Use HWinfo not Hwmonitor.

 

Thank you for your reply, but as i said, BIOS also shows the same reading, so it cannot be that HWMonitor is faulty. The moment i saw 90c on PCH, i rebooted the PC jumped into the BIOS, where i was greeted with 87C PCH temp.

But i will definitely give HWinfo a shot.

 

Sounds about right for a case that is not known for great airflow. Even in high air flow/open test bench the newer chipsets/pch run hot and seeing temps in the 70-80+ is not unusual. Even at idle they will be in the 50-60c+ range in an open test bench.

There are voltages you can lower and things you can turn off in your bios to lower temps 10-15c but in reality it doesnt matter. Those components can take those temps.

 

That is news to me, i knew AMD's X570 had similar issues and it even came with a chipset fan. but even in its case i never saw 90C+ temps being reported.

I am curious to know what are these chips rated for ? How high is too high for me to lose sleep over ?

I will try to take off the side and front glass panels of my case and do a test, and see how it fares.

Apart from that i also have another theory, please correct me if i am wrong :

I am thinking this might have something to do with the fact that i have 4 NVME, of which 2 are GEN 4 in RAID0.

I will try to do the following this coming week just to see if it helps :
1) Move the Gen 3 OS drive the 970 EVO to the top M.2 which is linked directly with CPU
2) Move the Gen 4 RAID drives to farther slots which dont share the heatsink with the PCH OR are far enough to give some breathing room to the PCH
3) Undervolting more, i know i am not gonna damage it by undervolting, but i wanna know how low is too low to affect day to day system stability and PCI E/IO performance/throughput.

Appreciate your input.

 

I dont know about AMD, I was refering to Intel z490 and z590 as I have owned and built those. Currenly also have z690 Strix d4. I think pch temps are in the 55-60c range at lower use, dont really pay attention to it.

The more drives you use and things like thundebolt or whatever else runs through pch will raise temps. Just the added heat from 4th gen ssds adds heat inside the case. Some of the 980 Pro NVME drives I have had idle temps are in the upper 50s to 60c range in cases with pretty good airflow.

I remember seeing people over on the Asus support forum posting worried about pch temps from z490/z590. I guess i havent heard of any failures from too high of pch temps on z490/z590 and they have been around a little while. But yeah lower temps are better in most cases.

Edit plus of you have an aircooled GPU dumping heat onto everything it is not surprising to see higher temps on everything it comes into contact with.

 

According to Asus, at least on the z590 chipsets, are fine with those temps and are rated quite high ( up to 108 deg C).but I still don't like it. There are posts everywhere with owners experiencing the same problem. apologies - the posts I was thinking about regard z590 temps.

I guess I lucked out with my z690 Hero.. my pch temps are typically in the high 50s during use.
If it were me, I would look at swapping out thermal pads / paste under the heatsink. However unsure if that would void your warranty 🤔 You should not have to turn down performance or turn off features for better temps on these pricey z690 boards imho.

 

Mobo manufacturers and Intel's standpoint is the z690 chipsets are fine with those temps and are rated quite high..but I still don't like it. There are posts everywhere with owners experiencing the same problem.
I guess I lucked out with my z690 Hero.. my pch temps are typically in the high 50s during use.
If it were me, I would look at swapping out thermal pads under the heatsink. However unsure if that would void your warranty 🤔 You should not have to turn down performance or turn off features for better temps on these pricey z690 boards imho.

I know right, i guess i will try moving the NVME drives around and see how it goes, otherwise, will use this board for a couple months till the pricing is sorted out, and then jump to another more stable and cooler board.

 

Take off the pch heatsink and apply thermal paste or replace thermal pad with a thicker one whichever is applicable

 

On a Z690 Force (same board), I was getting 70-80 idle and 90 load when full of 980 Pro's, removing everything from chipset lanes (GPU and M.2 on cpu lanes, nothing else) reduced the temp down to like 60something under load.(test bench setup)

 

So my hunch was indeed correct. And the fact that i had the audacity too run a raid 0 on these gen 4 drives, o boy, maybe this motherboard or rather the chipset itself isn't cut out for that.

But just as you said doing the following made sure that i never see 90c ever again.

Moved the OS drive(even though its a gen 3 Samsung 970 evo) to CPU's m.2
Moved 1 of the raid0 WD SN850 drives from the middle heatsink/slot to the bottom one(in hopes that it will reduce the thermal load on the middle heatsink which directly connects to the PCH heatsink)

These 2 changes helped bring load temps down to 80-82c. Which is still high, but not as crazy as 90c+. I guess i got to live with it.

Will try using Gelid thermal pads as a last resort but that's about it, I don't see the point of RMA'ing the board and being without a PC for god knows how long in this starved market.

Appreciate you corroborating what i was seeing.

 

I wonder how long it will take peripheral vendors to come up with affordable, free-standing w-cooling solutions (likely with RGB...) for PCH and M.2s ?

...speaking of affordable not ...this OEAM Asus is $2k+ ?!

 

Re PCH temp., I have an ASUS Z690 Hero board, 12900K CPU, ASUS 3090TI, 32GB RAM at 5200MHz, two M.2 drives & four SATA drives. The PCH temp was reaching around 69°C with case fans off (Corsair 7000X) and about 65°C with them running at minimal speed. My particular case has an optional metal shroud to tidy internal appearance that channels front fan air flow away from the motherboard, so thought I'd try a simple trick. I purchased a 25 x 80 x 80mm fan (Arctic F8-80, 2,000rpm spec.) from Amazon for just over £4 and simply placed it under the GPU, close to the motherboard and pointing towards the chipset area. No need to mount it, it is quite happy just sitting there. With the case fans off, the PCH temp is now around 55°C. The fan has a 3 pin connector, runs at approx. 1,500rpm and is barely audible so thought I would share this. Placing it in the case and plugging it in is only a 1 minute job. I have made no BIOS adjustments, everything is running at defaults and I use no power saving features in Windows. As a side note, when I play games I have seen no significant increase in PCH temp, even before I fitted the extra little fan. I've seen nothing even close to 90°C, so maybe I've been lucky and just happen to have a well mounted chipset heatsink. Anyway, hope this helps somebody to keep their pride and joy a little cooler.

 

My Edge is hitting 70C. My Z490 Unify never cracked 50C so it is a little concerning.

 

I hate to revive a old thread. But I figured I would give the solution to the problem for someone who finds this by googling.

Go inside your MSI bios, and set PCH voltage to “Auto” it’ll drop PCH temps about 20C+

 

I've changed a thermal pad on my chipset (MB MSI z690 Tomahawk, Gelid GP Ultimate 15W, 2mm) and temp go down from 85C to 70C in gaming, in CB23 stay around 60C, it was 75C. Ambient 30C.

 

I solved this issue. Seat your contact frames again. With the thermalright you must not make the last 1/4 turn which over tightens it. I initially dropped my PCH min voltage that got me from 80 degrees to 70. Stayed on that for 3 months. Now I'm on 55 degrees. Let's hope no permanent damage was caused to the m.2 drives. M.2 drives dropped temps also.

 

Adding to this thread, I have a z790 fitted in a lancool 3 with 4 ssd all gen 4. Under load I have seen the PCH temps hitting 68 while idle was around 60. Removing one drive reduced the idle and load by 5 degrees respectively.

 

Adding to this thread, I have a z790 fitted in a lancool 3 with 4 ssd all gen 4. Under load I have seen the PCH temps hitting 68 while idle was around 60. Removing one drive reduced the idle and load by 5 degrees respectively.