[Kenton Engel]

Hi Guys,

I'm a bit baffled by my 3D Mark score, given my specs.

Here is my rig:

Intel 8700k OC'd to 5.1 @ 1.4
EVGA 1080Ti HC FTW with +60Mhz GPU clock offset and +550Mhz offset. (3D Mark's reading is 2012Mhz.)
G-SKILLZ 3200 RAM, 32GB
Samsung nVME M.2 250GB (boot drive)

My score hovers around 10,400. I'm not so much concerned about the score itself, but I'm just curious if Precision XOC is not properly applying the overclock? Or, what's the explanation?

Temperatures don't exceed 40C on my GPU (360mm rad in push-pull for the GPU alone), so I don't think temperatures are an issue.

 

[The Pook]

There's like 10 3DMark tests. What one?

If you're just running vanilla FireStrike ... your score is super low. With a lesser CPU at a lesser frequency I'm getting more than double your score.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/30254031?

Go by what GPU-Z/Precision X is telling you your GPU is at, not 3DMark.

 

[bmgjet]

Link to score validation and people can give you more info.

 

[Kenton Engel]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/30373256

There's my Time Spy score. Core clock registered as 2012 in 3D Mark, but 2025 in Precision XOC. My memory is 6054 in PXOC. Max temp was 33.

 

[Kenton Engel]

Here is my PXOC HWM.

Core clock 2025. Memory 6054.

 

[Beagle Box]

NVidia cards don't run at static speeds.
Settings don't always equal actual testing speeds which don't always equal speeds recorded by 3DMark or other benchmarks. Sometimes it's just due to where the various pieces of software perform their Voltage-step rounding.
There is no issue here.
Don't over-think it.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
If this is a 3 fan card you do have to use precision for the fans max them out and use it just for that.
Use msi after burner for oc'ing the card.

Try
Core voltage 85
Power limit 117
Core clock +65
Mem clock +666
Increase memory +25-50 until you get memory spots then tone it down till they disappear
Then jack the core clock up +13 till it gets unstable.

If you really want to use evga's tool
Disable all OSD functions and do not use K-Boost.

 

[HeroofTime]

Your 1080 Ti scored right around what it should be scoring. I don't know what the i7-8700K should be scoring, but it looks to me that all is running is well with your GPU.

 

[JackCY]

What's so unclear? It's pretty straightforward!

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/xfx_radeon_rx_590_fatboy_review,26.html

 

[Kenton Engel]

Hi,
If this is a 3 fan card you do have to use precision for the fans max them out and use it just for that.
Use msi after burner for oc'ing the card.

Try
Core voltage 85
Power limit 117
Core clock +65
Mem clock +666
Increase memory +25-50 until you get memory spots then tone it down till they disappear
Then jack the core clock up +13 till it gets unstable.

If you really want to use evga's tool
Disable all OSD functions and do not use K-Boost.

Card is in a custom liquid loop. I thought of trying AB, so let me give that a shot.

 

[Kenton Engel]

What's so unclear? It's pretty straightforward!

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/xfx_radeon_rx_590_fatboy_review,26.html

Let me be clearer, sorry: there are substantially higher scores in my exact system configuration.

I'm not concerned about the score for vanity. I'm interested in the (potential/hypothetical) technical reasons why, say, someone else with a ~2Ghz core clock and a lesser frequency on the CPU is scoring in the 11-12,000 range.

Perhaps I inelegantly phrased the initial question, hence the confusion. I'm trying to maximize my OC, here.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
CPU clock looks okay for 5.1
GPU might be at it's limits no telling but is the weakest 10663 which is where the bulk of the 3dmark score is based on
My ftw3 will score highest ever 11231 graphic's score total being 10498.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28066409

 

[HeroofTime]

My 1080 Ti's highest score was 10540 points. It's on stock VBIOS with nothing really special about it. 2012MHz core in the 60°C range and 5900MHz memory. To me, that score looked okay but I guess not. Without getting a golden example, I wonder how people can get 11000 points or more.

 

[Kenton Engel]

My 1080 Ti's highest score was 10540 points. It's on stock VBIOS with nothing really special about it. 2012MHz core in the 60°C range and 5900MHz memory. To me, that score looked okay but I guess not. Without getting a golden example, I wonder how people can get 11000 points or more.

You essentially just answered my question.

I wish I could push this card higher, as my max temp was 33C.

I suppose I could install a different BIOS.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Use msi af and use a core clock curve
2038GHz should be basic although curve is annoying as hello to get to work. +66 core clock is pretty close to 2038.

 

[bmgjet]

Hi,

Increase memory +25-50 until you get memory spots then tone it down till they disappear

Thats the wrong way to overclock Vram since with maxwell they put error correction into the color compression part of the memory. So it will clock a long way higher before it shows artifacts. And the harder its hitting the error correction the slow the memory is going to be.
Best way is to run something thats going to load up the memory controller and fill the vram up.
Heaven benchmarks not to bad running it at a high res. Then pause it and feed the vram 50mhz at a time watching the average FPS. Youll see once it starts hitting error correction since fps will go down as you add more mem clock, Then bring clock down 5mhz at a time until you find peak FPS. If you keep pushing it its somewhere around 150mhz over peak performance point where it will finanlly artifact.

My 1080 Ti's highest score was 10540 points. It's on stock VBIOS with nothing really special about it. 2012MHz core in the 60°C range and 5900MHz memory. To me, that score looked okay but I guess not. Without getting a golden example, I wonder how people can get 11000 points or more.

Dont worry about other peoples scores so much. You want to be comparing to your own score to make sures its increasing with your system the same way each test was ran.
Theres a lot of things you can change to boost your 3dmark score.
If your running dual monitors unplugging one will give you extra 200 points.
If your running a high res or high refresh rate, running benchmark on 1080p and 60hz will give you extra 100 points.
Using DVI instead of DP or HDMI gives you 80 points more.
Closing windows exploring in the back ground gives you 50 more points.
Running the benchmark as priority realtime gives you a little more gpu score and a good bit more cpu score.

Do those things I can score 11,200 gpu score.
But running it like I use my PC daily it gets 10,800 points gpu score.

 

[HeroofTime]

@bmgjet Wow. That is insane! That explains a lot of things then. I wasn't too worried about comparing my GPU's scores to other people's, but I definitely always wondered how people got such high scores. I'm sure some people still have golden examples and did some heavy modifications to their GPUs, but if that was the case then I could achieve 11000 points too. Anyways, I do know that I'm running my silicon at its limits and that's all I care about to be honest. My CPU and GPU are overclocked to the brim, and I accept whatever their limits are. Thank you for filling me in on that though.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yes indeed adding more memory clock will eventually decrease scores or artifact which ever comes first decrease

I don't disagree with anything you've posted @bmgjet actually spot on mine was a quick guide :thumb:

 

[Kenton Engel]

Thats the wrong way to overclock Vram since with maxwell they put error correction into the color compression part of the memory. So it will clock a long way higher before it shows artifacts. And the harder its hitting the error correction the slow the memory is going to be.
Best way is to run something thats going to load up the memory controller and fill the vram up.
Heaven benchmarks not to bad running it at a high res. Then pause it and feed the vram 50mhz at a time watching the average FPS. Youll see once it starts hitting error correction since fps will go down as you add more mem clock, Then bring clock down 5mhz at a time until you find peak FPS. If you keep pushing it its somewhere around 150mhz over peak performance point where it will finanlly artifact.



Dont worry about other peoples scores so much. You want to be comparing to your own score to make sures its increasing with your system the same way each test was ran.
Theres a lot of things you can change to boost your 3dmark score.
If your running dual monitors unplugging one will give you extra 200 points.
If your running a high res or high refresh rate, running benchmark on 1080p and 60hz will give you extra 100 points.
Using DVI instead of DP or HDMI gives you 80 points more.
Closing windows exploring in the back ground gives you 50 more points.
Running the benchmark as priority realtime gives you a little more gpu score and a good bit more cpu score.

Do those things I can score 11,200 gpu score.
But running it like I use my PC daily it gets 10,800 points gpu score.

NICE! Going to try all of this.

 

[Kenton Engel]

@bmgjet Wow. That is insane! That explains a lot of things then. I wasn't too worried about comparing my GPU's scores to other people's, but I definitely always wondered how people got such high scores. I'm sure some people still have golden examples and did some heavy modifications to their GPUs, but if that was the case then I could achieve 11000 points too. Anyways, I do know that I'm running my silicon at its limits and that's all I care about to be honest. My CPU and GPU are overclocked to the brim, and I accept whatever their limits are. Thank you for filling me in on that though.

Same here, actually.

I can push my 8700k to 5.2, but it requires a 1.4v VCore and that adds heat - which then activates my fan curve. I'm running a 420mm and 360mm on the CPU loop, specifically so that I never hear the thing. Down-volted to 1.3 and 5.1, my fans are inaudible - something I care much more about.

I was more or less interested in all those little technical tricks. Man, I must say, what an open, helpful, and non-******* community this is. I might stick around!!