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Hi,
lol get a 4tb then :p
 
damn, would'a completely overhauled my SATA section.


my drives are so old that the first 1tb was north of $500.
 
Haha, 4tb is at least getting closer but still smaller than I'd prefer

Ideally I'd love to see SSDs at least get close to half the capacity of the spinning rust drives.
 
Hi,
I keep my data drives down to 1-2tb anyway to reduce loss butthurt.
Bigger they are the harder they fall when they die.
 
damn, would'a completely overhauled my SATA section.


my drives are so old that the first 1tb was north of $500.
LOL on my first custom PC build back in 2009 I had 2x G-Skill SLC SSDs 32GB that were $400 each. talk about paying through the nose for new tech!

I too would like to see 4tb or higher on NVMe or SATA SSDs. I picked up 2x 6TB Caviar Blacks for old(er) games/storage on my X299 build even though I have 4TB RAID-0 NVMe SSD (2x 2TB) for my main games/programs drive (excluding the 1TB OS NVME).
 
damn! you've definitely got me beat.

my first drive was an OCZ for $2 a GB.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
1. Percentage values are completely useless in this case.
2. Use case limited to moving a single file (I'm skipping the Firestrike/Geekbench nonsense) is laughable.


It's not a review, it's a first look.
I am glad you are entertained :rolleyes:

Hi,
Only benchmark that would show any advantage is performance test 9 or 10 disk score would get a hefty bump or any disk score in general
Otherwise net gain zero on any other benchmarks m.2's are nearly not worth messing with over 2.5" ssd's which operate much cooler and frankly now days are a steal :)
Yes, this is exactly what I've seen too! I put those tests in there to show that hard drive speed simply doesn't matter for benching, except a few rare instances such as PC Mark.
 
Hi,
For the few benchmarks on a 2.5" ssd one could use ram disk features instead and get bumps near the same with ddr4 memory.
 
I have seen a drastic difference in 2 areas with my New PCIe Gen4 NVME.

My Boot time went from 17 seconds to 9 seconds
Moving or Transferring Files, Data and etc. are MUCH MUCH Faster!

What I have NOT seen a difference on is the time it takes to open apps, games and etc. I also do not see any speed increase in those apps and games actually functioning.

The attached pic shows my Corsair MP600 1TB at all stock BIOS settings and also the NVME on the very 1st Firmware. I just updated to the Newer Firmware but have not re-tested it yet.

In CONCLUSION... there is definitely a difference in the Real World use of the drive but maybe not in the areas that you might think such as games/apps and etc. opening or running faster.
I transfer Terabytes of data at a time and this is where the PCIe Gen4 really shines in my opinion.
 

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I am glad you are entertained :rolleyes:


Yes, this is exactly what I've seen too! I put those tests in there to show that hard drive speed simply doesn't matter for benching, except a few rare instances such as PC Mark.

Want some inspiration for some more professional review? Try getting inspired by this https://www.purepc.pl/pamieci_masow...ci_masowe/test_dysku_ssd_patriot_viper_vp4100_nvme_pcie_40_znow_uderza?page=0,3


Headers translation:
Small files copying (20GB, 60 000 JPG files)
average files copying (30GB, 2 MKV movies)
large files copying (40GB, 7-zip archive)
Unpacking archive
file consistency test
opening graphical project
level loading in a game
software installing time
multitasking (installing + copying)
80% fill tests


Seriously, your graphs are useless when there is no numeric data at all. There is literally no usage test whatsoever except for the file transfer. Unless this is a paid review made to create a wave of "wooooooah" - what you've shown provides nothing except for a fact that that disc overheats.
 
i feel bad for anyone that expected performance increases in gaming/apps via SATA >> NVME upgrade paths. you were lied to.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
I have seen a drastic difference in 2 areas with my New PCIe Gen4 NVME.

My Boot time went from 17 seconds to 9 seconds
Moving or Transferring Files, Data and etc. are MUCH MUCH Faster!

What I have NOT seen a difference on is the time it takes to open apps, games and etc. I also do not see any speed increase in those apps and games actually functioning.

The attached pic shows my Corsair MP600 1TB at all stock BIOS settings and also the NVME on the very 1st Firmware. I just updated to the Newer Firmware but have not re-tested it yet.

In CONCLUSION... there is definitely a difference in the Real World use of the drive but maybe not in the areas that you might think such as games/apps and etc. opening or running faster.
I transfer Terabytes of data at a time and this is where the PCIe Gen4 really shines in my opinion.

Good info, thanks +1! Your conclusion parallels mine nicely.
 
These drives would be perfect as cache drives to speed up all the slow HDDs(6x10tb) in have in my system. These might be useless for games and applications but it can make a huge difference if used correctly.
 
Hi,
I keep my data drives down to 1-2tb anyway to reduce loss butthurt.
Bigger they are the harder they fall when they die.
If you only have 1-3 drives, that's understandable...

Just have to have a good back-up and redundancy process in place and that kind of goes away.

I'll never lose more than a few hours of data and even then, I'd have to have 6 drives fail in that time span.
 
i feel bad for anyone that expected performance increases in gaming/apps via SATA >> NVME upgrade paths. you were lied to.
Hi,
I really didn't and knew there wasn't much if any difference
Benchmarking with others pretty much sums up where it does make a difference and where it doesn't.

As said biggest difference is one having cables and the other doesn't.
 
Hi,
I really didn't and knew there wasn't much if any difference
Benchmarking with others pretty much sums up where it does make a difference and where it doesn't.

As said biggest difference is one having cables and the other doesn't.
Biggest difference is a actually Boot Times and Transferring Data. HUGE difference when transferring/moving data.
 
My optane 900p boots faster as well. And reloading saves from within a game also seems faster. And the system feels a little snappier, maybe, hard to really nail down. For comparison I've got os installed on similar pc's on a 970 evo, 850 evo, 840evo and ROG RAIDR. The 850 and 840 evos bench higher than these pcie4s and my optane due to rapid mode and also feel snappier than with it disabled. The 970 evo can't do rapid so it is the slowest. At least the RAIDR looks fancy. There really isn't that big of a difference between them.
 
" Once out of the package we get an immediate feeling of quality. Although it’s seemingly a naked SSD, it does have some weight to it."


Yet it's a blue pcb with a black sticker on. If they were going for quality that PCB would be black.


For me it looks like something from eBay or Amazon / China I'm afraid :S


I would have been hoping for more than 5,000 MB/sec too as my current M.2 is 3,500 MB/sec.

Yeah it's quite a bit faster (3x than a standard SSD compared to mine) but for the new PCI-E 4 I was expecting a lot faster than this.
 
You need to fix your graphs. They are percentages and yet they are supposed to be seconds. Also, how did you hear torture test it exactly? I have a much different experience with it.
 
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