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Just like it says in the title. I've been reading NVMe's can get quite hot and that they begin to throttle at around 79c or so. How much of an issue is this in real life? I will be running mainly my OS on that drive and perhaps two or three games I need fast loading times for.
 
You might as well return your 970 then because for your use case an NVME is not going to be any faster than a drive using AHCI
Lots of tests have shown that for gaming NVME drives have exactly the same loading times as a drive using AHCI because of software limitations and Windows is not much better

Unless you got the drive really cheap it was pointless and you need to work with larger files and workloads before NVME actually becomes faster
 
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You might as well return your 970 then because for your use case an NVME is not going to be any faster than a drive using AHCI
Lots of tests have shown that for gaming NVME drives have exactly the same loading times as a drive using AHCI because of software limitations and Windows is not much better

Unless you got the drive really cheap it was pointless and you need to work with larger files and workloads before NVME actually becomes faster
So far I am finding a lot of conflicting information on whether there is a benefit or not with the majority seemingly leaning towards "not" worth it. Since I'f be using it mainly for Windows, it seems it is not worth it.
 
So far I am finding a lot of conflicting information on whether there is a benefit or not with the majority seemingly leaning towards "not" worth it. Since I'f be using it mainly for Windows, it seems it is not worth it.
NVME is good if you move a lot of large files around on your drive or if you do work or editing with large file sizes
If you where using Linux then it would be worth it but for Windows its not

Might as well get an MX500 or an 860 Evo and buy a bigger drive instead
 
Hi,
Depends on cooling and where m.2 slot is located whether it will need a heat sink or not.
Some next to ram slot which can get a little warm verify with hwinfo what your ram is running at temp wise.
Other m.2 might be under the second pci-e slot
Usually not a problem if not using sli.
 
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Hi,
Depends on cooling and where m.2 slot is located whether it will need a heat sink or not.
Some next to ram slot which can get a little warm verify with hwinfo what your ram is running at temp wise.
Other m.2 might be under the second pci-e slot
Usually not a problem if not using sli.
The M.2 slot is located right above the first PCIe slot. I'm guessing it should be fine considering I have pretty good airflow going on. I was just wondering if it's common for NVMe's to thermal throttle quickly and what factors I need to consider.
 
Mine is right next to the GPU on my board and the hottest I've seen it is 55c, usually it's 35 - 45c. Unless you have terrible airflow or really bad ambients, you're fine without.
 
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Sounds good. I think I might start a separate thread if the upgrade from a 840 Evo to a 970 Evo is worth it in terms of loading OS and a few select games.
 
Sounds good. I think I might start a separate thread if the upgrade from a 840 Evo to a 970 Evo is worth it in terms of loading OS and a few select games.
For gaming and OS its not but some will disagree and will religiously and fanatically defend NVME
Thats what marketing hype and specs on paper does to some people

A Crucial MX500 or a Samsung 850/860 is just as good and fast as a 960/970 when it comes to OS and gaming
 
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For gaming and OS its not but some will disagree and will religiously and fanatically defend NVME
Thats what marketing hype and specs on paper does to some people

A Crucial MX500 or a Samsung 850/860 Evo is just as good and fast as a 960/970 when it comes to OS and gaming
I have a distinct feeling you are correct on this. I did go ahead and start a different thread for that discussion though cuz I don't want to hijack and convolute my original topic. I further have the distinct feeling I may need to just pull the trigger and see for myself.

As for my original question, it seems a heatsink is only needed if you have a case with bad airflow and/ or if the NVMe drive is positioned in a location that gets hot.
 
Already posted in your new thread and the answer is the same
 
It most definitely is not worth it. No thread needed.
 
And I look to order next week heatsink for 970 EVO 1TB.
Off course I want to avoid EKWB Heatsink.

Someone used maybe Thermal Grizzly SSD Cooler?
Is there something else interesting or something better than others?
 

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And I look to order next week heatsink for 970 EVO 1TB.
Off course I want to avoid EKWB Heatsink.

Someone used maybe Thermal Grizzly SSD Cooler?
Is there something else interesting or something better than others?

Why are you wanting to avoid EKWB?

With that said, the Silverstone NVMe heatsink has better overall reviews. Not so much in the 5 star percentile, but less 3 and below star ratings.

EDIT: My bad, it is the other way around. The EKWB has the better overall reviews over the silverstone.
 
I will probably go with Aqua Computer KryoM.2 Heatsink.
No visible logos, it's aluminium, and thin, could fit on my motherboard because GPU is over M.2.

And it's nicest of all.
They make and for new RGB generations...
 

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I will probably go with Aqua Computer KryoM.2 Heatsink.
No visible logos, it's aluminium, and thin, could fit on my motherboard because GPU is over M.2.

And it's nicest of all.
They make and for new RGB generations...
That's a very nice heatsink, I like it over the EKWB because there is no visible logo.

I just installed the EKWB NVMe heatsink and my drive temps are 14C lower under load than without a heatsink. Did a before and after test. Both times I ran Asus GPU Burner along with Atto Disk Benchmark. Without the heatsink the drive got up to 81C. After installing he EKWB the drive temp topped out at 67. Ambient was at 69F in both tests.

I want to mention here for anyone who might be reading this, that the top side of the 970 is a bit uneven. EKWB supplies two different thermal pads for installation, the thicker one (1.0 mm) meant for the top and the thinner one (0.5 mm) meant for the bottom side of the drive. In order for the heatsink to make good contact, you will need to use both the 1mm and the .5mm on top. Use a small piece of the 0.5mm towards where the connector sits, and apply the 1mm pad to the rest of the drive. If you do not follow this method the heatsink will not make good even contact. The same principle would apply to the aforementioned Aqua Computer KryoM.2 Heatsink, since it uses the exact same installation mechanics as the EKWB, and any other heatsink I assume.

Some of the reviews for installing the EKWB mention this in regards to the 960 Evo, and the same principle applies to the 970.
 
installed an m.2 heatsink on a z170 board, black heatsink, very non-de script and came with thermal pads
dropped temps by 10 degrees
I would say it's worth it unless if it isn't already hidden behind your motherboard's PCH cover or if you got a DIMM.2 slot
 
noooo. Gigabyte's new idea or something. Seems like I've ran the pny forever and it's never been sinked....
 
You might as well return your 970 then because for your use case an NVME is not going to be any faster than a drive using AHCI
Lots of tests have shown that for gaming NVME drives have exactly the same loading times as a drive using AHCI because of software limitations and Windows is not much better

Unless you got the drive really cheap it was pointless and you need to work with larger files and workloads before NVME actually becomes faster
I realize this thread is a bit old, but I have to chime here to give my intake on my new 970 Pro, It might or might not help others, but I was wondering about the same thing prior so this could be useful.

First, I've been on windows 7 Pro I still have # of home network systems that will stay on win 7, but my main system I decided to upgrade to windows 10 Pro. I have to admit, I am in some ways impressed I was so opposed to windows 10 when it first came out, but Its been a while and MS have change few things and Pro adds few options that I use so that's were Pro shines for me.

Anyhow, at first I have installed new win10 on my Samsung 860 Pro and after some cleaning and slimming of unnecessary apps and other bloatware I found windows 10 to run nice and smooth but I've always want it to install OS on NVME and my x99 E-WS 10G has M.2 slot, but I didn't want to bother with separate drivers on windows 7 so I left OS on 860.

Now, since I upgraded to Win 10 I thought I should upgrade to NVME as well, but hearing here and there that there is no really difference as far is even booting I was reluctant, but ultimately decided to get 970 Pro anyways.

Here is my experience so far.. my boot time is the same as to expect from workstation board, It loads differently from gaming board, on top of that, there is 16 mechanical drives and 2 860 SSD's so it takes a bit to load, but, and this is not my illusion, it's very noticeable, my system reaction on opening application is much snappier and there is no comparing I can tell the difference right away, also, my browsing and opening websites is freakishly faster very noticeable I don't know why that effected my browsing but overall I am very happy so It was very beneficial in my case.

To ad I use Hyper-V and going from 860 Pro to 970 Pro there is real difference not only loading time, but also responsiveness, It almost feels like on physical machine and as many of you know how VM can get sluggish, so great improvement.
 
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