Are those all DX 9 games? (the ones that give problems)

 

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman

Are those all DX 9 games? (the ones that give problems)

Yeah I think, except Metal gear rising, but I think there that stutter is caused by big action scenes. Also games are run in compatibillity mode or they won`t run (Jade empire, Morrowind), don`t remember for OF: Red river? Anyone here else with this problem, this is windows problem?

Also my memory is 3200mhz but it is running on 2133mhz. Still waiting for BIOS updates.

 

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Originally Posted by SteelBox

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman

Are those all DX 9 games? (the ones that give problems)

Yeah I think, except Metal gear rising, but I think there that stutter is caused by big action scenes. Also games are run in compatibillity mode or they won`t run (Jade empire, Morrowind), don`t remember for OF: Red river? Anyone here else with this problem, this is windows problem?

It may be a combination of things os/driver/DX version. I would first try high performance mode in the power plan settings in windows 10, then i would try using afterburner to disable ulps on your graphics card.

 

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It may be a combination of things os/driver/DX version. I would first try high performance mode in the power plan settings in windows 10, then i would try using afterburner to disable ulps on your graphics card.

Already tried High perfomance mode - didn`t help, I will try ULPS later.

 

Have you tried disabling vsync or capping the framerates?

 

Last night I tested memory, everything seems fine, 2x8gb 3200mhz working on 2133mhz, still waiting for bios updates.



I noticed now couple of stuttering in mafia 2, game was capped to 60fps, stuttering happens when fps for a second fall to 57fps. Lowering setting make it better. Also tested in Xcom enemy within no stuttering.

Is this normal score for this cpu? R 1600 stock - 3.4ghz, cpuz version 1x79 x64

 

I tryed some setting in mafia 2. Even with medium settings on 1024*768 resolution I get fps drops. Is this game problem or what?

 

I will try memory with new bios. When I google Morrowind - Mafia 2 - Windows 10 there is a lot links about problems with that combination. Some in Mafia 2 report also fps drops (with i7 and 980ti) si I am pretty sure that Win10 is the problem. If something would be wrong than I woulg get a constant stutter in newer titles. I will wait for new bios and new gpu, than I am going to to better testing and overclocking.

 

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I will try memory with new bios. When I google Morrowind - Mafia 2 - Windows 10 there is a lot links about problems with that combination. Some in Mafia 2 report also fps drops (with i7 and 980ti) si I am pretty sure that Win10 is the problem. If something would be wrong than I woulg get a constant stutter in newer titles. I will wait for new bios and new gpu, than I am going to to better testing and overclocking.

Did you solve your problem? this is happen to me too, in games such Counter strike 1.6 no matter what resolution or fps, or vsync or third programs to caps fps, the problem persist is like VISUAL lag.. very annoying

A guy told me that, when he was using his gtx 950, and playing above 720P quality, like 1280x720, or 1920x1080, he was getting like stutering, he solved that stuttering, by buying a DVI with HDMI port. so he connected the dvi port into his Monitor, and the HDMi into hes GTX, and he problem was solved.

I have a EVGA gtx 1060, ryzen 5 1600. asrock b350 fatality k4 gamming with patriot 2x4 ddr 3200, no errrors, too but i can notice this problems x.x

 

I play games going back to DX8 with no stuttering. I believe it is a memory issue as with my system at least, the more ram speed there is the better it runs and also there are some "sweet spots". For instance I hit a sweet spot at 3.8 ghz/2940mhz. As I pushed the clocks higher performance actually dropped off until it hit 3.9/3020 and performance jumped up. I'm leaving it there for now.

The only other thing that has caused stuttering for me is latency issues. I used this to find and fix my problems. In my case it was audio driver conflicts.

http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

 

I still have this problem. I think this is Win10 problem and in smaller chance ram problem (first I though that this is because corsair ram because every person who had stttuter had that ram but now I see people with stutter who have HyperX and Adata ram). I tryed 2133, 2666 and 2933 ram - still stutter. Some people told me that on win7 they don7t have that stutter.

I was advised in this forum to try disable windows high precision event timer.

I will try again with that, I just need to install game that stutter. I will report later.

 

I installed Mafia 2 again, this time on SSD (last time it was on HDD).

I disabled windows high precision event timer for this testing.

When I load Mafia 2 Chapter 5 and when in game scene starts I got drop from my 60 (vsync on) to ~50 and I get small stutter. When I load again there is no stutter. Only when I exit game and enter again and load I got that fps drop/stutter.

I changed my resolution to 800*600 and turned vsync off and it is the same situation (fps was very high, there was a big fps drop from 400 to 200 and stutter happens).

I will change my mbo and gpu soon but I hope that would solve this problem. If that doesn`t solve I am coming back to win7.

For this I blame win10 and in some small chance ram settings.

 

Another Thing that calls me attention was the TOOL Intel Compiler Patch 1.0 ICC_PATCH, which there are many forums in REDDIT, that say, this tool help AMD motherboards, to clean intel codes on softwares, apps, files in windows that, are slowdown our AMD system...

So pay attention.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3s5r4d/is_nvidia_sabotaging_performance_for_no_visual/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3sb007/amd_cpu_users_this_tool_lets_you_patch_exe_files/

 

According stutter in old games...

I noticed that when I upgraded to R9-290x. The thing was that GPU did its job within some cycle, and then went to sleep - underclocked to basic frequency. When the GPU tried to compute next batch of workload, it had to clock back. Result was stuttering.

 

I use max settings and SGSAAx4 to hold gpu speed high.

 

I doubt this is a problem with ryzen I think it's a problem with win10, sounds really annoying. I use win7 64-bit no problems with any of the older games I play. I'd check for other programs running in the background, I try to run my system for gaming as clean as possible with nothing running in the background. You could try win7 which seems to work well for older games.

 

To me this happens too in Windows 7.

So maybe we need to found a way to Force our GPU to reach at least to 50% but how can we do that when games are to old such counter strike 1.6 that consume less than 1% of gpu lol
it consumes like less than 7% of cpu when usen ryzen or xen intel. lol x.x

 

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To me this happens too in Windows 7.

So maybe we need to found a way to Force our GPU to reach at least to 50% but how can we do that when games are to old such counter strike 1.6 that consume less than 1% of gpu lol
it consumes like less than 7% of cpu when usen ryzen or xen intel. lol x.x

Apps like MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision X allow you to pin your GPU clock to maximum. Google "KBoost Precision X". However, I think you need an EVGA card to use Kboost.

 

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Apps like MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision X allow you to pin your GPU clock to maximum. Google "KBoost Precision X". However, I think you need an EVGA card to use Kboost.

Got ya, but whats the point of put full clock on EVGA gtx 1060 6gb when playing old games such cs 1.6 that doesn't seems to put effort on gpu, like less than 1% o.o is all about cpu i guess :c, do you think that kboost precision x can help in cs 1.6 to run it smooth, without visual lag?

 

Before my current card ati 7770 I had RX 480, I remember that I had some constant stutter in Homeworld: deserts of kharak with Ryzen but I thought that was the game problem. 2 days after that I sold RX 480 to miners. With that in mind I don`t think it is the gpu problem, than I would had 2 gpu with same problem which is rarely possible. Also with gpu problem it would stutter in every game at least I think.

Win10 or RAM are problems, that my opinion. Hynix ram is optimised for Intel so there maybe be a problem in ram settings. Maybe agesa will change it.

Has anyone her tried to change different ram models, see will it affect? Has anyone tryed testing with that what @x58haze posted, TOOL Intel Compiler Patch 1.0 ICC_PATCH?

When I buy new mbo and gpu and if I still have this stutter I will go to win7. What do I lose with win7 when comparing to 10? I know I won`t have directX 12 (not a big deal anyway, not a big performance difference), what about other performances? Ryzen will work on full speed? I remember that when Ryzen was released in the beginning there was the information that Ryzen was 17% faster in Win7 than Win10 in draw calls, probably because poor optimization for win10 in beginning.

 

I am using Samsung E-die ram, win10, and I use the ICC Patch on everything. I have no stutters in old games with my Fury.

That said, I have gone from a 6950 to 280X, 290X, and then Fury. They all ran great on old games except the 290X which had stutters and low frame rates in some games because it would drop to idle clocks when the load got too light. My cure was to run with AA and AF maxed out in CCC.

All I notice is that the mouse sometimes isn't as smooth as it is in newer games.

 

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I am using Samsung E-die ram, win10, and I use the ICC Patch on everything. I have no stutters in old games with my Fury.

That said, I have gone from a 6950 to 280X, 290X, and then Fury. They all ran great on old games except the 290X which had stutters and low frame rates in some games because it would drop to idle clocks when the load got too light. My cure was to run with AA and AF maxed out in CCC.

All I notice is that the mouse sometimes isn't as smooth as it is in newer games.

I have tried too to force Cs 1.6 to run full AA 32 antialising, AF 16x, but meh doesnt seem to put gpu % 1-2% also by setting PREFER MAXIMUM performance to put all the gtx 1060 CLocks HIGH 24/7 doesnt seems to help at all, because cs 1.6 is more CPU than GPU.

So what should i do? how can i boost the cpu to use more % and have a better responsiveness game? at least in cs 1.6 that i really like that game.

 

I know nothing of CS 1.6, but suspect that you might be struggling with single core performance. Here is my system playing a heavily modded DX8 game.

Note the gpu is not struggling even at 2560 X 1440 with AA and AF maxed out, but the cpu is pegged on one core. If that is your situation then all you can do is overclock the cpu and maybe turn off SMT.

 

Set CPU in Windows to 100% min, 100% max and all cores unparked. Then go fiddle with GPU.

 

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I know nothing of CS 1.6, but suspect that you might be struggling with single core performance. Here is my system playing a heavily modded DX8 game.

Note the gpu is not struggling even at 2560 X 1440 with AA and AF maxed out, but the cpu is pegged on one core. If that is your situation then all you can do is overclock the cpu and maybe turn off SMT.

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Originally Posted by miklkit

I know nothing of CS 1.6, but suspect that you might be struggling with single core performance. Here is my system playing a heavily modded DX8 game.

Note the gpu is not struggling even at 2560 X 1440 with AA and AF maxed out, but the cpu is pegged on one core. If that is your situation then all you can do is overclock the cpu and maybe turn off SMT.

Wel it seems that your GPU is actually getting good like close to full Usage right? and thats like omg, in directx 8 games o.o

This is cs 1.6 i set to affinity 2 and press ok of course the thing is touch the task manager while in window cs 1.6 will drop to 46 fps

So im using SMT OFF 6 physical cores on ryzen 5 1600, now you can see, cpu 1 36% this is not always actually it slit between all, like: 5% cpu 1, cpu 2 90-100%, cpu 3 4-7% and so on.