This article reminds of the drivel that comes out of Tumblr.

 

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This article reminds of the drivel that comes out of Tumblr.

This. Overly sensationalist article.

 

The kicker is Nvidia is slow playing AMD with it's maxwell chips. Like the GK110, Nvidia is just making oodles of money with GM104 and just delaying GM110 until AMD comes out with something that can compete.

 

I am a part of this. Went from a 290x to a 970

 

Amd did give us the 295x2 in 2014. Better then nothing I guess.

 

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The kicker is Nvidia is slow playing AMD with it's maxwell chips. Like the GK110, Nvidia is just making oodles of money with GM104 and just delaying GM110 until AMD comes out with something that can compete.

Is AMD making any money from Hawaii? Both Kepler and Maxwell isn't really faster or better than Hawaii, and with the price drops AMD is competing just fine. Maybe AMD is waiting for GM200 to drop than crush it with the 390x. I mean isn't speculating fun

 

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Amd did give us the 295x2 in 2014. Better then nothing I guess.

295X2 with a pricecut now as well

Kinda bummed about Nvidia releasing GM204 performance is pretty disappointing for next gen, but then again I am a GK110 owner but yeah at least they released something

 

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Is AMD making any money from Hawaii? Both Kepler and Maxwell isn't really faster or better than Hawaii, and with the price drops AMD is competing just fine. Maybe AMD is waiting for GM200 to drop than crush it with the 390x. I mean isn't speculating fun

You're welcome to your opinion of course, but objectively yes, gm204 maxwell cards are better in every metric of quality for a video card. They are faster in reviews, oc better, run cooler, run quieter, take less power, have extra software features widely lauded by users and reviewers, and the cut down version is about the same pricing while the notably faster full fat chip is pricier. There's a reason the market share is shifting so drastically and rapidly (only half a quarter for maxwell 2.0 so far, as the article notes it will be even more this coming results report) and it isn't because people randomly decided they think the name is cooler. I just hope amd recovers, I don't want to see the cpu market be a model for what the gpu market will become where we only have one real major player and pricing is high with slow advances.
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Originally Posted by Redeemer

295X2 with a pricecut now as well

Kinda bummed about Nvidia releasing GM204 performance is pretty disappointing for next gen, but then again I am a GK110 owner but yeah at least they released something

Gm204 is the first part, gm200 will be the new top end

. And the 295x2 is a clearance fire sale, already running out of stock with no restock slated, just like the Radeon 7990 last time around. Can't really call an end of life clearance sale a price drop, heh.

 

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

Is AMD making any money from Hawaii? Both Kepler and Maxwell isn't really faster or better than Hawaii, and with the price drops AMD is competing just fine. Maybe AMD is waiting for GM200 to drop than crush it with the 390x. I mean isn't speculating fun

Conjecture for days

 

I really don't get why Nvidia have this kind of market share, amd has been mostly competitive price/performance and feature wise for years, sure you can argue on the forum but even my friends it friends at school are clueless of what they are talking about hardware wise so surely 90% of the people clearly don't by a long shot. I feel like they are always one step behind for a few months but considering they only got 35% market share that's pretty great.

Hope for them (and us

) that the 390x/380x kick some major ass.

 

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I really don't get why Nvidia have this kind of market share, amd has been mostly competitive price/performance and feature wise for years, sure you can argue on the forum but even my friends it friends at school are clueless of what they are talking about hardware wise so surely 90% of the people clearly don't by a long shot. I feel like they are always one step behind for a few months but considering they only got 35% market share that's pretty great.

Hope for them (and us

) that the 390x/380x kick some major ass.

Like I said marketing, amd dont plan to spend any extra on it either.

 

I'm part of this X2, just bought 2 GTX 970s

 

AMD lost me too with their crossfire issues. I bought a GTX 970 over the 290x.

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SLI is just as bad so bit of a silly reason to switch. In fact Crossfire on the R9 290/x cards is better than SLI in regards to frame pacing and scaling.

 

Disappointing, but nothing to be alarmed about. Its simply because a) NVIDIA has new cards, b) AMD doesn't, and c) used card sales don't count.

 

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Originally Posted by Syan48306

The kicker is Nvidia is slow playing AMD with it's maxwell chips. Like the GK110, Nvidia is just making oodles of money with GM104 and just delaying GM110 until AMD comes out with something that can compete.

Its working right?

 

I'm going back to AMD myself. Bought A 780 earlier this year and it has been nothing but disappointing and every time I update the drivers I get texture flicker and new stuttering problems. Now I have a 290x on its way. I guess for me it was Nvidia who was all hype.

 

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Originally Posted by Syan48306

The kicker is Nvidia is slow playing AMD with it's maxwell chips. Like the GK110, Nvidia is just making oodles of money with GM104 and just delaying GM110 until AMD comes out with something that can compete.

Its working right?

no, not really.

just "connect the dots" (actually that is already done) and you'll see the market cycling between AMD(Q2 of every year)/nVidia(Q4 of every year).

nothing to see here . .but an analysis' opinion of a horrible metric.

 

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

You're welcome to your opinion of course, but objectively yes, gm204 maxwell cards are better in every metric of quality for a video card. They are faster in reviews, oc better, run cooler, run quieter, take less power, have extra software features widely lauded by users and reviewers, and the cut down version is about the same pricing while the notably faster full fat chip is pricier. There's a reason the market share is shifting so drastically and rapidly (only half a quarter for maxwell 2.0 so far, as the article notes it will be even more this coming results report) and it isn't because people randomly decided they think the name is cooler. I just hope amd recovers, I don't want to see the cpu market be a model for what the gpu market will become where we only have one real major player and pricing is high with slow advances.
Gm204 is the first part, gm200 will be the new top end

. And the 295x2 is a clearance fire sale, already running out of stock with no restock slated, just like the Radeon 7990 last time around. Can't really call an end of life clearance sale a price drop, heh.

GM204 is better in every metric? Theres barely a performance increase, and Hawaii is over a year old. You wouldn't be able to notice any real world difference in gaming between a 290 vs a 970, sure the 970 eats less power as a result outputs less heat, but really a good after market Hawaii card has no issues in that regard. As of right now AMD has the best price/perf GPU available bundle with free games.

 

I saw this crud of an article earlier today and unfortunately here it is again. The comments on the source are quite fun to read though.

 

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

GM204 is better in every metric? Theres barely a performance increase, and Hawaii is over a year old. You wouldn't be able to notice any real world difference in gaming between a 290 vs a 970, sure the 970 eats less power as a result outputs less heat, but really a good after market Hawaii card has no issues in that regard. As of right now AMD has the best price/perf GPU available bundle with free games.

Regardless, your stance on this is hilarious.

He is right, performance is better in all areas, even if its small amount on a handful of games its still better. And this is the mid range die for Maxwell. The fact that you pretty much need an aftermarket cooler or water cooling for the 290/290x to actually get the most out of the card is ******ed IMO.

 

Holding on to my 280x for something better. My monitor only runs 1080 @ 60fps max so the 280x is almost perfect for it. Need 4k and crossfire 390x

 

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I really don't get why Nvidia have this kind of market share, amd has been mostly competitive price/performance and feature wise for years.

not the last family it took half year for other brands to release custom(reference cards were crap, not rly worthit)
and before that when their chips were super expensive in usa(minecoinfest) killed the sales.. people just selling their current cards lol
in Europe was quite different, it had a decent price but still, it took too long to get a good card..
i kinda miss overclocking in those jet engines

 

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The kicker is Nvidia is slow playing AMD with it's maxwell chips. Like the GK110, Nvidia is just making oodles of money with GM104 and just delaying GM110 until AMD comes out with something that can compete.

and they're teasing me with the wait of those GM110 chips lol. been waiting for yeeaarrrsss for those bad boys

 

Regardless of this article it is time to go AMD. They've already relinquished from competing against Intel on the CPU front and I doubt anyone wants to see an NV only GPU market, fanboy or not. NV has a lot of pull, lots of recognition and are the go-to brand/household name for casuals and recommended by them. I watch a lot of casters on Twitch and rarely ever hear anyone mention a AMD product when the GPU conversation comes up, let alone the CPU topic. It's the standard "aww buy a 970 bro, or if you got teh extra cash get a 980".

So regardless of this article's integrity I feel AMD is in need. It's not as if AMD produces inferior GPU's either - they have generally retained their longevity especially after the implementation of GCN coupled with the wide memory bus and abundance of video ram.