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PC Crashing, no BSOD

6.7K views 19 replies 5 participants last post by  Yvese  
#1 ·
I've been having this crashing issue for the past week or two and I'm stumped right now on what could be causing it.

Here's what happens, and what I've tried to fix it:

- PC Crashes. Monitors black out and start blinking like it would when you turn off the PC and leave monitors on. No BSOD.
- Sometimes when it crashes, my samsung monitor shows "Not Optimum Mode - 1920x1200" ( I've googled it and it doesn't appear to be related. Have no issues with resolution )
- I recently installed a new pair of 8GB ram and 2TB HD. I removed the new sticks - still crashes. I've ran countless HD tests on the new HD ( SeaTools, HD Tune Pro, HD Sentinel, Chkdsk ) - all passed. I don't see how the new HD would be causing this since it's not the HD my OS is on. It only contains games. The speeds the HD gets is consistent with reviews I've read. I upgraded to latest firmware
- I got the new ram and HD at the end of november. It actually started crashing shortly after the installation, however I fixed it and went crash free for a month after changing memory timings from 9-9-9-24 to 9-9-9-28. I tried loosening them some more when crashes started to occur again, no luck.
- Crashes while gaming or browsing.
- Just recently left my PC on the BIOS screen where you change settings and it crashed there too
- Increased CPU voltages. No luck so far. I don't think it's the CPU. From my experience with CPU overclocking, if the CPU is the cause, it would BSOD and/or freeze my PC and I'd hear a sound loop. This hasn't happened but I wont completely rule it out
- Checked eventviewer and I see nothing unusual before and after the crash. Thing is it really doesn't log anything when it crashes. All I get is Event ID 41 which means the PC didn't shut off correctly with no other info
- Ran memtest overnight for 8 hours. No errors, no crashes
- Crashes are random
- I reformatted two days ago with new drivers ( LAN, motherboard, Intel RST, chipset, and even GPU which I went from 12.6 to 13.1 drivers ). Still crashes.
- While gaming, I run GPU at stock 850/1250 speeds though this really doesn't matter since it crashes even while browsing
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I'm running out of ideas here and I'm starting to go crazy over this
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Here's some files as requested from this thread. I hope it contains useful info, and I hope someone out there can help me figure this out.

BSOD Files.zip 1075k .zip file
 

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#4 ·
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I think that this is a longshot based on what you've said so far, but I always ask when I see an overclocked Sandy or Ivy Bridge CPU: are you using an Offset voltage?
Nope.

I've had my CPU oc'd @ these speeds since I got it back in '11 I think it was. There were times where it got unstable over time and it would BSOD and sound loop, but a quick voltage bump fixed it.
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by gotendbz1 View Post

run your cpu at stock/auto settings and see if crashes still occur.
Will give this a shot.
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Originally Posted by robbo2 View Post

I had the same issue and it turned out to be a bad SSD. Very random crashes with no BSOD even after formatting, just an instant black screen.
Would it crash while in bios too? Did you run tests on it? If it turns out to be my ssd that'd be unfortunate since it's only 6-7 months old
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#9 ·
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

What is your idle voltage, and what is your load voltage according to CPU-Z while running Prime95?
Right now while browsing, cpu-z says my voltage is @ 1.336. While running prime95 it's @ 1.36 max
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Originally Posted by $ilent View Post

I would hazard a guess and say its CPU instability also. Did you prime95 test your overclock?
Yea, back when I got it back in '11. Was prime stable for 8 hours and has been stable till maybe now
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I'll rerun it overnight with a blend test.

I'm hoping someone could read the log files I attached to see if that could help in the mean time.
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post

Right now while browsing, cpu-z says my voltage is @ 1.336. While running prime95 it's @ 1.36 max
Yea, back when I got it back in '11. Was prime stable for 8 hours and has been stable till maybe now
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I'll rerun it overnight with a blend test.

I'm hoping someone could read the log files I attached to see if that could help in the mean time.
That rules out what I was thinking. I was thinking that maybe your idle voltage is too low, like always being lower than the load voltage.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by robbo2 View Post

Should have done that first
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It's pointing to your video card drivers. Uninstall and do a clean sweep with driver sweeper an try re-installing. Or lower your gpu overclock.
Thing is I was using 12.6 drivers when it started crashing. I've since reformatted and installed the newest 13.1 drivers. I made sure when I reformatted that windows wouldn't install anything after reformatting by installing the LAN drivers last so I wouldn't be connected to the internet.

Also out of all the crashing, I've only gotten one BSOD logfile which is a bit odd since I never got a BSOD after all this time. If it were the drivers I would have gotten a logfile for each crash but that's not the case
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My pc also crashed while in the BIOS so that should rule out the drivers unless drivers effect the system even when it's not in windows
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EDIT: I also run my GPU at stock clocks nowadays since the only game I play is DOTA 2.
 
#13 ·
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post

Thing is I was using 12.6 drivers when it started crashing. I've since reformatted and installed the newest 13.1 drivers. I made sure when I reformatted that windows wouldn't install anything after reformatting by installing the LAN drivers last so I wouldn't be connected to the internet.

Also out of all the crashing, I've only gotten one BSOD logfile which is a bit odd since I never got a BSOD after all this time. If it were the drivers I would have gotten a logfile for each crash but that's not the case
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My pc also crashed while in the BIOS so that should rule out the drivers unless drivers effect the system even when it's not in windows
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EDIT: I also run my GPU at stock clocks nowadays since the only game I play is DOTA 2.
Just telling you what the dump file is saying mate
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Caused By Driver : atikmdag.sys

Take a look here http://www.overclock.net/t/420875/possible-solution-to-atikmdag-driver-crash

I know it's old but worth a look maybe.
 
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#16 ·
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

What setting do you use for Windows Update? Is it completely automatic, or do you use the setting that says "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"?
I use the latter - "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"
 
#18 ·
Just wanted to update. I didn't want to post too soon incase the problem persisted.

It turns out the problem was my memory slots. I changed my ram from the blue to the black slots and the crashing stopped for 6 days. I crashed again on tuesday but hasn't happened since.

Somehow my ram slot went bad after installing the new ram a month or two ago. I have no idea how that happened since I didn't even touch the old ram that were in the blue slots. How did the slots go bad? Truly a mystery. Could it have been the added stress to the motherboard after adding 2 extra sticks of ram?

What sucks is if the problem starts happening again I'll have to buy a new motherboard unless anyone has any ideas how/why the ramslots went bad and if I can fix it
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. I also now have two extra sticks of ram just sitting on my table
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Thanks to everyone for the help though
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#20 ·
K so unfortunately it's still happening. Here's what I've done in the past few weeks:

- Like I said before, I thought it was the ram slots so I went and got a new motherboard. Problem still persists.
- Was able to run prime95 for 8 hours as well as memtest with all 16gb ram. No errors on either one.

This leads me to believe my PSU is the problem. It's 3 1/2 years old and is the oldest component in my system.

I'm thinking that my PSU is on its way out and the reason my PC is crashing is the PSU is not able to provide clean power 100% of the time and/or it's randomly spiking. What's weird is sometimes it can go days without crashing as long as I leave my PC on. However, if I turn it off overnight, that's when the crashes start occurring which again leads me to believe it's a power issue. I'd test with another PSU but sadly I don't have a spare.

Any thoughts on this? My concern is that I end up buying a new PSU only to not fix the problem like what happened with my motherboard. I can't be bothered taking apart my new motherboard so I've opted to just keep it, but I don't want to end up wasting money again so I'd like to hear some opinions before I buy something again that might not fix it
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