MSI X870E/X870 MEG/MPG/MAG Overclocking & Discussion Thread

Tatili · Nov 12, 2024

hsn said:
but i just want you try karhu/memtest pro (dang wang). only to know how much avg cover speed with your setting

Hi, what's help avg cover speed for only mine's only single player gaming scenario, you have HWinfo Effective clocks to check this in no time 🤕
Don't need to pay Karhu pro, just for you to check something I don't need, if you have next gen 9000series, why don't you check by yourself 🙃
Karhu uses a different aproach testing stability
Karhu also like Aida64 Cache test together, does focus on the cache side of things.
Karhu with cache will fail if the IMC fails to hold this voltage, or will fail if one of the cores fails.
TM5's work is only to verify the memory timings, nothing around it, but it will also fail if the CPU can't keep up stability.
TM5 isn't able to detect memory controller issues, for such work you can use all these 3 tests combo on y-cruncher FFT/N64/VT3 and hope it's just a voltage issue which an AVX2 test will detect soon 👍
I know it sounds contraproductive, but althrough trusting you Y-Cruncher testing suite passed several times, and at least for now, I can't find anyone on Next Gen combo 9000series X870 mobo 8000 mems kit passed through, Dataset AVX2 is heavy, so do N64 and finds instant memory errors, not for everyone enthusiast, good luck!
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crakej · Nov 12, 2024

crakej said:
I'm having memory OC problems with this bios. Memory runs fine at 6400MTs 1:1 with FCLK at 2000.

Turn computer off for the night and when I boot windows a get a BSOD saying 'memory error' - the only way to get it working is to go back to defaults (4800MTs). I can then later go back and reload my 6400MTs profile and it works, error free.

This is making me think its a memory training problem. Motherboard, CPU and memory are all new. I need to test the above and or go back to the old bios to see if it does the same.

Edit: I seem to be right - this morning it failed again so I made it re-train the memory and it works fine! Will test the last bios as soon as I have time but never had that problem with it before.

Right - having received a new board I can report that my old board def had a fault from the start - with memory having to be re-trained if machine was off more than a couple of hours. This does not happen with the replacement.

Also useful is that Tech support tell me that bios Debug Code 00 is "... the startup process doesn't begin" - so that board is getting RMAd shortly.

MrFox · Nov 13, 2024

My Apex beast has a new younger brother to fight with. I just built an AMD system and in the process of figuring out how to tune Ryzen 9 for maximum overclocked benching performance. Very different than what I am used to. Once I get my bearings I will be ordering the Thermal Grizzly Mycro and Delid Die Mate from Brother @der8auer for added thermal headroom on my water chiller. RAM cooling parts are on the way, along with an EXPO 8000 kit. At the moment I am using an XMP 8000 kit, manually tuned. I am liking it so far. Hoping to learn a few things specific to AMD from @domdtxdissar because he is our resident AMD HWBOT pro.

MrFox`s 2593 cb score: Cinebench - 2024 with aRyzen 9 9950X

The Ryzen 9 9950X @ 5428.6MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - 2024 benchmark. MrFoxranks #50 worldwide and #25 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

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MrFox`s 47866 cb score: Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate with aRyzen 9 9950X

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Peter Cantrope · Nov 14, 2024

Do you need to turn off the PSU to clear CMOS on these MSI boards? I'm thinking of getting the Tomahawk, there are some nice bundles out there.

Tatili · Nov 15, 2024

MrFox said:
My Apex beast has a new younger brother to fight with. I just built an AMD system and in the process of figuring out how to tune Ryzen 9 for maximum overclocked benching performance. Very different than what I am used to. Once I get my bearings I will be ordering the Thermal Grizzly Mycro and Delid Die Mate from Brother @der8auer for added thermal headroom on my water chiller. RAM cooling parts are on the way, along with an EXPO 8000 kit. At the moment I am using an XMP 8000 kit, manually tuned. I am liking it so far. Hoping to learn a few things specific to AMD from @domdtxdissar because he is our resident AMD HWBOT pro.

MrFox`s 2593 cb score: Cinebench - 2024 with aRyzen 9 9950X

The Ryzen 9 9950X @ 5428.6MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - 2024 benchmark. MrFoxranks #50 worldwide and #25 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

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MrFox`s 47866 cb score: Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate with aRyzen 9 9950X

The Ryzen 9 9950X @ 5427MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate benchmark. MrFoxranks #null worldwide and #null in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

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Hi enthusiasts, nice glowy Masterpiece, no need that much Carbon here in Eastern Europe Dark Side for my younger little fellow, salute our Master Jedi @der8auer indeed, keep going MSI rocks 🔝

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Eraseri · Nov 15, 2024

Has anyone gotten any decent results with Tomahawk yet with 2x32 Gb set? I'm having Kingston Fury Beast 6400C32 -set. Currently running them at 6000C30. I would like to set up mild overclock that doesn't require endless fiddling in BIOS.

I just build this PC with 9800X3D and Tomahawk. I actually have had a lot of issues with it. Bios flashing was nightmare - but finally could do it. PC literally crashed in BIOS which is something new to me. Also my setup only boots up properly every other boot. The failed boots end up with completely black screen. PC seems to be alive since CPU temps are shown in status codes but there is no way to get anything on the display. Internal GPU is disabled from BIOS.

I'm wondering whether I have hardware-issue with the Tomahawk.... I have tested the setup with each RAM stick separately without help.

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rush2049 · Nov 15, 2024

Seems like the Godlike is available on MSI's website now. And newegg has it for backorder now as well, availability on the 18th.

Sphex_ · Nov 19, 2024

Eraseri said:
Has anyone gotten any decent results with Tomahawk yet with 2x32 Gb set? I'm having Kingston Fury Beast 6400C32 -set. Currently running them at 6000C30. I would like to set up mild overclock that doesn't require endless fiddling in BIOS.

I just build this PC with 9800X3D and Tomahawk. I actually have had a lot of issues with it. Bios flashing was nightmare - but finally could do it. PC literally crashed in BIOS which is something new to me. Also my setup only boots up properly every other boot. The failed boots end up with completely black screen. PC seems to be alive since CPU temps are shown in status codes but there is no way to get anything on the display. Internal GPU is disabled from BIOS.

I'm wondering whether I have hardware-issue with the Tomahawk.... I have tested the setup with each RAM stick separately without help.
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I have a similar kit, 6400 CL32 2x24GB G.Skill, Hynix M-Die. I'm running Buildzoid's timings at 6000 for right now, but I want to try to push it to 6200 or 6400 since that's what the kit is rated at anyways. So far I haven't been successful. I need to nail down the Termination Block settings (ProcODT, RTT, etc.) like you have in your Zentimings screenshot, but the settings in the BIOS are confusing. Which ones did you modify in the BIOS to achieve the settings you have in your screenshot? There are two settings for each termination block value, "Pull Up" and "Pull Down". Do I set them both to the same value?

MrFox · Nov 19, 2024

Sphex_ said:
I have a similar kit, 6400 CL32 2x24GB G.Skill, Hynix M-Die. I'm running Buildzoid's timings at 6000 for right now, but I want to try to push it to 6200 or 6400 since that's what the kit is rated at anyways. So far I haven't been successful. I need to nail down the Termination Block settings (ProcODT, RTT, etc.) like you have in your Zentimings screenshot, but the settings in the BIOS are confusing. Which ones did you modify in the BIOS to achieve the settings you have in your screenshot? There are two settings for each termination block value, "Pull Up" and "Pull Down". Do I set them both to the same value?

I am finding that my 24GB sticks that work amazingly well on my Intel i9 CPUs do not work so well with my 9950X. The 16GB sticks are very stable in comparison and run 8200 easily and pass stability tests. Intel had to massage the firmware a little to get the 24GB modules to run great and I suspect AMD is going to need to do the same. It is really unfortunate that both Intel and AMD seem to be largely hung up on the idea of selling mostly 4-DIMM motherboards when 2-DIMM DDR5 boards are better performing by nearly every measurement.

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Tatili · Nov 19, 2024

Hi enthusiasts, nothing but troubles & no improvment so far from 1.2.0.2 A or B, don't do same mine mistake, get rid of them asasp 👎
Both imature Agesa Beta ruined my 8000CL34 when found new cpu SMU 98.78.0 inserted 🤕
Needed to roll back 1.2.0.2 SMU 98.77.0 to found only 8000CL36 can run back stable, so be aware with "B"😱

But happy to fix tPHYRDL 37/37 sync channel A/B

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MrFox · Nov 19, 2024

Tatili said:
Hi enthusiasts, nothing but troubles & no improvment so far from 1.2.0.2 A or B, don't do same mine mistake, get rid of them asasp 👎
Both imature Agesa Beta ruined my 8000CL34 when found new cpu SMU 98.78.0 inserted 🤕
Needed to roll back 1.2.0.2 SMU 98.77.0 to found only 8000CL36 can run back stable, so be aware with "B"😱
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The best rules apply to all electronics and the process is the same easy to manage approach for AMD and Intel owners. If you are happy that your product works well and there are no unresolved performance issues or bugs, then STOP. Do nothing. Stay happy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

MrFox · Nov 19, 2024

Tatili said:
But happy to fix tPHYRDL 37/37 sync channel A/B

Is there a BIOS adjustment for this? Mine are mismatched at 37 and 39.

Tatili · Nov 19, 2024

MrFox said:
Is there a BIOS adjustment for this? Mine are mismatched at 37 and 39.

Yeap, just head over to PMU training.
ARdPtrInitVal P0 Control=Manual goes down to 0
Be sure to check it in both Bios section PMU: Advanced Dram config & Amd Overclocking/DDR

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MrFox · Nov 19, 2024

Tatili said:
Yeap, just head over to PMU training.
ARdPtrInitVal P0 Control=Manual goes down to 0
Be sure to check it in both Bios section PMU: Advanced Dram config & Amd Overclocking/DDR
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Awesome, thank you. Very helpful. I've been overclocking Intel platforms for years, but so much of the AMD BIOS stuff is foreign to me. Like speaking a broken language, you understand some parts, but other words you have never heard before.

Tatili · Nov 19, 2024

MrFox said:
AMD BIOS stuff is foreign to me.

Thx, glad to help, honestly I do figure it out already, I'am not an AMD beginner, I can tell, appreciated 🙏

Luggage · Nov 19, 2024

MrFox said:
The best rules apply to all electronics and the process is the same easy to manage approach for AMD and Intel owners. If you are happy that your product works well and there are no unresolved performance issues or bugs, then STOP. Do nothing. Stay happy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Yea but that took almost 20 bioses on am4

crakej · Nov 19, 2024

My bios is setting the WRONG timings from A-XMP on this bios: should be 32 40 40 40 84 - I assume its this bios as it didn't do this before. Will go back to A13 and re-test as its unstable like this!

Edit: I was right -back on A13 and my memory timings are correct

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MrFox · Nov 20, 2024

crakej said:
My bios is setting the WRONG timings from A-XMP on this bios: should be 32 40 40 40 84 - I assume its this bios as it didn't do this before. Will go back to A13 and re-test as its unstable like this!

Edit: I was right -back on A13 and my memory timings are correct
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MrFox · Nov 20, 2024

Tatili said:
Thx, glad to help, honestly I do figure it out already, I'am not an AMD beginner, I can tell, appreciated 🙏

I changed both to 0 and one is 36, the other 38 in Zen Timings. Do I need to do something different? Maybe I misunderstood and you were not stating I should set it to 0 in both locations.

It looks like we have the same memory kit part number. My 8000 Neo EXPO kit arrived today.

Tatili · Nov 20, 2024

MrFox said:
I changed both to 0 and one is 36, the other 38 in Zen Timings. Do I need to do something different? Maybe I misunderstood and you were not stating I should set it to 0 in both locations.

It looks like we have the same memory kit part number. My 8000 Neo EXPO kit arrived today.

I do have VDD=VDDQ=1.57v equal & VDDIO=Auto y can check this, might be your issue, or CL timmings and mem freq ? Pls post ZenT might help

Chipset	AMD X870E
CPU	Supports AMD Ryzen™ 9000/ 8000/ 7000 Series Desktop Processors Socket AM5
Memory	4x DDR5 UDIMM, Maximum Memory Capacity 256GB Memory Support DDR5 8400+(OC)/ 8200+(OC)/ 8000+(OC)/ 7800(OC)/ 7600(OC)/ 7400(OC)/ 7200(OC)/ 7000(OC)/ 6800(OC)/ 6600(OC)/ 6400(OC)/ 6200(OC)/ 6000(OC)/ 5800(OC)/ 5600(JEDEC)/ 5400(JEDEC)/ 5200(JEDEC)/ 5000(JEDEC)/ 4800(JEDEC) MT/s Ryzen™ 9000 Series Processors max. overclocking frequency: • 1DPC 1R Max speed up to 8400+ MT/s • 1DPC 2R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 1R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4800+ MT/s Supports AMD POR Speed and JEDEC Speed Supports Memory Overclocking and AMD EXPOTM Supports Dual-Channel mode Supports Non-ECC, Un-buffered memory Supports CUDIMM, Clock Driver bypass mode only* * CUDIMM support and POR boot frequency may vary by CPU series, with manual overclocking available after boot. Certain CPUs may fail to boot, but future BIOS updates will improve compatibility. • Memory compatibility and supported speeds can vary depending on the CPU and memory configuration. For detailed information, please refer to the Memory Compatibility List available on the product’s Support page or visit https://www.msi.com/support/.
Onboard Graphics	2x Type-C DisplayPort USB4® port, supporting DisplayPort 1.4 with HBR3 over USB Type-C, maximum resolution of 4K@60Hz* *Available only on processors featuring integrated graphics. Graphics specifications may vary depending on the CPU installed.
Slot	2x PCI-E x16 slot 1x PCI-E x4 slot PCI_E1 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x16 (From CPU) PCI_E2 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x8 (From CPU) PCI_E3 Gen PCIe 4.0 supports up to x4 (From Chipset) PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 slots • Supports up to PCIe 5.0 x16/ x0 or x8/ x8 (For Ryzen™9000/ 7000 Series processors) • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x8/ x0 (For Ryzen™ 8700/ 8600/ 8400 Series processors) • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4/ x0 (For Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processors) PCI_E3 slot • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 * PCI_E3 slot will run at x2 speed when installing device in the M2_4 slot. You can switch PCI_E3 slot to x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the M2_4 slot. Please refer to the PCIe configuration table in the manual for more details.
Audio	Realtek® ALC4082 Codec + ESS9219Q Combo DAC/HPA 7.1-Channel USB High-Performance Audio Supports S/PDIF output Supports up to 32-Bit/384 kHz playback on front panel
Storage	5x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_2 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x2 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_5 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices 4x SATA 6G M.2_1: • Supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors) • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 (For Ryzen™ 8000 Series processors) M.2_2: • Supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors) • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 (For Ryzen™ 8700/ 8600/ 8400 Series processors) • The M2_2 slot will be unavailable when using Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processors. M2_4: PCI_E3 slot will run at x2 speed when installing device in the M2_4 slot. You can switch PCI_E3 slot to x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the M2_4 slot. * Supports additional 2x M.2 up to PCIe 5.0 x4 via M.2 card. ** Please refer to the manual for M.2 SSD heatsink restrictions.
RAID	•Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and Raid 10 for SATA storage devices •Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and Raid 10 for M.2 NVMe storage devices
USB	4x USB 2.0 (Front) 4x USB 5Gbps Type A (Front) 8x USB 10Gbps Type A (Rear) 5x USB 10Gbps Type C (Rear) 1x USB 10Gbps Type C (Front) 1x USB 20Gbps Type C (Front) 2x USB 40Gbps Type C (Rear)
LAN	1x Marvell® AQC113CS 10Gbps LAN 1x Realtek® 8126 5Gbps LAN
Internal IO	1x Power Connector(ATX_PWR) 2x Power Connector(CPU_PWR) 1x Power Connector(PCIE_PWR 8pin) 1x Front Type-C Quick Charge Connector(PD_PWR1) 1x CPU Fan 2x Combo Fan (Pump_Sys Fan) 1x EZ Conn-header (JAF_2) 2x Front Panel (JFP) 1x Chassis Intrusion (JCI) 1x Front Audio (JAUD) 2x Thermal Sensor connectors(T_SEN) 1x Tuning Controller connector(JDASH) 1x Addressable V2 RGB LED connector (JARGB_V2) V-check point 4x USB 2.0 ports 4x USB 5Gbps Type A ports 1x USB 10Gbps Type C ports 1x USB 20Gbps Type C ports
WIRELESS LAN & BLUETOOTH	Wi-Fi 7 Solution The Wireless module is pre-installed in the M.2 (Key-E) slot Supports MU-MIMO TX/RX, 2.4GHz/ 5GHz/ 6GHz* (320MHz) up to 5.8Gbps Supports 802.11 a/ b/ g/ n/ ac/ ax/ be Supports Bluetooth® 5.4*, MLO, 4KQAM 6GHz band support may depend on every country’s regulations and Wi-Fi 7 will be ready in Windows 11 SV3. ** The Bluetooth version may be updated, please refer to the Wi-Fi chipset vendor's website for details. Bluetooth 5.4 support schedule depends on MSFT Windows 11 plan.
LED FEATURE	1x Dynamic Dashboard III 1x EZ Digit Debug LED 1x EZ LED Control switch
BACK PANEL PORTS	USB 10Gbps (Type-A) Flash BIOS Button Clear CMOS Button Smart Button 10G LAN 5G LAN Wi-Fi / Bluetooth HD Audio Connectors USB 40Gbps (Type-C) USB 10Gbps (Type-C) USB 10Gbps (Type-A) Optical S/PDIF-Out
OPERATING SYSTEM	Support for Windows® 11 64-bit
PCB Info	E-ATX

Chipset	AMD X870E
CPU	Supports AMD Ryzen™ 9000/ 8000/ 7000 Series Desktop Processors Socket AM5
Memory	4x DDR5 UDIMM, Maximum Memory Capacity 256GB Memory Support DDR5 8400+(OC)/ 8200+(OC)/ 8000+(OC)/ 7800(OC)/ 7600(OC)/ 7400(OC)/ 7200(OC)/ 7000(OC)/ 6800(OC)/ 6600(OC)/ 6400(OC)/ 6200(OC)/ 6000(OC)/ 5800(OC)/ 5600(JEDEC)/ 5400(JEDEC)/ 5200(JEDEC)/ 5000(JEDEC)/ 4800(JEDEC) MT/s Ryzen™ 9000 Series Processors max. overclocking frequency: • 1DPC 1R Max speed up to 8400+ MT/s • 1DPC 2R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 1R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4800+ MT/s Supports AMD POR Speed and JEDEC Speed Supports Memory Overclocking and AMD EXPOTM Supports Dual-Channel mode Supports Non-ECC, Un-buffered memory Supports CUDIMM, Clock Driver bypass mode only* * CUDIMM support and POR boot frequency may vary by CPU series, with manual overclocking available after boot. Certain CPUs may fail to boot, but future BIOS updates will improve compatibility. • The DIMM slots on this motherboard have double-sided latches. • Memory compatibility and supported speeds can vary depending on the CPU and memory configuration. For detailed information, please refer to the Memory Compatibility List available on the product’s Support page or visit https://www.msi.com/support/.
Onboard Graphics	1x HDMI™ Support HDMITM 2.1 with FRL port, maximum resolution of 8K 60Hz* 2x Type-C DisplayPort USB4® port, supporting DisplayPort 1.4 with HBR3 over USB Type-C, maximum resolution of 4K@60Hz* *Available only on processors featuring integrated graphics. Graphics specifications may vary depending on the CPU installed.
Slot	3x PCI-E x16 slot PCI_E1 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x16 (From CPU) PCI_E2 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x4 (From CPU) PCI_E3 Gen PCIe 4.0 supports up to x4 (From Chipset) PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 slots • Supports PCIe 5.0 x16/x0 or x8/x4 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors) • Supports PCIe 4.0 x8/x0 (For Ryzen™ 8700/ 8600/ 8400 Series processors) • Supports PCIe 4.0 x4/x0 (For Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processor) PCI_E3 slot • Supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 * PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 & M.2_2 share the bandwidth, and PCIe version support varies depending on the CPU. Please refer to the PCIe configuration table in the manual for more details.
Audio	Realtek® ALC4080 Codec 7.1-Channel USB High-Performance Audio Supports up to 32-Bit/384 kHz playback on front panel Supports S/PDIF output
Storage	4x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_2 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices 4x SATA 6G * PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 & M.2_2 share the bandwidth, and PCIe version support varies depending on the CPU. Please refer to the PCIe configuration table in the manual for more details.
RAID	•Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and Raid 10 for SATA storage devices •Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and Raid 10* for M.2 NVMe storage devices * RAID 10 for M.2 NVMe storage devices is only supported by AMD Ryzen™ 9000/7000 series CPU.
USB	4x USB 2.0 (Front) 4x USB 5Gbps Type A (Front) 9x USB 10Gbps Type A (Rear) 2x USB 10Gbps Type C (Rear) 1x USB 20Gbps Type C (Front) 2x USB 40Gbps Type C (Rear)
LAN	1x Realtek® 8126 5G LAN 1x Realtek® 8125 2.5G LAN
Internal IO	1x Power Connector(ATX_PWR) 2x Power Connector(CPU_PWR) 1x Power Connector(PCIE_PWR 8pin) 1x CPU Fan 1x Combo Fan (Pump_Sys Fan) 5x System Fan 1x EZ Conn-header (JAF_2) 2x Front Panel (JFP) 1x Chassis Intrusion (JCI) 1x Front Audio (JAUD) 1x Thermal Sensor connectors(T_SEN) 3x Addressable V2 RGB LED connector (JARGB_V2) 1x RGB LED connector(JRGB) 4x USB 2.0 ports 4x USB 5Gbps Type A ports 1x USB 20Gbps Type C ports
WIRELESS LAN & BLUETOOTH	Wi-Fi 7 Solution The Wireless module is pre-installed in the M.2 (Key-E) slot Supports MU-MIMO TX/RX, 2.4GHz/ 5GHz/ 6GHz* (320MHz) up to 5.8Gbps Supports 802.11 a/ b/ g/ n/ ac/ ax/ be Supports Bluetooth® 5.4*, MLO, 4KQAM 6GHz band support may depend on every country’s regulations and Wi-Fi 7 will be ready in Windows 11 version 24H2. ** The Bluetooth version may be updated, please refer to the Wi-Fi chipset vendor’s website for details. Bluetooth 5.4 will be ready in Windows 11 version 24H2.
LED FEATURE	4x EZ Debug LED 1x EZ Digit Debug LED 1x EZ LED Control switch
BACK PANEL PORTS	USB 10Gbps Type-A Flash BIOS Button Clear CMOS Button Smart Button 2.5G LAN 5G LAN Audio Connectors HDMI™ USB 40Gbps Type-C USB 10Gbps Type-C USB 10Gbps Type-A USB 10Gbps Type-C Wi-Fi / Bluetooth Optical S/PDIF Out
OPERATING SYSTEM	Support for Windows® 11 64-bit
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PCB Info	ATX 243.84mmx304.8mm

Chipset	AMD X870
CPU	Supports AMD Ryzen™ 9000/ 8000/ 7000 Series Desktop Processors Socket AM5
Memory	4x DDR5 UDIMM, Maximum Memory Capacity 256GB Memory Support DDR5 8400+(OC)/ 8200+(OC)/ 8000+(OC)/ 7800(OC)/ 7600(OC)/ 7400(OC)/ 7200(OC)/ 7000(OC)/ 6800(OC)/ 6600(OC)/ 6400(OC)/ 6200(OC)/ 6000(OC)/ 5800(OC)/ 5600(JEDEC)/ 5400(JEDEC)/ 5200(JEDEC)/ 5000(JEDEC)/ 4800(JEDEC) MT/s Ryzen™ 9000 Series Processors max. overclocking frequency: • 1DPC 1R Max speed up to 8400+ MT/s • 1DPC 2R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 1R Max speed up to 6400+ MT/s • 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4800+ MT/s Supports AMD POR Speed and JEDEC Speed Supports Memory Overclocking and AMD EXPO™ Supports Dual-Channel mode Supports Non-ECC, Un-buffered memory Supports CUDIMM, Clock Driver bypass mode only* * CUDIMM support and POR boot frequency may vary by CPU series, with manual overclocking available after boot. Certain CPUs may fail to boot, but future BIOS updates will improve compatibility. • The DIMM slots on this motherboard have double-sided latches. • Memory compatibility and supported speeds can vary depending on the CPU and memory configuration. For detailed information, please refer to the Memory Compatibility List available on the product’s Support page or visit https://www.msi.com/support/.
Onboard Graphics	1x HDMI™ Support HDMI™ 2.1 FRL, maximum resolution of 8K 60Hz* 2x Type-C DisplayPort USB4® port, supporting DisplayPort 1.4 with HBR3 over USB Type-C, maximum resolution of 4K 60Hz* *Available only on processors featuring integrated graphics. Graphics specifications may vary depending on the CPU installed.
Slot	3x PCI-E x16 slot PCI_E1 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x16 (From CPU) PCI_E2 Gen PCIe 3.0 supports up to x1 (From Chipset) PCI_E3 Gen PCIe 4.0 supports up to x4 (From Chipset) PCI_E1 slot • Supports PCIe 5.0 x16 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors) • Supports PCIe 4.0 x8 (For Ryzen™ 8700/ 8600/ 8400 Series processors) • Supports PCIe 4.0 x4 (For Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processor) *PCI_E3 slot will run at x2 speed when installing device in the M2_3 slot. You can switch PCI_E3 slot to x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the M2_3 slot
Audio	Realtek® ALC4080 Codec 7.1-Channel USB High Performance Audio Supports up to 32-bit/384kHz playback on front panel Supports S/PDIF output
Storage	4x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices M.2_2 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x2 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices * The M2_2 slot will be unavailable when using Ryzen™ 8500/ 8300 Series processors. USB 40Gbps Type-C ports on the back panel and M2_2 slot share PCIe 5.0 x4 bandwidth. Both run at PCIe 5.0 x2 when a device is installed in the M2_2 slot. You can switch M2_2 to PCIe 5.0 x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the USB 40Gbps Type-C ports * PCI_E3 slot will run at x2 speed when installing device in the M2_3 slot. You can switch PCI_E3 slot to x4 in the BIOS, but this will disable the M2_3 slot. **** Please refer to the manual for M.2 SSD heatsink restrictions
Multi-GPU	AMD MULTI-GPU Support
RAID	Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID 10 for M.2 NVMe storage devices
USB	4x USB 2.0 (Rear) 4x USB 2.0 (Front) 3x USB 5Gbps Type A (Rear) 4x USB 5Gbps Type A (Front) 2x USB 10Gbps Type A (Rear) 1x USB 10Gbps Type C (Rear) 1x USB 20Gbps Type C (Front) 2x USB 40Gbps Type C (Rear)
LAN	Realtek® 8126-CG 5G LAN
Internal IO	1x Power Connector(ATX_PWR) 2x Power Connector(CPU_PWR) 1x Power Connector(PCIE_PWR 8pin) 1x CPU Fan 1x Combo Fan (Pump_Sys Fan) 6x System Fan 1x EZ Conn-header (JAF_2) 2x Front Panel (JFP) 1x Chassis Intrusion (JCI) 1x Front Audio (JAUD) 3x Addressable V2 RGB LED connector (JARGB_V2) 1x RGB LED connector(JRGB) 1x TPM pin header(Support TPM 2.0) 4x USB 2.0 ports 4x USB 5Gbps Type A ports 1x USB 20Gbps Type C ports
WIRELESS LAN & BLUETOOTH	Wi-Fi 7 The Wireless module is pre-installed in the M.2 (Key-E) slot Supports MU-MIMO TX/RX, 2.4GHz/ 5GHz/ 6GHz* (320MHz) up to 5.8Gbps Supports 802.11 a/ b/ g/ n/ ac/ ax/ be Supports Bluetooth® 5.4*, MLO, 4KQAM 6GHz band support may depend on every country’s regulations and Wi-Fi 7 will be ready in Windows 11 version 24H2. ** The Bluetooth version may be updated, please refer to the Wi-Fi chipset vendor’s website for details. Bluetooth 5.4 will be ready in Windows 11 version 24H2.
LED FEATURE	4x EZ Debug LED 1x EZ Digit Debug LED
BACK PANEL PORTS
OPERATING SYSTEM	Support for Windows® 11 64-bit
BOX CONTENT	Clear CMOS Button USB 10Gbps Type-A USB 5Gbps Type-A USB 2.0 5G LAN Wi-Fi / Bluetooth Audio connectors Flash BIOS Button HDMI™ USB 40Gbps Type-C USB 10Gbps Type-C USB 10Gbps Type-A
PCB Info	ATX 304.8mmx243.84mm

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