[Filozofreyiz]

Hello again,

Why are there two chipset temperatures tabs in HWiNFO? (I think the chipset is 58.5C related to PCH. Because, it was 60C before when PCH's RPM is 0. The temperature dropped when the RPM of PCH increased.

By the way, do you know how to change speed of PCH fan on the Windows? I set it as "Silence" in BIOS and if i change my case fans from Gigabyte System Information Viewer, PCH fan's RPM is increasing itself.

https://ibb.co/XtBqwyg

 

[bigcid10]

So, are these options enough for manual overclocking on the RAM? I added new photos on my previous post. Please, may you check it? If i overclock the RAM as manually or automatically, Ryzen Master and CPU-z etc. are showing different CAS Latency.

Photos from CPU-z:

https://ibb.co/4KXPZDL

https://ibb.co/GTYKRrF (Slot #4 is same too).

Only CAS Latency is wrong. It is weird.

can you get it too work at 16 ?
these boards don't like odd numbered for the first set
I don't know why

 

[pal]

can you get it too work at 16 ?
these boards don't like odd numbered for the first set
I don't know why

disable gear down mode in advanced memory timings, scroll down the page.

 

[Ray666]

can you get it too work at 16 ?
these boards don't like odd numbered for the first set
I don't know why

There is a dependency for CL to GearDown mode.
If GearDown mode is enabled, only even CL values are valid. So odd values will be rounded up to the next even value.
And GearDown obviously is enabled by default.
That is since the first Ryzens.

https://www.futureplus.com/what-is-ddr4-memory-gear-down-mode/

 

[rastaviper]

I set these options for manual overclocking on RAM. Isn't it enough?



https://ibb.co/4P2ZdxS



https://ibb.co/3SWVTvD



And these photos for the XMP Profile 1 of my RAM:



https://ibb.co/Mfy0VQF



https://ibb.co/crGdBjN



My RAM's box:



https://ibb.co/7b77yTh



Profile options for my RAM on the SPD tab:



https://ibb.co/XtgmvLw

Nope, you haven't posted the menu I am talking about.
It should be called Infinity something (timings).
And there you have all ram subtimings, other in clk units and other in Hexadecimal units like OEH, OFH etc

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

 

[Filozofreyiz]

disable gear down mode in advanced memory timings, scroll down the page.

Do i need to disable gear-down mode for CL17? It is CL18 now. I don't use render programmes. I think, it is not important for games. By the way, so, there is no problem with my RAM. Am i Right? Must everyone disable gear-down mode for guaranteed CAS Latency?

Edit: Yes, I disabled Gear-Down mode. Ryzen Master and CPU-Z show CAS Latency as 17 now. Thanks! But here is new problem. RAM is 2T instead of 1T now.

 

[nangu]

Hello again,

Why are there two chipset temperatures tabs in HWiNFO? (I think the chipset is 58.5C related to PCH. Because, it was 60C before when PCH's RPM is 0. The temperature dropped when the RPM of PCH increased.

By the way, do you know how to change speed of PCH fan on the Windows? I set it as "Silence" in BIOS and if i change my case fans from Gigabyte System Information Viewer, PCH fan's RPM is increasing itself.

https://ibb.co/XtBqwyg

Matt from Gigabyte said earlier in this thread that the correct PCH temp is the second value you outlined in the picture.

About SIV, I submitted a ticket to Gigabyte Support and they sent me a modified version to try which doesn't change the PCH fan profile configured in BIOS, so no more PCH fan full speed after a previously saved profile was applied in SIV for Windows. I don't know if they will put this modified version for public download in the future tough.

By the way, tech support was very kind to help me solve that minor issue with SIV, so kudos for them.

 

[Filozofreyiz]

Nope, you haven't posted the menu I am talking about.
It should be called Infinity something (timings).
And there you have all ram subtimings, other in clk units and other in Hexadecimal units like OEH, OFH etc

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

Hi bro, thanks for the comment.

I disabled Gear-Down mode and it is changed as CL 17. (So, i didn't overlock manually. XMP Profile 1 is enabled). But now, after the disabling Gear-Down mode, Command Rate (CR) increased to 2T. How can i fix it? Can i change "Command Rate (tCMD) as "2T" manually (in 3rd photo) Will it works?

Here is photos from the BIOS:

https://ibb.co/28sQ7fQ

https://ibb.co/88TRWbY

https://ibb.co/9VWvdHG

https://ibb.co/LNXyvMF

Must i change "auto" sides with manual numbers right of the table?

Edit: I changed Command Rate (CR) to 1T from 2T. PC booted well. Ryzen Master and CPU-Z show RAM as CL17 and 1T. Do i need to control something for stability? RAM works on XMP Profile 1 and I changed only Command Rate and Gear-Down mode (off) manually. Others are "auto".

Screenshot from CPU-z:

https://ibb.co/sgPmm0j

Edit2: I got blue screen after the 1T. I changed it to "auto" again. What is your advice? CL18 - 1T vs CL17 2T ?

Edit3: I tested Gear-Down "auto" vs Gear-Down "disabled" in Assassin's Creed Odyysey (RAM is CL17 - 2T when Gear Down "disabled" and RAM is CL18 - 1T when Gear Down "auto").

So, this test is about CL17 - 2T (Gear-Down "disabled") vs CL17 - 1T (Gear-Down "auto").

Photos:

https://ibb.co/wrmdPkT

https://ibb.co/Q98FRSv

Matt from Gigabyte said earlier in this thread that the correct PCH temp is the second value you outlined in the picture.

About SIV, I submitted a ticket to Gigabyte Support and they sent me a modified version to try which doesn't change the PCH fan profile configured in BIOS, so no more PCH fan full speed after a previously saved profile was applied in SIV for Windows. I don't know if they will put this modified version for public download in the future tough.

By the way, tech support was very kind to help me solve that minor issue with SIV, so kudos for them.

Thanks for the comment.

But, the temperature in the 1st line changes depending on the speed of the PCH fan. If it isn't temperature of PCH. What is that?

 

[StangMan04]

Having a heck of a time overclocking my 3700x after updating my BIOS to F7B on my X570 Aorus Master. I was on F5L prior. I had an issue where I rebooted and my PC rebooted and reset my settings. I had my profile backed up on my USB stick but I am sick and accidentally chose save profile and overwrote my backed up profile, my mistake.

So I am trying to manually set my CPU to 4.2ghz at 1.275v. No dice, I was able to get my memory to 3800CL16 with 1900FCLK and boots and tests fine stock CPU settings. I am unable to get my PC to boot with any CPU manual clock set. Sucks, I may tinker more but sucks I can't get back to were I was prior.

edit: I was able to get my PC to boot once with a manual overclock and ran cinebench to check scores. I got no errors, rebooted to save profile in the event I did something right and it hung again and wouldn't boot.

 

[mdl054]

Tried the latest update for my Elite and the IOMMU groups are TERRIBLE. Looks like anything after 4x has been a jumbled mess. Any work on separating the groups properly? Override patches are a massive security concern. The groups were amazing before.



Before: https://pastebin.com/YC5uzhxt
After: https://pastebin.com/hJvitKiG


This is actually a huge problem for the linux and power user community

 

[Rapidian]

I set these options for manual overclocking on RAM. Isn't it enough?

https://ibb.co/4P2ZdxS

Profile options for my RAM on the SPD tab:

https://ibb.co/XtgmvLw

@Filozofreyiz, did you notice your SPD coded in says 3500 not 3600? You're setting 3600 (or 36.00) in the BIOS. That's a slight overclock and maybe causing your issues. It's not the "out of the box" XMP. Try seting to 35.00 and maybe all goes your way.

 

[lkramer]

Tried the latest update for my Elite and the IOMMU groups are TERRIBLE. Looks like anything after 4x has been a jumbled mess. Any work on separating the groups properly? Override patches are a massive security concern. The groups were amazing before.



Before: https://pastebin.com/YC5uzhxt
After: https://pastebin.com/hJvitKiG


This is actually a huge problem for the linux and power user community

Did you enable SVM Mode in the Advanced CPU Settings menu and enable IOMMU in the Miscellaneous menu?

Additionally, did you try setting the following three settings in the AMD CBS menu?

• ACS Enable to Enable;
• Enable AER Cap to Enable; and
• PCIe ARI Support to Enable

The IOMMU groups were the same as the ones in the After link on the X570 AORUS Master using the latest BIOS version until I enabled the five settings listed above. The last setting, PCIe ARI Support, may not be required if you are not using SR-IOV.

 

[mdl054]

Did you enable SVM Mode in the Advanced CPU Settings menu and enable IOMMU in the Miscellaneous menu?

Additionally, did you try setting the following three settings in the AMD CBS menu?

• ACS Enable to Enable;
• Enable AER Cap to Enable; and
• PCIe ARI Support to Enable

The IOMMU groups were the same as the ones in the After link on the X570 AORUS Master using the latest BIOS version until I enabled the five settings listed above. The last setting, PCIe ARI Support, may not be required if you are not using SR-IOV.

That worked perfectly, I can't believe I didn't catch that the first time around. Thank you!

 

[rastaviper]

Hi bro, thanks for the comment.



I disabled Gear-Down mode and it is changed as CL 17. (So, i didn't overlock manually. XMP Profile 1 is enabled). But now, after the disabling Gear-Down mode, Command Rate (CR) increased to 2T. How can i fix it? Can i change "Command Rate (tCMD) as "2T" manually (in 3rd photo) Will it works?



Here is photos from the BIOS:



https://ibb.co/28sQ7fQ



https://ibb.co/88TRWbY



https://ibb.co/9VWvdHG



https://ibb.co/LNXyvMF



Must i change "auto" sides with manual numbers right of the table?



Edit: I changed Command Rate (CR) to 1T from 2T. PC booted well. Ryzen Master and CPU-Z show RAM as CL17 and 1T. Do i need to control something for stability? RAM works on XMP Profile 1 and I changed only Command Rate and Gear-Down mode (off) manually. Others are "auto".



Screenshot from CPU-z:



https://ibb.co/sgPmm0j



Edit2: I got blue screen after the 1T. I changed it to "auto" again. What is your advice? CL18 - 1T vs CL17 2T ?



Edit3: I tested Gear-Down "auto" vs Gear-Down "disabled" in Assassin's Creed Odyysey (RAM is CL17 - 2T when Gear Down "disabled" and RAM is CL18 - 1T when Gear Down "auto").



So, this test is about CL17 - 2T (Gear-Down "disabled") vs CL17 - 1T (Gear-Down "auto").



Photos:



https://ibb.co/wrmdPkT



https://ibb.co/Q98FRSv







Thanks for the comment.



But, the temperature in the 1st line changes depending on the speed of the PCH fan. If it isn't temperature of PCH. What is that?

You still don't understand what I am telling you and you keep posting the same images.
You should play with the manual settings at another menu, as I have mentioned 2 times already.
I think it's under the AMD overclocking sub menu.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

 

[Speedster159]

Can anyone with a X570 Ultra or Master test something for me?

Can you plug in a SATA M.2 SSD on the third slot and see if SATA port 4 and 5 get's disabled? From what I've read it should but I want to confirm that.

EDIT: From what I've read a SATA M.2 should not disable the SATA ports but a PCI-E M.2 will.

 

[Filozofreyiz]

I set these options for manual overclocking on RAM. Isn't it enough?

https://ibb.co/4P2ZdxS

Profile options for my RAM on the SPD tab:

https://ibb.co/XtgmvLw

@Filozofreyiz, did you notice your SPD coded in says 3500 not 3600? You're setting 3600 (or 36.00) in the BIOS. That's a slight overclock and maybe causing your issues. It's not the "out of the box" XMP. Try seting to 35.00 and maybe all goes your way.

Yes, you are right. It shows as "3500" in SPD menu. But, XMP Profile 1 is showing as "3600" now and multiplier is "36" with "auto" settings. It used to be "3500" on XMP Profile 1 but now it is "3600". Weird. Lol.

By the way, I compared 18CL - 1T vs 17CL - 2T. 18CL - 1T is better than other. So, i left it as "auto".

Thanks for the answer.

 

[drmrlordx]

@GBT-MatthewH

Hello, I wanted to report back on some findings with my troubled AX200 wifi module that is bundled with the x570 Aorus Master. Hopefully other readers that have the same problem as I can gain some insight here.

If you will recall, I had had numerous problems with the AX200 driver detecting internal hardware errors during any significant network load while utilizing the 5 GHz band in 802.11ac mode, causing the driver to reset the NIC. This behavior persisted in all available drivers to one extent or another, including a driver provided to Windows Insider users only (21.40.0.1). That is my current driver as of this posting. On the advice of a poster on another forum, I tried changing the 5Ghz band channel on my router (Netgear 6300v2) to see if I could gain any stability. For some perspective, the default channel (157) and the one higher channel (161) on the 5 GHz band resulted in frequent NIC resets (stuttering/lag, sometimes coupled with complete failure of the NIC until disconnect/reconnect) and speeds of ~50 Mbps down/100 Mbps up. Pretty bad. Driver 21.30.0.2 was somewhat better with far superior speeds (340 Mbps up/down) but similarly laggy behavior thanks to frequent NIC resets.

Then I tried channel 44 using driver 21.40.0.1 (I have not tried it with 21.30.0.2 yet).

Channel 44 - and only channel 44 - caused the driver to stop reporting internal errors. No more NIC resets. Speeds have been as high as ~270 Mbps on a Steam download, so performance is much improved (but still inferior to what I've observed with driver 21.30.0.2 - this could be due to the channel I'm using). For now I'm content that my problem is solved . . . mostly.

I still can't figure out why changing the 5 GHz band channel on the router caused the driver to stop reporting internal hardware failures. That makes no sense.

 

[GBT-MatthewH]

Tried the latest update for my Elite and the IOMMU groups are TERRIBLE. Looks like anything after 4x has been a jumbled mess. Any work on separating the groups properly? Override patches are a massive security concern. The groups were amazing before.



Before: https://pastebin.com/YC5uzhxt
After: https://pastebin.com/hJvitKiG


This is actually a huge problem for the linux and power user community

IOMMU get messed up with the fix for WHEA errors... The current work around is to re-enable PCIe ACS, but I don't know if that works with the current BIOS. It did work on F6x. Wendell @ Level1 is working on this. You may want to checkout his channel/forums.

@GBT-MatthewH

Hello, I wanted to report back on some findings with my troubled AX200 wifi module that is bundled with the x570 Aorus Master. Hopefully other readers that have the same problem as I can gain some insight here.

If you will recall, I had had numerous problems with the AX200 driver detecting internal hardware errors during any significant network load while utilizing the 5 GHz band in 802.11ac mode, causing the driver to reset the NIC. This behavior persisted in all available drivers to one extent or another, including a driver provided to Windows Insider users only (21.40.0.1). That is my current driver as of this posting. On the advice of a poster on another forum, I tried changing the 5Ghz band channel on my router (Netgear 6300v2) to see if I could gain any stability. For some perspective, the default channel (157) and the one higher channel (161) on the 5 GHz band resulted in frequent NIC resets (stuttering/lag, sometimes coupled with complete failure of the NIC until disconnect/reconnect) and speeds of ~50 Mbps down/100 Mbps up. Pretty bad. Driver 21.30.0.2 was somewhat better with far superior speeds (340 Mbps up/down) but similarly laggy behavior thanks to frequent NIC resets.

Then I tried channel 44 using driver 21.40.0.1 (I have not tried it with 21.30.0.2 yet).

Channel 44 - and only channel 44 - caused the driver to stop reporting internal errors. No more NIC resets. Speeds have been as high as ~270 Mbps on a Steam download, so performance is much improved (but still inferior to what I've observed with driver 21.30.0.2 - this could be due to the channel I'm using). For now I'm content that my problem is solved . . . mostly.

I still can't figure out why changing the 5 GHz band channel on the router caused the driver to stop reporting internal hardware failures. That makes no sense.

I will pass it along, but you may want to open a ticket with Intel directly as well.

 

[JedixJarf]

FYI for anyone using the FTPM on the Auros boards

To get windows to actually be able to use your ftpm to encrypt your drives you need to do the following:

1) Enable the FTPM in the bios
2) Disable CSM in bios
3) Reboot to bios
4) Enable Secure Boot
5) Reboot and install Windows


This was a pain to figure out, as there is no documentation anywhere.

 

[mikew25]

Hi, I just got my Aorus Elite X570 motherboard and i'm running a 3700X.

Should I update the bios to the latest F5b?

I originally (1-2 days ago) seemed to be getting this WHEA error from my NVME SSD, though looking now nothing's being logged for it, so perhaps it's resolved itself...

One other issue that I'm getting, is that I seem to be unable to boot into Tails through a USB stick, (I set the USB stick to be the boot drive and went into the bios to boot directly from it) my PC just goes into a boot loop until the bios resets (there's no speaker for my case, so I have no idea what error codes it would be spitting out i'm afraid!).

Also if I could ask one more thing, does anyone have a good overclocking guide?

I've set my RAM to 3600MHz and Ryzen master to +100MHz auto overclock and that seems to work well, but optimising it would be fun.

Thanks for your help!