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Will they work on the Crosshair IV Formula?

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#1 ·
Hello! I have a question for you guys, I Just purchased a new AMD FX-8370 CPU and an ASUS Radeon R9 390 for my PC witch are still coming in the mail. Will both the new CPU and Video Card work with the Crosshair IV Formula? I know I should have done more research before buying them, but I got excited and figured they'd work. I've read that the FX-8350 will unofficially work with the 3029 BIOS. http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?30386-CHIV-AM3-Support-Can-I-install-an-FX-8350-in-my-Crosshair-IV-Formula

My current rig with its Phenom II 1090T 3.7ghz and crossfired Radeon HD 5970s, all water cooled with 8gigs of ram, Can 'run' Fallout 4. BUT, the game has to be on minimum settings with shadows turned off and FPS unlocked in the .ini file, and ccc settings are all on performance. And the game is still extremely laggy and choppy. And at some points it freezes and requires a restart. This is with crossfire turned on/off and video cards OCed and not. So I figured it was time for an upgrade.

Question: Will the FX-8370 AND the R9 390 work in the CrossHair IV Formula, or do I need to get the Formula V (rather not)?

BIOS: 3029

Windows 7 64

8gigs Memory DDR3

Thank you!

-Peter
 
#2 ·
Hi there,

Well as far as I know for the Crosshair IV Formula only the FX-81xx are supported by the motherboard, for support for the FX-8370, you need a mobo with the Chipset: 990FX, and the Crosshair IV Formula have the 890FX.

Regarding the Bios, maybe it works maybe not, the thing is that the mobo doesnt support AM3+, so I can tell you for sure, you can try updating the Bios and see
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Your CPU is a Vishera, and I dont see a official support from the websites I checked for that motherboard

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula processor support and specifications

But there is an interesting thing that the chipset: 890FX support Vishera

AMD 890FX chipset processor support

So this is more like, test and see, but maybe someone else have more knowledge
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Hope that helps, Cheers
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#3 ·
Ok thank you very much! I'll just have to see, and if not.. I'll probably get the Crosshair V for Christmas. Cheers!

-Peter
 
#4 ·
hold your horses

my MSI 890FXA-GD70 is a AM3 motherboard, but a BIOS update added AM3+ support. I ran my FX4300 nearly flawlessly. the only issues I came up with was I could not set the northbridge to its standard 2400MHz on the fx4300. I was stuck at 2000MHz. a FSB overclock solved that quite easily.

do a bit more research instead of mearly asking a question and deciding from one post.

MANY AM3 motherboards support AM3+ with just an update of the BIOS

find your motherboard on its support website and see if the BIOS updates have descriptions. also check and see if the CPU list is updated with your 8370 at all.

EDIT didnt mean to come off a bit brash, but you get the idea. check your motherboard website for info before spending money!!
 
#5 ·
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hold your horses
find your motherboard on its support website and see if the BIOS updates have descriptions. also check and see if the CPU list is updated with your 8370 at all.
Yes!, you are right
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that's why I said
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Originally Posted by josepi View Post

So this is more like, test and see, but maybe someone else have more knowledge
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I verify with the official CPU support list for that Mobo, and also with another website, and there was nothing that mention support for that specific CPU.

But i know that a Bios update makes AM3 support AM3+ but I couldn't find info on that specific mobo that support that statement, although maybe there is
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#8 ·
So I was digging deeper into the sbyss... And from the looks of it, on the AMD MoBo support and CPU support pages, ALSO the CPU-Upgrade.com pages...

(Crosshair IV Formula) BIOS 3029
CPU- Upgrade.com: (AM3) Supports up to FX-8150. http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/Crosshair_IV_Formula.html
CPU-Upgrade.com: (Chipset 890FX ) "Unofficialy" Supports up to FX-8350. http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-AMD_(chipsets)/890FX.html
AMD.com CPU Support: Supports up to FX-8150 "Beta Support Only" http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_IV_FORMULA/HelpDesk_CPU/

Last AMD BIOS update came out in 2012 for the crosshair IV Formula.

So.. From what I can gather from this without personally testing it out yet, is that, the 890FX /CrossHair IV Formula can "unofficially" use the AM3+ Piledriver/Vishera FX-8350. Witch came out in 2012.
The FX-8370 Came out in 2014. And is just like the FX-8350.. only higher GHZ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_FX_microprocessors

My conclusion... The Crosshair IV Formula will accept the FX-8370. AMD did not update there Support list for CPU/chipset sense 2012, and the FX-8370 came out after that date, but is basically the same as the FX-8350, witch is "unofficially supported".

Anyway... We Shall See! And once I Do.. I will post my findings on this Thread. mmmmmmm..K!
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P.S. Please keep posting ideas and thoughts, you guys are a really good help!

-Peter.
 
#10 ·
Hello everyone! Well Guess what... They work! FX-8370 and ASUS R9 390 SRTIX Work just fine in the Crosshair IV Formula! BIOS shows new CPU. And, where Fallout use to set my video setting to Low. It now sets them to Ultra. And I can play on those settings and everything looks fine, no more lag or chop.

However... I have encountered a new issue. Upon arriving at certain areas in fallout that require a lot of video processing and CPU/RAM power consumption, my computer will just 'shut off' instantaneously.
No BSOD. The motherboard still has power(can still see LEDs on), I can't turn it back on until I toggle the power switch on the PSU from OFF to ON again. Then, I can turn my PC back on with the power button on the case.

It only does this while under a lot of load in Fallout 4, I understand that this could be a over heating issue, so, I checked. While in game, I would ALT-TAB out and check the loads and temps of GPU, and CPU. Everything is in normal parameters. And, my RAM is NOT Overclocked.

These are the temps I got right before shut down...
CPU: 32c, water cooled.
GPU: 52c, Air.

Not really hot at all Eh'?
Well... I'm starting the think its my PSU. Even though its a 1200W power supply. Its a Silverstone ZEUS ZU1200M, it came out like Seven years ago, and I've done a lot of overclocking with it. My PC Case is running 8 fans, a Koolance EXOS water pump/radiator witch has 3 fans, a Zalman fan and temp/ load monitor/controller, and the new R9 390 and FX-8370. This never happened before. Only after installing the new GPU and CPU. ASUS Recommends a minimum 750W PSU for the GPU alone!

What do you guys think? Thanks!

-Peter
 
#11 ·
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Thats good news
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I did some research and found that the Crosshair IV Formula is able to support the Vishera CPU with a beta bios, as someone said, the thing is that the bios have some issues with OCing, or so they said.

The best way to see what's the problem is running some benchmarks and test the max temps, and general voltages.

You can run Aida64 or HWiNFO64 to check temps and run benchmarks

and use these IntelBurnTest / http://Prime95v.28.7 Build 1]Prime 95[/URL] for the heavy test

keep us posted

maybe your mobo doesnt have enough juice, or your PSU is faulty.
 
#12 ·
Another Note, I just ran memTest86+ to test my RAM individually and they came up with no errors.
This is strange, because all other game titles run good.. Its just Fallout 4 that, while I'm playing, my computer completely shuts off. And I have to toggle the switch on the PSU Off/On in order to turn it back on.
Could it be the Game causing it to do this? Or the PSU?

AMD FX-8370 4.0ghz
ASUS Radeon R9 390
8gigs DDR3 CoarsAir Dominator-GT 1333mhz
SilverStone ZM1200M ZEUS PSU

-Peter.
 
#13 ·
Ok thanks, I'll let you guys know what happens.
 
#14 ·
Hello! Its been a few hours of testing and stuff... Here is what I got.

So, as I have stated above, I ran MemTest86+ for each individual DIMM. And they all are error Free!
Next, I stress tested my CPU for two hours, all 8 cores passed non-stop stress testing and the temp got up to 55c. System was as stable as could be, no failures what so ever.

Finally! I stress tested my video card with FurMark and guess what, after clicking the button to Start the Stress Test, my computer completely 'SHUT OFF'. Just like what it is doing in Fallout 4.
I tinkered with the FurMark settings to try and run it with minimal "stress", low resolution, setting set to low. And right when I click the "Burn In" button to start the stress test. My PC Shuts Off. And like before, I have to switch my PSU OFF/ON, then I can turn my PC on using the power button. And everything is normal... That is until I use a graphics intensive program.

So what do you think? Only when there is a huge power load 'It Seems', my pc shuts down.

Whats up guys!?!

-Peter.
 
#16 ·
I have the AMD Beta drivers installed, I'm not sure if its a driver issue though... To shut the computer completely off altogether, requiring PSU to be shut off then turned back on to boot up, seems like a HW issue. However! I will remove the beta drives and install the regular one and see anyway.

My PSU is the 1200W SilverStone ZM1200M ZEUS. It is around Seven years old now, I bought it when my case (Antec 1200) first came out. However long ago that was... probably seven years I'm thinking.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256038

I'm thinking that its the PSU. It might not have enough juice anymore. Heck! Its the oldest thing in my case!

I might go to a store called Memory Express tomorrow, and get a CoarsAir 1500W, install it. And see... If it keeps happening after that. Then I'll return it. And figure something ells out.
What I'm hoping is that its the PSU, and not something like my Crosshair IV Formula.

Ok, so I'll try the driver removal and see what happens. Then tomorrow I'll go to MemExpress and get another PSU and test it out!

Keep you guys posted...

-Peter.
 
#17 ·
Well, I found out what the problem was with my PSU. I had the wrong modular 6 pin connector plugged into my video card. Instead of the one that is for PCIe. It was for HDDs or something! DOH!
Anyway, at the end of all this. The Crosshair IV Formula is still one hell of a MoBo, and I've been playing Fallout 4 non stop with beautiful graphics!

Thank you guys for all the help!

Peter.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by Peter386 View Post

Well, I found out what the problem was with my PSU. I had the wrong modular 6 pin connector plugged into my video card. Instead of the one that is for PCIe. It was for HDDs or something! DOH!
Anyway, at the end of all this. The Crosshair IV Formula is still one hell of a MoBo, and I've been playing Fallout 4 non stop with beautiful graphics!

Thank you guys for all the help!

Peter.
OMG, well that sort of things happens
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Im glad it was that, and not other cable.

It's nice to see that you have you PC reade
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would be nice to see how good that CPU + Mobo perform with some OCing
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, maybe that's for another chapter.

Anyhow enjoy your rig haha, Cheers!
 
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#21 ·
Hello guys,

I thought I would throw in my experience with my Crosshair IV Formula. I've been running my FX-8350 water cooled along with 2 HD7950's in crossfire and 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance memory for about 2 years now. I have a great 1050watt Enermax Revolution 85+ PSU for reliability. I have ran it clocked to 4.8ghz flawlessly and have not had one issue at all. The only thing that doesn't work due to CPU incompatibilities is the automatic overclocking in the bios. For me it made no difference because I manually clock it. This board has been a beast since I had the Phenom 1055T. I wouldnt be shocked if the FX-9590 works also even at the 225 watts needed. For me it wouldnt be a big enough upgrade to spend so much money plus taking a chance. I hope your rig has worked good for you after you found the problem Peter386.
 
#22 ·
The CrossHair IV has been handling the new CPU and Vid card like a champ! The only issue that I had was that I had the wrong 8 or 6 pin power cable plugged into the vid card, but figured out that I had to plug in the "PCI-E" power cable instead of the one I was using. lol.. anyway.. Very happy and hope to keep using the Crosshair IV for many years to come. Thank you for asking!
 
#24 ·
I actually haven't Stressed my cpu yet!
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Its at 4.2ghz and I've only used in game stress testing and have been doing a lot of gaming the past two months. Its been running flawlessly. Thanks for reminding me. Once GTA V is done downloading I'll do a Prime95 stress test for a few hours and see if there are any issues. Could you please tell me what you did to improve or fix the problem if it does occur anyway Divineal? Thanks man!

-Peter.
 
#25 ·
Hi guys

I had a look at this theard and ordered the FX-8370 to do a low budgert upgrade on my rig.

So yesterday I installed the FX-8370 and startet up the rig, everything works fine. So now today the rig din't start, red led on the mobo is on. checked some forums, they said it's too much voltage on the cpu(over 1.5). i pulled out and in the battery on the mobo and startet again, the rig works fine...

May someone can help me to set the right settings in the bios, so that I don't need to pull out the battery everytime? Thnx

Edit: I found the problem, it wasn't an issue with the CPU Voltage...My Memory won't run at 1866Mhz, set it at 1600Mhz and anything's runs perfectly.