(Gigabyte X570 AORUS Owners Thread)

matthew87 · Feb 12, 2020

Mathelo said:
Given some of the comments here, it sounds like I maybe shouldn't have bought the Gigabyte X570 Master that I just received. It is still in the box. Should I return it?

I'm not likely to do much in the way of overclocking I just like solid hardware that will last me for a long time and can be used through multiple CPU upgrades.

If I return it, what does this group recommend as a comparable replacement without these issues?

Thanks!

Louis

My opinion coming from 10+ years of only high end Asus boards (Crosshairs, etc) to the Gigabyte X570 Master:

1. Gigabyte's BIOS GUI is absolute rubbish, an intuitive mess.
2. Despite the rubbish GUI, the BIOS has all the features and functionality i'd expect from a high end enthusiast grade board
3. No more or less BIOS bugs and issues than Asus
4. The board's build quality is exceptional, well designed and quality components all over.

Mathelo · Feb 12, 2020

matthew87 said:
My opinion coming from 10+ years of only high end Asus boards (Crosshairs, etc) to the Gigabyte X570 Master:

1. Gigabyte's BIOS GUI is absolute rubbish, an intuitive mess.
2. Despite the rubbish GUI, the BIOS has all the features and functionality i'd expect from a high end enthusiast grade board
3. No more or less BIOS bugs and issues than Asus
4. The board's build quality is exceptional, well designed and quality components all over.

Thanks. Sounds like it will be ok for me. I won't be spending that much time in the bios.

tien113 · Feb 12, 2020

Cata79 said:
The lag in Bios is unbearable when setting fans, even with csm enabled now. Those incompetents at GB test their ****? I really am sorry for choosing GB, the hardware is good, the BIOS is the worst POS I ever saw.

you have the same situation as me. I regret to choose gigabyte instead of asus. luckily, I returned and bought c8hw, very satisfy with c8hw.

Cata79 said:
I know. I'm too lazy to remount everything, otherwise I would sell this mobo tomorrow.

sell it please, it cant be fixed.

Mathelo said:
Given some of the comments here, it sounds like I maybe shouldn't have bought the Gigabyte X570 Master that I just received. It is still in the box. Should I return it?

I'm not likely to do much in the way of overclocking I just like solid hardware that will last me for a long time and can be used through multiple CPU upgrades.

If I return it, what does this group recommend as a comparable replacement without these issues?

Thanks!

Louis

you should return it asap, this motherboard is so expensive but trash.

Moparman · Feb 12, 2020

tien113 said:
you have the same situation as me. I regret to choose gigabyte instead of asus. luckily, I returned and bought c8hw, very satisfy with c8hw.

sell it please, it cant be fixed.

you should return it asap, this motherboard is so expensive but trash.

Why are you trolling this thread??? That is not welcome here nor wanted. Issues or not at least Gigabyte can offer real support unlike the trash company that Asus is.

Praetorr · Feb 12, 2020

If I can chime in as someone who had a Gigabyte X370 K7, and then I upgraded to an Asus X470 C7H. Then, later, I built a 3600X system for my brother with a Gigabyte X570 Pro WiFi.

I do think that generally speaking Asus' BIOS support is better, and I think that this shows up particularly when overclocking. That said, Asus has their fair share of issues, let me tell you. Those of us on the Asus Crosshair boards can tell you all about issues with fans literally stopping altogether when running any kind of temperature monitoring software. You can imagine how, if someone didn't realize their fans had all stopped spinning for an extended period of time, this could even be potentially harmful to the system. This issue seems to have been fixed in the last few BIOS revisions, but it took them months and months to fix it, and even after fixing it in the past it reemerged and had to be re-fixed fairly recently.

In summary, all board manufacturers have shoddy support, IMHO. I don't think any of them have really passionate BIOS teams. They do the bare minimum to keep the customers from rioting, and that's about it. If you ask me, Gigabyte and Asus are both good. You just have to find the right hardware config and BIOS that works best for you. There's always going to be buggy BIOS revisions that you have to skip. Just my 2 cents.

matthew87 · Feb 12, 2020

Praetorr said:
If I can chime in as someone who had a Gigabyte X370 K7, and then I upgraded to an Asus X470 C7H. Then, later, I built a 3600X system for my brother with a Gigabyte X570 Pro WiFi.

I do think that generally speaking Asus' BIOS support is better, and I think that this shows up particularly when overclocking. That said, Asus has their fair share of issues, let me tell you. Those of us on the Asus Crosshair boards can tell you all about issues with fans literally stopping altogether when running any kind of temperature monitoring software. You can imagine how, if someone didn't realize their fans had all stopped spinning for an extended period of time, this could even be potentially harmful to the system. This issue seems to have been fixed in the last few BIOS revisions, but it took them months and months to fix it, and even after fixing it in the past it reemerged and had to be re-fixed fairly recently.

In summary, all board manufacturers have shoddy support, IMHO. I don't think any of them have really passionate BIOS teams. They do the bare minimum to keep the customers from rioting, and that's about it. If you ask me, Gigabyte and Asus are both good. You just have to find the right hardware config and BIOS that works best for you. There's always going to be buggy BIOS revisions that you have to skip. Just my 2 cents.

Yep

Or the other great one with the Asus X370 C6H where it's I/O controller was so crap that it was literally useless. It was renowned for wildly inaccurate voltage readings to the point it's sensitivity could be out by as much as something like 75mw. Set your CPU to 1.30v in BIOS and the IO sensor could report anywhere from 1.225-1.315v. And to top it all off some boards would under report while others over. Even Asus' reps conceded it was physical issue to do with the cheap and nasty IO controller they put on the board.

Medizinmann · Feb 12, 2020

tien113 said:
Thank you for letting me know samsung 980 pro will be on the market soon. I am waiting for this nvme very long time.

Both Samsung and Sabrent has 5 years warranty so I think the reliability is almost the same.

Aehm...:thinking:no...

Intels 660p has also 5 years of warranty - and they die fast - you will get a new one - but there is a chance that your most recent data is lost and all the hassel..so no.

I wouldn't say that the Sabrent is as bad as Intels low budget QLC drives – but it is most probably nowhere near a Samsung Pro drive!

Greetings,
Medizinmann

tien113 · Feb 12, 2020

Medizinmann said:
Aehm...:thinking:no...

Intels 660p has also 5 years of warranty - and they die fast - you will get a new one - but there is a chance that your most recent data is lost and all the hassel..so no.

I wouldn't say that the Sabrent is as bad as Intels low budget QLC drives – but it is most probably nowhere near a Samsung Pro drive!

Greetings,
Medizinmann

Sabrent uses TLC and Samsung uses MLC. I know what you are talking about.

QLC is really bad.

Moparman said:
Why are you trolling this thread??? That is not welcome here nor wanted. Issues or not at least Gigabyte can offer real support unlike the trash company that Asus is.

good products don't need support. I don't blame gigabyte, just share my experience about this master which made me disappointed a lot.

pschorr1123 · Feb 12, 2020

tien113 said:
you have the same situation as me. I regret to choose gigabyte instead of asus. luckily, I returned and bought c8hw, very satisfy with c8hw.

sell it please, it cant be fixed.

you should return it asap, this motherboard is so expensive but trash.

CPU Over Temperature error - how to fix this problem? my cpu didn't reach to 85oC.

when I change cpu power duty control to extreme and ignore the cpu temperature monitor. my pc sleep and auto wake. how can I fix it?
Last edited by tien113; 02-12-2020 at 04:26 AM.

post 2124 at https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...ds/1728796-asus-rog-x570-crosshair-viii-overclocking-discussion-thread-213.html

I see your CH VIII can't be too much better than the Master was as you are still having the same issues.

I still feel your wake immediately after sleep is a Win 10 issue that can be resolved by setting the proper power management settings in Windows

follow guide here:https://windowsreport.com/windows-8-windows-10-wakes-sleep-fix/

I have to do this BS every fresh Win 10 install

Medizinmann · Feb 12, 2020

tien113 said:
Sabrent uses TLC and Samsung uses MLC. I know what you are talking about.

QLC is really bad.

That is why I would say - depending on his use case it might be a good idea to stick to a Samsung PRO drive...again - to be sure we need to know more about his use case - but until now - he isn't telling us more.

good products don't need support. I don't blame gigabyte, just share my experience about this master which made me disappointed a lot.

Well in your way of sharing - you are generalizing a little bit too much - like "the Aorus master is just crap because it didn't work for me"...
Many people use the Aorus Master and most of them don't have a lot of issues…

I am building my own machines for 25 years now - with a big gap for the last 10 years I must admit - and I can say I am pretty happy with the build quality of Gigabyte.

I had BIOSes that where better and had some that where worse.
I used Gigabyte, Asus, Elitegroup, MSI and ASrock.
So far I had my ups and downs with Gigabyte vs. Asus - and had very good experiences with Asus and some that where not as good…

I bought a Aorus Xtreme because of it's features (10G LAN + passive Cooling + 3 M.2 Slots) and availability - and I am pretty happy with it. Works for me.

:thumb:

Greetings,
Medizinmann

tien113 · Feb 12, 2020

Moparman said:
Why are you trolling this thread??? That is not welcome here nor wanted. Issues or not at least Gigabyte can offer real support unlike the trash company that Asus is.

Praetorr said:
If I can chime in as someone who had a Gigabyte X370 K7, and then I upgraded to an Asus X470 C7H. Then, later, I built a 3600X system for my brother with a Gigabyte X570 Pro WiFi.

I do think that generally speaking Asus' BIOS support is better, and I think that this shows up particularly when overclocking. That said, Asus has their fair share of issues, let me tell you. Those of us on the Asus Crosshair boards can tell you all about issues with fans literally stopping altogether when running any kind of temperature monitoring software. You can imagine how, if someone didn't realize their fans had all stopped spinning for an extended period of time, this could even be potentially harmful to the system. This issue seems to have been fixed in the last few BIOS revisions, but it took them months and months to fix it, and even after fixing it in the past it reemerged and had to be re-fixed fairly recently.

In summary, all board manufacturers have shoddy support, IMHO. I don't think any of them have really passionate BIOS teams. They do the bare minimum to keep the customers from rioting, and that's about it. If you ask me, Gigabyte and Asus are both good. You just have to find the right hardware config and BIOS that works best for you. There's always going to be buggy BIOS revisions that you have to skip. Just my 2 cents.

pschorr1123 said:
CPU Over Temperature error - how to fix this problem? my cpu didn't reach to 85oC.

when I change cpu power duty control to extreme and ignore the cpu temperature monitor. my pc sleep and auto wake. how can I fix it?
Last edited by tien113; 02-12-2020 at 04:26 AM.

post 2124 at https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...ds/1728796-asus-rog-x570-crosshair-viii-overclocking-discussion-thread-213.html

I see your CH VIII can't be too much better than the Master was as you are still having the same issues.

I still feel your wake immediately after sleep is a Win 10 issue that can be resolved by setting the proper power management settings in Windows

follow guide here:https://windowsreport.com/windows-8-windows-10-wakes-sleep-fix/

I have to do this BS every fresh Win 10 install

I have no issue in normal condition. no more bios reset or sleep issue.

I have issue because I want to modify something. not because of stupid board.

Medizinmann said:
Well in your way of sharing - you are generalizing a little bit too much - like "the Aorus master is just crap because it didn't work for me"...
Many people use the Aorus Master and most of them don't have a lot of issues…

I am building my own machines for 25 years now - with a big gap for the last 10 years I must admit - and I can say I am pretty happy with the build quality of Gigabyte.

I had BIOSes that where better and had some that where worse.
I used Gigabyte, Asus, Elitegroup, MSI and ASrock.
So far I had my ups and downs with Gigabyte vs. Asus - and had very good experiences with Asus and some that where not as good…

I bought a Aorus Xtreme because of it's features (10G LAN + passive Cooling + 3 M.2 Slots) and availability - and I am pretty happy with it. Works for me. :thumb:

Greetings,
Medizinmann

sorry because I didn't clarify about my problem. I still like gigabyte hardware, it's better than asus (master > c8hw) but the bios which I can't stay with.

Waltc · Feb 12, 2020

Mathelo said:
Thanks. Sounds like it will be ok for me. I won't be spending that much time in the bios.

I don't have a slow bios. Now running F12b. The bios is fine, all the functionality you expect or need is there. Whenever I flash the bios, I never load optimal defaults, I always set up everything manually. Takes less than a minute, including the reboot needed for secure boot. I do it this way to check if new settings have been added to the new bios I've just installed. I think that it is the best x570 mboard available in its price range--if not *the* best x570 mboard. Bang for the buck is the best. If you use phones, the x570 Master's three hardware components for sound are simply the best I've ever heard from any motherboard--far better than what you get on an MSI $700 Godlike mboard, for instance (MSI uses the same sound components on the Godlike as it uses on a ~$190 x470 MSI mboard.)

Advice that has worked well for me over many years: Don't take the advice of anonymous people you don't know on the Internet about whether a certain product is "good" or not--unless everyone alive, including reviewers, all say the product is flawed in some way. In that case, leave it alone. But that is nowhere near the case for the x570 Master. Buy the product yourself--as you've done--test it yourself and make up your own mind from actual experience with the product--puts you way ahead of the game. Some of the best products I've ever owned turned out to be the products some people told me were terrible, and some of the worst products I've purchased came by recommendation of people who told me they were great...

Truth.

Let me give you a "for instance:" What's the best way to adjust the fan profile for the x570 Master? A little Windows program that comes with your x570 mboard, free from Gigabyte, called SIV. I set my fan profile there, and ignore it in the bios. I highly advise that route.

Whatever you decide, good luck to you...

pschorr1123 · Feb 12, 2020

tien113 said:
I have no issue in normal condition. no more bios reset or sleep issue.

I have issue because I want to modify something. not because of stupid board.

sorry because I didn't clarify about my problem. I still like gigabyte hardware, it's better than asus (master > c8hw) but the bios which I can't stay with.

Changing the VRM cycle frequency will not cause your board to wake from sleep.

You asked similar question in this thread about pc waking from sleep on its own.

I think that perhaps your sleep issue on the CH VIII popped up after you changed something in bios and you just figure that must have something to do with it but I can assure you it is not.

Your sleep issue is totally separate from the vrm cycle duty being changed or from your pc shutting down because it said CPU thermal limit reached.

I have seen people complain in the ASUS threads about their fans stopping for no reason. PLEASE be sure that your bios version does not have this bug and be sure to use fan monitoring software so that your system will not overheat due to fans being stopped

You do have a point about Asus bios having better layout and at the end of the day it all comes down to personal choice. But you shouldn't advise people here to dump their Master based on your preference. Also note that ASUS bios quality control has gone out the window since Emor left last year.

tldr: your sleep issue is separate from any other issues and should be researched independently to get resolved also monitor your fans to ensure that you don't suffer from the fans stopping bug

Samuel25 · Feb 12, 2020

So my LAN Adapter was just frozen again after a cold boot (see Post 6072).
Im on the newest Bios and drivers and disabled Fast Boot in Windows.
I guess its really a hardware issue then and try to contact gigabyte/ the seller.

pschorr1123 · Feb 12, 2020

Samuel25 said:
So my LAN Adapter was just frozen again after a cold boot (see Post 6072).
Im on the newest Bios and drivers and disabled Fast Boot in Windows.
I guess its really a hardware issue then and try to contact gigabyte/ the seller.

Did it work well on an earlier bios?

Also another thing to try before ripping down your entire build to rma is to completely uninstall the NIC via Device Manager unplug from Internet ( or Windows will load a different driver at next boot) restart pc then install latest driver from Intel

probably won't solve your issue but it's at least worth a try. GB support will probably tell you to do same thing.

Really sucks as the NIC is integrated and can't be easily replaced

EDIT: Forgot to ask if you did a clean Windows install when you built this system. If using OS from older build that may cause very weird issues and will be hard to diagnose

Samuel25 · Feb 12, 2020

pschorr1123 said:
Did it work well on an earlier bios?

Also another thing to try before ripping down your entire build to rma is to completely uninstall the NIC via Device Manager unplug from Internet ( or Windows will load a different driver at next boot) restart pc then install latest driver from Intel

probably won't solve your issue but it's at least worth a try. GB support will probably tell you to do same thing.

Really sucks as the NIC is integrated and can't be easily replaced

EDIT: Forgot to ask if you did a clean Windows install when you built this system. If using OS from older build that may cause very weird issues and will be hard to diagnose

Yep, that was actually the first thing i tried, same issue with the standard windows driver.
Also did a clean windows 10 install when i upgraded to this Board+CPU.
I definitely had this issue with F10 aswell, but im not 100% sure with the older ones since I jumped to F10 a few weeks after i got the board.

pschorr1123 · Feb 12, 2020

Samuel25 said:
Yep, that was actually the first thing i tried, same issue with the standard windows driver.
Also did a clean windows 10 install when i upgraded to this Board+CPU.
I definitely had this issue with F10 aswell, but im not 100% sure with the older ones since I jumped to F10 a few weeks after i got the board.

That sucks.

Your best bet would be to go for the RMA then.

tien113 · Feb 12, 2020

pschorr1123 said:
Changing the VRM cycle frequency will not cause your board to wake from sleep.

You asked similar question in this thread about pc waking from sleep on its own.

I think that perhaps your sleep issue on the CH VIII popped up after you changed something in bios and you just figure that must have something to do with it but I can assure you it is not.

Your sleep issue is totally separate from the vrm cycle duty being changed or from your pc shutting down because it said CPU thermal limit reached.

I have seen people complain in the ASUS threads about their fans stopping for no reason. PLEASE be sure that your bios version does not have this bug and be sure to use fan monitoring software so that your system will not overheat due to fans being stopped

You do have a point about Asus bios having better layout and at the end of the day it all comes down to personal choice. But you shouldn't advise people here to dump their Master based on your preference. Also note that ASUS bios quality control has gone out the window since Emor left last year.

tldr: your sleep issue is separate from any other issues and should be researched independently to get resolved also monitor your fans to ensure that you don't suffer from the fans stopping bug

I don't have any problem with the FAN stopped.

I don't care about asus bios have better layout or not. it doesn't matter.

the problem happen yesterday. I am running at 4.2ghz with 3950x smoothly (no sleep issue). but I want to push it more so I try do increase it to 4.3ghz.

I went to windows, run cinebench R20 and check the temperature in hwinfo. I saw temperature is ok but when I started the cinebench R20, my computer rebooted and it says my vrm is overheat which it was not.

I followed the guide on the internet and I changed cpu power duty control to extreme (which prevent the wrong info vrm from the motherboard). Now, I ran cinebench R20 again and the motherboard said my cpu is overheat which it was not.

I tried to ignore cpu temperature monitor in the bios and my computer ran cinebench smoothly but at the night, the sleep issue happened. So I have to change everything back to 4.2ghz without modify cpu power duty control and ignore cpu temperature monitor, the sleep issue was gone.

That's what I want to understand why the sleep issue happen when I changed those functions.

anyone have experience on this?

Dragonber 1 · Feb 12, 2020

Samuel25 said:
So my LAN Adapter was just frozen again after a cold boot (see Post 6072).
Im on the newest Bios and drivers and disabled Fast Boot in Windows.
I guess its really a hardware issue then and try to contact gigabyte/ the seller.

Try disabling ERP mode. The WiFi adapter on my X570 Ultra isn’t detected after a cold boot with it enabled. The same has happened with an X570 ITX owned by my brother so it is definitely a bios bug.

GamerKingFaiz · Feb 13, 2020

Does anyone have a good guide/walkthrough for overclocking RAM on a AORUS X570 Ultimate?

I've tried 3 times now and all have them ended with no post and having to clear the CMOS.

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