mikezachlowe2004
I realize they're trying to appeal to the same market, but the same people who dislike macs are going to dislike this.
It looks a lot like a macbook, and frankly, I wouldn't care for it.
I'd rather buy ASUS if I'm looking for a nice portable laptop.
It looks a lot like a macbook, and frankly, I wouldn't care for it.
I'd rather buy ASUS if I'm looking for a nice portable laptop.
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We'll see how this pans out in the coming years.
Their new lineup of laptops have been pretty good so far (I have one). The cheap feel of older HP's is no where to be seen in the new ones.Originally Posted by Sylon
Made by HP...
I have yet to use any laptop/desktop made by HP that is decent.
We'll see how this pans out in the coming years.
I bought a first-gen Envy 14 CTO for school back in 2010 and it's still an excellent laptop which I use constantly. The build quality and materials are very sturdy and attractive. I'm glad to see the new models are still stacking up. Also it's nice to see the Radiance screen is available again.
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So how many of their laptops have you used and when? AFAIK the quality of their products has gone up quite a bit recentlyOriginally Posted by Sylon
Made by HP...
I have yet to use any laptop/desktop made by HP that is decent.
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That can be fixed with a lot of spare time and scouring the net...Originally Posted by MAD_J
Its not a true MacBook competitor with out the Mac OS, its just another windows laptop.
Meh, personally I'm rooting for ASUS and their Zenbooks
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. My hp laptop baked a stick of ram, don't want to go through that again. I liked my uncles's ASUS lappy a lot better.
Don't know what makes it so radically different that makes it a true MB competitor though.
Don't know what makes it so radically different that makes it a true MB competitor though.
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My GFs current laptop is a 17' HP that is falling apart by the day. The keyboard is sticking, lacks responsiveness, feels cheaper than a free hooker. The screen, my god the designers must have been blind.
During residence first year a few of my dorm mates had HP laptops. I ran a service first year, 50 bucks and I get rid of software problems for you (good money maker, people were paying me to play with their laptops really) and I hated working on every single HP laptop. Most people complained about battery life, heat, noise. Stuff I couldn't really do much about besides take it apart and clean the dust.
One of the main reasons is they are so cheap, the displays are usually so garbage you can see the horrible viewing angles from afar.
My parents don't use a desktop at home, they use a HP laptop (dad bought it on a business trip without telling me) and again wow. When I pick it up with one hand the body bends. Came with so much bloatware I just zero filled the HDD and put a new copy of windows on it.
Just to name a few. I'm sure their newer line ups are much better quality wise than they were before, however I will not be touching anything they've made still. Same goes with Dell, so many bad experiences I really don't care what they do in the future. Just like Seagate, I will never buy another product made by them, simply because I lost a 1TB drive to the 7200.11 disaster.
There are better products out there, why should I waste time on a company that used to produce scrap?
Too many to name. When buying my current Asus G73 I was looking as HPs offerings as well. Their FX series or whatever was called was within price range. A friend of mine got it from the states, after about 2 months of use he got rid of it. In high school most of my friends had HP laptops, some even had their early tablet like laptops. They were louder than a tornado, when they actually turned on.Originally Posted by geoxile
So how many of their laptops have you used and when? AFAIK the quality of their products has gone up quite a bit recently
My GFs current laptop is a 17' HP that is falling apart by the day. The keyboard is sticking, lacks responsiveness, feels cheaper than a free hooker. The screen, my god the designers must have been blind.
During residence first year a few of my dorm mates had HP laptops. I ran a service first year, 50 bucks and I get rid of software problems for you (good money maker, people were paying me to play with their laptops really) and I hated working on every single HP laptop. Most people complained about battery life, heat, noise. Stuff I couldn't really do much about besides take it apart and clean the dust.
One of the main reasons is they are so cheap, the displays are usually so garbage you can see the horrible viewing angles from afar.
My parents don't use a desktop at home, they use a HP laptop (dad bought it on a business trip without telling me) and again wow. When I pick it up with one hand the body bends. Came with so much bloatware I just zero filled the HDD and put a new copy of windows on it.
Just to name a few. I'm sure their newer line ups are much better quality wise than they were before, however I will not be touching anything they've made still. Same goes with Dell, so many bad experiences I really don't care what they do in the future. Just like Seagate, I will never buy another product made by them, simply because I lost a 1TB drive to the 7200.11 disaster.
There are better products out there, why should I waste time on a company that used to produce scrap?
It will never have a chance to compete if HP continues to ruin the user experience with boatloads of vendorware.
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Not to mention if you remove the bloatware you void the warranty
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VIZIO FTW
Totally agree. Mcafee slowed the crap out of my lappy.Originally Posted by Dylan
It will never have a chance to compete if HP continues to ruin the user experience with boatloads of vendorware.
Not to mention if you remove the bloatware you void the warranty
VIZIO FTW
Never again I would purchase a HP laptop. All of them had a power jack failure in less than 6 months of use.
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Really? That is some major BS right there, I'm glad I dont own oneOriginally Posted by Droidisthebest
Totally agree. Mcafee slowed the crap out of my lappy.
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VIZIO FTW
4 pound 14" laptop with a ULV? Commodity-grade. What Sony can do with a 4.4 pound 15": 1920x1080 IPS panel, i7-3612QM (quad), Nvidia 640M LE, RAID 0 SSD option, need I say more? http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SYCTOProcess?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921666457151&categoryId=8198552921644863998
On the other hand, 4.2 pounds with a standard-voltage CPU is a good lightweight 14" target - Dell Inspiron 14z was 4.2-4.4 pounds, Lenovo's Thinkpad T420s (and every T4x0s, going back to I believe 2009) weighs just 4 pounds and has a standard-voltage CPU, plus Quadro NVS option, mSATA slot, 2.5" HDD, etc. 4 pounds is neglgible weight savings for a huge performance hit. Too bad HP doesn't make something like the Thinkpad X1 Carbon (3 pounds, 0.71" thick, 14" 1600x900, same footprint as a Macbook Air 13, etc.).
On the other hand, 4.2 pounds with a standard-voltage CPU is a good lightweight 14" target - Dell Inspiron 14z was 4.2-4.4 pounds, Lenovo's Thinkpad T420s (and every T4x0s, going back to I believe 2009) weighs just 4 pounds and has a standard-voltage CPU, plus Quadro NVS option, mSATA slot, 2.5" HDD, etc. 4 pounds is neglgible weight savings for a huge performance hit. Too bad HP doesn't make something like the Thinkpad X1 Carbon (3 pounds, 0.71" thick, 14" 1600x900, same footprint as a Macbook Air 13, etc.).
I personally like the new samsung series 9 ultrabooks. They are some sleek looking pcs
I never had a problem with any hp products and I have bought quite a few.
I never had a problem with any hp products and I have bought quite a few.
Wow, I'm underwhelmed by this for a 'new' laptop. I just got a 'Refurbed' MBA Mid 2011 and it has nearly the same specs with the exception of screen size and battery life. I paid $849 and still pretty much got a brand new laptop.
I hate to be a bit biased, but the brand new MBA's start at the same price, but include a better CPU (3rd gen i5) and better graphics (HD 4000, significant increase over the previous HD 3000). And honestly, I have tried 3 different 'Beats Audio' (HTC Rezound, and two HP laptops) devices and find them rather unappealing. The MBA isn't the best, but is actually worlds ahead of probably every other laptop not dedicated to audio. I find it much better than the 'Beats Audio'.
In the end, I got a pretty similar laptop to this for $350 less. $300 if I had went with the 13" model.
I hate to be a bit biased, but the brand new MBA's start at the same price, but include a better CPU (3rd gen i5) and better graphics (HD 4000, significant increase over the previous HD 3000). And honestly, I have tried 3 different 'Beats Audio' (HTC Rezound, and two HP laptops) devices and find them rather unappealing. The MBA isn't the best, but is actually worlds ahead of probably every other laptop not dedicated to audio. I find it much better than the 'Beats Audio'.
In the end, I got a pretty similar laptop to this for $350 less. $300 if I had went with the 13" model.
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I agree with you on the beats audio products. Beats is garbage imo but HP does make some nice laptops i think. I like their sleekbooks/ultrabooks along with their high performance laptops and at great prices too imo. I think they got some really nice designs. Almost as nice as samsung as far as style.Originally Posted by pez
Wow, I'm underwhelmed by this for a 'new' laptop. I just got a 'Refurbed' MBA Mid 2011 and it has nearly the same specs with the exception of screen size and battery life. I paid $849 and still pretty much got a brand new laptop.
I hate to be a bit biased, but the brand new MBA's start at the same price, but include a better CPU (3rd gen i5) and better graphics (HD 4000, significant increase over the previous HD 3000). And honestly, I have tried 3 different 'Beats Audio' (HTC Rezound, and two HP laptops) devices and find them rather unappealing. The MBA isn't the best, but is actually worlds ahead of probably every other laptop not dedicated to audio. I find it much better than the 'Beats Audio'.
In the end, I got a pretty similar laptop to this for $350 less. $300 if I had went with the 13" model.
The beats audio is different for every laptop out there. I've heard some great sounding laptops and cell phone with beats, and some not so good.. The Envy lineup I hear is actually pretty good.
I bought my sister a 17" HP laptop with their 1st generation quad-core APU and the build quality is top notch. The kicker is that I only paid $432 for it including tax at Microcenter.
I believe, no matter how hard PC makers try to make their laptops look good or attract mass appeal, in the end they will fail, because they all lack one simple thing, reliable customer support. I can buy a Apple and never have to worry about support, can't say the same for PC users and not everyone is a do-it-yourself-er or OCN member.
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