I have a Zero Mid, in my opinion its not worth it just due to the fact it has a higher difference in x/y glide than my QcK Heavy does, and its a massive dust magnet

Also, it wont stick on my table properly, even if i put a bit of water there, when it dries up it swooshes around

 

I have a Zero Mid, in my opinion its not worth it just due to the fact it has a higher difference in x/y glide than my QcK Heavy does, and its a massive dust magnet

Also, it wont stick on my table properly, even if i put a bit of water there, when it dries up it swooshes around

That alone would throw me off completely.



The QCK heavy had perfect control until I got my RVU which is too fast so I'm looking for something with more control.

 

If you want something slower i wouldent be looking at artisan

er... did you try and check beardedb0b on youtube? or his site?, i think he did a lot of pressure gauge tests with a variety of mousepads

 

No experience with it, but on the same boat as you
Considerable yet they are expensive and the corners are not stitched ~ strongly unsure
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0
this might help you for alternatives

I own the Goliathus Control but it's surface could be faster, although good enough
Soo i keep my eyes on the Hayate Otsu, same as the Endorphy Cordura Speed
- although something soft texture like is nice for the wrist
If you scroll down in the doc, you'll find an old but well written review about the Artisan's
Focus more on the rated list tho and find first something comparable you optimally can try somewhere locally
~ well it would be great if you know already what you like, but still

EDIT:
Be sure to also check the Longevity & Pricing Tab
Washable is important unless you have a glass or fully metal base - mousepad
And so also coating longevity after X months of usage

 

No experience with it, but on the same boat as you
Considerable yet they are expensive and the corners are not stitched ~ strongly unsure
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0
this might help you for alternatives

I own the Goliathus Control but it's surface could be faster, although good enough
Soo i keep my eyes on the Hayate Otsu, same as the Endorphy Cordura Speed
- although something soft texture like is nice for the wrist
If you scroll down in the doc, you'll find an old but well written review about the Artisan's
Focus more on the rated list tho and find first something comparable you optimally can try somewhere locally
~ well it would be great if you know already what you like, but still

EDIT:
Be sure to also check the Longevity & Pricing Tab
Washable is important unless you have a glass or fully metal base - mousepad
And so also coating longevity after X months of usage

This is perfect, thanks!

I've heard good things of the Zowie GSR.

 

Artisans have been stitched for a while if you opt for it. I don't have a slow pad preference so I can't help you there.

 

Ordered the Zowie GSR. I'm pretty eager to try some of artisans offerings so maybe once this pandemic dies down I'll do some reviews.

 

My zero xsoft and hayate otsu mid were absolutely worth it, considering how long zero lasted and still good to go. I also get issues with the pad not sticking to my ikea desk but I just used thin double-sided tape which artisan recommended if you have issues with compatibility.

 

If you want a really slow pad the black Zowie GSR is definitely up there with the slowest I've tried. Feels like dragging your mouse through mud lol. My Artisan FX Zero is pretty slow too, but I haven't used it that much so I'm not entirely sure if it's faster or slower than the GSR.

 

That "Mastersheet" can be used to get a general idea about pads, but it shouldn't be taken any more seriously than that. I own some of the pads in it, and the way they're ranked makes no sense. Their classification seems to not take into account static friction and the nature of its pressure sensitivity.

For me, static friction is the most important factor when choosing a mousepad. If that's not something you've ever thought about when analyzing your performance or the way your peripherals interact, then, by all means, disregard what I'm saying.

 

Having a baseline is crucial but otherwise I completely agree. I owned a puretrak talent, and I don't agree with them saying it's that quick. Quicker than the QCK heavy but not by much.



And had I known the mouse feet on the RVU were this slick I probably would've avoided purchasing the damn thing.

 

Quality wise the Artisan pads are absolutely worth it, and if you are one for supporting small companies/the little guy over big companies producing things in China and turning a profit, then yeah, I would buy from them. Best stitching by far (below the pad, so it never interferes). Surfaces are all unique in their own ways with interesting friction properties and concepts. If you're looking for a pure control pad they don't really have an option for you, but the Zero is essentially a higher quality QcK in terms of mouse feel. But it definitely gathers hairs a lot. My favourite of theirs is the Hien, using the Mid but want to get the soft once orders open again. I have all the pads except for the Raiden. Can give more insight if asked.

 

Quality wise the Artisan pads are absolutely worth it, and if you are one for supporting small companies/the little guy over big companies producing things in China and turning a profit, then yeah, I would buy from them. Best stitching by far (below the pad, so it never interferes). Surfaces are all unique in their own ways with interesting friction properties and concepts.

This is definitely the appeal in Artisan pads for me as well, they are all very unique and interesting surfaces and the quality is seriously good and something I can appreciate. I think I have 7 Artisan pads, and it's been enjoyable trying them all. I think the Raiden XSOFT is my favorite. The XSOFT option is nice and cushiony, I've never used anything else quite like it.

 

Amazon is selling some Artisan models in Europe (particularly the one I'm actually interested in trying, the Hien Mid XL) for around €45.

I don't know how expensive it would be to buy direct and pay for shipping and customs, but it can't be much lower than that.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0

Mousepad Master Sheet by Hoya

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0

Mousepad Master Sheet by Hoya

Artisan link is very old

 

http://www.esreality.com/files/misc/2016/109220-Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf

Artisan_2012_review-by-tubby.pdf

 

No, they aren't. Neither are any other gaming mousepad, so just buy any cheap pad and stop thinking about it.

No problem.

 

I've had 3 artisans over the years, I didn't stick to using any of them.

hayate kou and otsu had a noticeable vertical/horizontal glide difference, which is just unacceptable
zero was fine, but I fail to see any real advantage over ss heavy, especially with the cost and required maintenance.

on a side note, GSR was probably the worst pad that I've ever used. with a humidity slightly above average it will be an inconsistent swamp, I don't get how people use it.

 

I've had 3 artisans over the years, I didn't stick to using any of them.

Out of curiosity, what did you end up with?

 

I've got Raiden FX, it sticks perfectly to any surface so far (horizontal or vertical ), has little friction and is easily cleaned. Coming from Steelseries QCk Mini I'm very satisfied with the mousepad.

 

I have the 6mm thick Qck Heavy and surprisingly the thick rubber base is quite hard/dense. I expected it to be softer but it's harder than some of my 3mm pads. Don't get me wrong it's a good surface, but I don't understand why it's 6mm thick other than perhaps stopping it from moving on your table. I did notice that it took barely any time at all to flatten out after being rolled up though. However upon unrolling it the SteelSeries logo immediately got wrinkled up, and I wasn't too impressed with that.

 

No.

 

Thanks for such an insightful perspective.



It would be nice if you could elaborate as to why you feel that's the case.

 

I mean, mine is only a sample size of one, but comparing it to my Glorious XL Heavy the Qck Heavy feels firmer. My Xraypad Thor (3mm) feels a little softer than the Qck Heavy as well. If it was a 3mm pad I wouldn't question it but I just found it odd that it's 6mm thick but as firm as a 2-3mm pad, at least on my copy.

 

I've tried a ton of pads including the FX Raiden and the Xraypad Thor is my favorite by far.

 

are there a difference in the surface with the printed Thor with non printed and plain Thor?

https://shop.x-raypad.com/shop/thor-fast-speed-cloth-mouse-pad/

as with Zowie mouse pads?

and what is that that makes it better in terms of materials? with the mice

 

I'll let you know soon, Got a custom OCN logo pad on the way.

 

 

All of the Artisan pads have an amusing flaw. Some of them are drastically different (friction wise) in the x/y axis. Some wear out very quickly. My favorite two (Raiden & Zero) respectively have very low sensor compatibility & will literally tear hairs out of your arm and trap them within the weave forever. I shave my arm every week just so I can use my Zero.

 

So, I have the qck+ here. I still have to play some Apex with it, but the initial feels are pretty good. The static friction with none to some pressure seems to be pretty close (relatively speaking) to kinetic friction, which is very important to me. The overall glide is slower (expected) than my AMP500, but it feels more consistent than that of my Scabbard (which I've come to realize is a stupidly overrated mousepad). I'd take 500x450, but 450x400 will do. I prefer the touch of my AMP500, but it's not really a problem.

I can see why it's a staple in the professional scene.

 

Ok. I find myself in a weird spot. I'm going to be talking about a mousepad that's existed for MILLENNIA like it's the brand new thing in 2020.

The QcK+ is spectacular. I don't know why it took me this long to try it and why people keep making threads here and on Reddit about moving away from the QcK onto other more expensive pads, but its status as the most widely used family of products in the professional scene, I feel, is really legitimate and well deserved.

The AMP500 is now stored away, and the QcK+ is my new main.

 

Congrats, now you won't fall for maymays about expensive pads. Let those idiots from Reddit fall for them and spend lots of money on nothing while you trash them over and over.

 

Better late than never lol.

 

It was surreal. There was no adjustment period. As soon as the thing was on my desk, I was doing these dirty flicks, destroying kids.

Now, I'm just hoping washing it once a week or so is enough to maintain this glide. I wonder, though, if the QcK Edge might be a good investment.