and thief. The Thief is a high risk, high reward class, it's not noob friendly at all as you have to learn what each ability looks like so you can dodge them and stealth afterwards. Otherwise you're just a melee warrior with a really bad health pool.
 
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Don't listen to him. Whatever you do. Do not listen to him. Go check out the anet forums and see what people are saying about the warrior and thief. The Thief is a high risk, high reward class, it's not noob friendly at all as you have to learn what each ability looks like so you can dodge them and stealth afterwards. Otherwise you're just a melee warrior with a really bad health pool.
Essentially this, to be good at thief you need to know the other classes well in order to be able to counter them in pvp or wvw. In pve, thiefs arent as easy in dungeons or boss encounters. Again, warrior is the best all around , you can do just about anything with it. I have been running warrior in a wvw guild for a long time, and they are invaluable to the rest of the team. Mind you i also have an 80 in every other class too, with the exception of engineer.

Its better to learn how to play the game on a forgiving profession, than one with a high skill cap. Running thief brand new to the game, even in living story pve can be pretty frustrating witbout knowing the mechanics.
 
Feel free to ignore me. I have only been playing the game from pre-release to about 2 weeks ago. Spending about 95% of that time playing only WvW but yeah what ever you say. Thief and Warrior totally arent easy classes to play or anything. Also. If you look on the forums OUTSIDE of the bias Warrior and Thief forums you will see how many saying how easy they are. They ARE easy. Hell, Thief is a HARD counter to Mesmer so much that Mesmer isnt actually wanted in any TPvP. SPvP it doesnt really matter, it only gets worse when it comes to WvW but yeah they are totally not new player friendly.
 
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Feel free to ignore me. I have only been playing the game from pre-release to about 2 weeks ago. Spending about 95% of that time playing only WvW but yeah what ever you say. Thief and Warrior totally arent easy classes to play or anything. Also. If you look on the forums OUTSIDE of the bias Warrior and Thief forums you will see how many saying how easy they are. They ARE easy. Hell, Thief is a HARD counter to Mesmer so much that Mesmer isnt actually wanted in any TPvP. SPvP it doesnt really matter, it only gets worse when it comes to WvW but yeah they are totally not new player friendly.
Im not ignoring you, i just disagree with your statement regarding thief as an easy profession for someone brand new to the game. In my opinion Warrior is the easiest to start out with, especially with the versatility it has.

Aside from these conflicting points, its ultimately up to him, he can do whatever he wants despite what you or I think. Perhaps he will try both and see which one he likes better.
 
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Im not ignoring you, i just disagree with your statement regarding thief as an easy profession for someone brand new to the game. In my opinion Warrior is the easiest to start out with, especially with the versatility it has.

Aside from these conflicting points, its ultimately up to him, he can do whatever he wants despite what you or I think. Perhaps he will try both and see which one he likes better.
Thief has THE best Offense mechanic and THE best Defense mechanic all rolled into one little nice and easily spammed mechanic. Once you know the easy combos Thief is easy. Maybe it will take a few hours but once you have even the little amount of usage of the class you will find it easy. You just gotta look after your initiative and that is it. I'd say Engineer, Mesmer and Ele are the classes you should stay away from at the start. Engineer is easier than Mesmer and Ele to play but it can still be really tricky with all its mechanics. It has the benefit of great mobility , great healing, ranged damage, melee damage its only real weakness is Conditions. Ele, you have to know when to attunement swap. When to use certain skills but once mastered it can be insanely strong. Mesmer While it has stealth its rather limited, long cool downs you do have the trait for longer duration but the cool downs are still long enough that its going to be screwed if they accidentally attack before they are ready. They are very weak to Thief builds. Anyone with high CC can be a nightmare as well and Conditions can be a real handful unless specced for it

What he should do make each class, one at a time. Go into the Mists which has everything unlocked and play around there. You can get a reasonable feel for the classes in there and knowing what will be unlocked as you level up will be useful for picking the right class that suits him.
 
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yeah im leaning toward warrior or thief so far....still dl'n though...stuck onh my friends ****ty wifi cuz his ethernet ports on his router are burnt out lol
Hey, I (Wade) think we worked at GE together didn't we? Message me in game sometime, bartlewe.6432.

It all depends on what you want to do. Like the others have said, in PvE it really doesn't matter what you make as long as you enjoy the style of play and you're not trying to maximize efficiency to the hardcore. Each class definitely has a different feel to it. In PvP/WvW some classes definitely do certain things better than others. If you like stealth, thief and mesmer tend to use it the most, but in my opinion, are not as friendly towards new players. Pretty much any class can roam or do large group stuff.

In my opinion, the best solo roaming classes are thief and mesmer.

In large group stuff, the meta has been to run multiple groups with guardians, warriors, elementalists and necros (aka GWEN). Guardians are frontline that provide stability (anti-crowd control) with minor healing, warriors are frontline that provide condition clearing, minor healing and ability to "insta revive" allies on a large cooldown, elementalists provide lots of healing and other boons with moderate damage, necros provide lots of AOE damage. This explanation is obviously simplified a bit. Note that this meta could very well change once the expansion comes out. The expansion will introduce new roles for each existing class and adds another entirely new class.

In my opinion, the warrior style of play is the easiest to learn (I have mostly played warrior since game launch) and the most difficult classes to learn are elementalist and engineer.
 
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Hey, I (Wade) think we worked at GE together didn't we? Message me in game sometime, bartlewe.6432.

It all depends on what you want to do. Like the others have said, in PvE it really doesn't matter what you make as long as you enjoy the style of play and you're not trying to maximize efficiency to the hardcore. Each class definitely has a different feel to it. In PvP/WvW some classes definitely do certain things better than others. If you like stealth, thief and mesmer tend to use it the most, but in my opinion, are not as friendly towards new players. Pretty much any class can roam or do large group stuff.

In my opinion, the best solo roaming classes are thief and mesmer.

In large group stuff, the meta has been to run multiple groups with guardians, warriors, elementalists and necros (aka GWEN). Guardians are frontline that provide stability (anti-crowd control) with minor healing, warriors are frontline that provide condition clearing, minor healing and ability to "insta revive" allies on a large cooldown, elementalists provide lots of healing and other boons with moderate damage, necros provide lots of AOE damage. This explanation is obviously simplified a bit. Note that this meta could very well change once the expansion comes out. The expansion will introduce new roles for each existing class and adds another entirely new class.

In my opinion, the warrior style of play is the easiest to learn (I have mostly played warrior since game launch) and the most difficult classes to learn are elementalist and engineer.
Thanks for the info, however I have never worked for GE
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I ended up going thief for now. Hopefully I pick it up quickly, otherwise I will just go ez warrior mode
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I play Rift and it's F2p.can I play GW2 as F2p ? i just want to install game.
 
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