[Nizzen]

ok guys don't buy the EK
 QuantumX Delta TEC Water Block

works great for a modest overclock... but anything serious, say a 10850k at 5.0 trying to run cinebench will overload the TEC... damn... had such high hopes for this thing. gaming it will run 5.1 keeping temps at 50c and 20c with no load but if you run a benchmark or stress test it proves too much for the peltier.

This is not news

Running direct die cooled 10900k, and temps is under 50c in most games

 

[Aurosonic]

I have both the aircooled aorus xtreme and the waterforce wb, I haven't had to mess with them because I've had to work a lot lately. I wanted to ask if you think it's worth it to shunt mod the waterforce for anything other than benchmarks scores. As I could just go with 450w out the box with the aircooled one

It's definitely worth it. Without shunting i wasn't able to play Cyberpunk even at 2100/0.950 cuz it drops frequencies to 2025-2010 due to 350W limit. After the shunt i'm able to play Cyberpunk at 2175/1.068 steady without any gpu frequency drops. Same for other games. Metro - Exodus with RTX on, DLSS off is the most demanding game i've met so far. It easily eats 350w even at 1935/0.862v. After the shunt i was able to run it at 2100/1.006v without frequency drops.

 

[MikeGR7]

ok guys don't buy the EK
 QuantumX Delta TEC Water Block

works great for a modest overclock... but anything serious, say a 10850k at 5.0 trying to run cinebench will overload the TEC... damn... had such high hopes for this thing. gaming it will run 5.1 keeping temps at 50c and 20c with no load but if you run a benchmark or stress test it proves too much for the peltier.

Something is not right with your setup man, it has been demonstrated to hit 5.6 under load no problem.
What is your watercooling setup for managing the TEC??

 

[MikeGR7]

This is not news

Running direct die cooled 10900k, and temps is under 50c in most games

I am interested in your setup 😋

Can you please give me more details how to direct die cool a 10900K??

Thank you

 

[MikeGR7]

Guys, anyone tried to flash a 3 pin card with a 2 pin bios and have results??

Someone said the card may glich and tricked to draw more power?

I have MSI Trio and although i'm grateful for 450w strix bios, i think my card can push even more.

I'm watercooled btw.

Soooo anyone???

 

[ssgwright]

Something is not right with your setup man, it has been demonstrated to hit 5.6 under load no problem.
What is your watercooling setup for managing the TEC??

it was not demonstrated, I watched d8euar or whatever his name is from Germany and he could run only 2 cores at 5.8 but he never really showed any benchmarks or stress tests.. well he did but only briefly, I can run cinebench at 5.2 but the temps slowly creep up, then right towards the end of the first run it'll reach over 100c. The heat just overwhelms the peltier... I have a 480 and a 360 rad in my loop. Before, I was stable in cinebench at 5.2 with avx offset at 0 temps barely hit 85c with my old block.

 

[acoustic]

it was not demonstrated, I watched d8euar or whatever his name is from Germany and he could run only 2 cores at 5.8 but he never really showed any benchmarks or stress tests.. well he did but only briefly, I can run cinebench at 5.2 but the temps slowly creep up, then right towards the end of the first run it'll reach over 100c. The heat just overwhelms the peltier... I have a 480 and a 360 rad in my loop. Before, I was stable in cinebench at 5.2 with avx offset at 0 temps barely hit 85c with my old block.

D8rbauer does do a video with the TEK and shows it struggles at high power-draws on a Ryzen. He was seeing instability with Cinebench and other workloads (especially AVX), thought it did keep things cool during gaming. It sounds like a great idea, but considering the power-draw of the unit itself, I'm not very impressed.

 

[MikeGR7]

D8rbauer does do a video with the TEK and shows it struggles at high power-draws on a Ryzen. He was seeing instability with Cinebench and other workloads (especially AVX), thought it did keep things cool during gaming. It sounds like a great idea, but considering the power-draw of the unit itself, I'm not very impressed.

Well it is not designed for Ryzen so a meh result seems appropriate.
On the contrary, meh result on Intel is really inappropriate because of the 350+ euro price...

it was not demonstrated, I watched d8euar or whatever his name is from Germany and he could run only 2 cores at 5.8 but he never really showed any benchmarks or stress tests.. well he did but only briefly, I can run cinebench at 5.2 but the temps slowly creep up, then right towards the end of the first run it'll reach over 100c. The heat just overwhelms the peltier... I have a 480 and a 360 rad in my loop. Before, I was stable in cinebench at 5.2 with avx offset at 0 temps barely hit 85c with my old block.

I have to agree with you this time, i rewatched his video and the guy literally skipped the multi threaded run of Cinebench...
Smart thing he did there, first run the single threaded test showing all cores at 5.6 and temps @40s and then fast skip the stronger test leaving us with the impression that it performed similarly....
I am genuinely disappointed because i was interested in this product.
I thank you for sharing your results.

 

[ssgwright]

D8rbauer does do a video with the TEK and shows it struggles at high power-draws on a Ryzen. He was seeing instability with Cinebench and other workloads (especially AVX), thought it did keep things cool during gaming. It sounds like a great idea, but considering the power-draw of the unit itself, I'm not very impressed.

ya it doesn't even compare to my block at high workloads, but you can game at crazy fast mhz... I guess if you set it up right to boost to a certain mhz in games and lower mhz for high workloads it could be worth it for the extra fps. It was fun to play with, gonna sell for $300 if anyone wants it update, it sold

 

[SPL Tech]

ya it doesn't even compare to my block at high workloads, but you can game at crazy fast mhz... I guess if you set it up right to boost to a certain mhz in games and lower mhz for high workloads it could be worth it for the extra fps. It was fun to play with, gonna sell for $300 if anyone wants it update, it sold

Hey, you take your dirty CPU moding mouth out of here with that. This is for GPUs, not CPUs. CPUs are lame. GPUs are what the people want.

 

[CantingSoup]

Anyone have experience with the ELSA 3080 ERAZOR X Cold War Edition? Is it a reference card?

 

[ssgwright]

Anyone have experience with the ELSA 3080 ERAZOR X Cold War Edition? Is it a reference card?

never even hear of that card

 

[CantingSoup]

never even hear of that card

It’s a Japanese brand: Amazon.co.jp: ELSA GeForce RTX 3080 ERAZOR X Graphics Board GD3080-10GEREZX VD7432: Computers & Peripherals

 

[ssgwright]

It’s a Japanese brand: Amazon.co.jp: ELSA GeForce RTX 3080 ERAZOR X Graphics Board GD3080-10GEREZX VD7432: Computers & Peripherals

looks like a 3 pin card? if it is you should flash the bios to strix or ftw3

 

[CantingSoup]

looks like a 3 pin card? if it is you should flash the bios to strix or ftw3

It’s a 2 pin. I haven’t actually bought the card yet. I’m trying to see if anyone has a picture of the PCB.

 

[monitorhero]

Hey guys,

I have a question. In MSI Afterburner you have a Frequency Curve. Is it different on every model or should the max clocks be the same on one brand of cards?
I have an ASUS TUF 3080 OC and my frequency curve maxes out at 1950mhz. Another guy's frequency curve goes to 2010mhz with same Bios and same card. Is this an indication if you got a good or bad chip?

 

[ZAlien]

Hi guys. What would be yours best 3080 recommendation? I'm currently aiming for Strix OC (waiting for it to show up at stores) mainly because of quality of the components used on that card. But is that the best choice, is there something better I'm missing?

 

[ssgwright]

Hey guys,

I have a question. In MSI Afterburner you have a Frequency Curve. Is it different on every model or should the max clocks be the same on one brand of cards?
I have an ASUS TUF 3080 OC and my frequency curve maxes out at 1950mhz. Another guy's frequency curve goes to 2010mhz with same Bios and same card. Is this an indication if you got a good or bad chip?

no that has nothing to do with it... if they are the same card they both should have the same curve. If you add to the core clock the whole curve goes up across the board. What really matters is what mhz you can get stable while gaming

 

[monitorhero]

no that has nothing to do with it... if they are the same card they both should have the same curve. If you add to the core clock the whole curve goes up across the board. What really matters is what mhz you can get stable while gaming

Both cards run at stock settings. It is really weird. I also flashed from Bios 94.02.26.48.40 to x.x.x.x.65 but the card got hotter. So I used my saved file and flashed it back to the original bios.
But now I get two different readings in CPU-Z

Original Bios

After Flashback to the same Bios Version. Notice how Pixel Fillrate and Texture Fillrate and GPU Clock changed to lower numbers? What is going on here?

 

[Falkentyne]

Both cards run at stock settings. It is really weird. I also flashed from Bios 94.02.26.48.40 to x.x.x.x.65 but the card got hotter. So I used my saved file and flashed it back to the original bios.
But now I get two different readings in CPU-Z

Original Bios
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After Flashback to the same Bios Version. Notice how Pixel Fillrate and Texture Fillrate and GPU Clock changed to lower numbers? What is going on here?
View attachment 2472213

You were overclocking when you took the screenshot on your original bios.
That's called an "Oops" moment.

Also the reason you ran hotter on the new vbios is because Asus increased some internal power limits for you. That's a good thing and you should probably use that vbios for more performance. A few C hotter isn't going to destroy your video card.